Is Derek Jeter top 15 of all time

[InTheDrink]

Obviously could have gone another 5-6 names before even getting to pitchers, but I'll go on the record saying I like Kaline over Bench. Kaline should have won MVP is 55 over Berra IMHO

Agree to disagree on this one. I think you're crazy actually. Bench was BY FAR the best defensive catcher of all time and had very similar offensive numbers to kaline. I'd listen to arguments that bench was top 5-10 all time simply because of his position. Until piazza came along he was the best defensive AND offensive player at his position all time. No one else could say that.

[Chi_archie]

he'd be on the borderline of 15 greatest Yankees ever....

[InTheDrink]

he'd be on the borderline of 15 greatest Yankees ever....

Top 10 position players in order....surely I'll miss a few...

Ruth
gehrig
mantle
berra
jeter
dimaggio
reggie
Arod
Dickey
Mattingly

[greenhippo]

Top 10 position players in order....surely I'll miss a few...

Ruth
gehrig
mantle
berra
jeter
dimaggio
reggie
Arod
Dickey
Mattingly

You can't call me crazy and then put Donny Baseball in top 10 my friend.

Edit: Or is this strictly NYY?

[BigOrange]

Hi might not even be in the top 15 Yankees of all-time!

[greenhippo]

Agree to disagree on this one. I think you're crazy actually. Bench was BY FAR the best defensive catcher of all time and had very similar offensive numbers to kaline. I'd listen to arguments that bench was top 5-10 all time simply because of his position. Until piazza came along he was the best defensive AND offensive player at his position all time. No one else could say that.

Except Berra was better offensively so Bench could never say that.

[nyplayer33]

top 15 player of all time..let's change it..top 25 player of all time

[nyplayer33]

Look at his post season batting average..very very few hit for the same average or close to in posrt season as reg season..he is a money player over a ton of games played

[Br0nxer]

he'd be on the borderline of 15 greatest Yankees ever....

[nyplayer33]

he absolutely is a top 5 yankee of all time..he's batting over 300 careeer avg over 17 seasons..his post season avergae is over 300 over a ton of games..he happens to be loved by so many

[nyplayer33]

over 152 post season gqames..he's batting .307

[Chi_archie]

Ruth, Gehrig, mantle, DiMaggio, rivera, Berra over jeter

[InTheDrink]

Except Berra was better offensively so Bench could never say that.

Well 1) that's not true. Baseball reference has bench rated much higher as an objective measure. And 2) Berra had plenty of games in the outfield so IMO he'd have to be markedly better to be considered a better offensive catcher. Bench didn't get a "day off" like yogi did.

[InTheDrink]

You can't call me crazy and then put Donny Baseball in top 10 my friend.

Edit: Or is this strictly NYY?

Common bro I'm not that silly

And I really can't think of a definitively better Yankee than mattingly to put at 10. Rizzuto? No. Ellie Howard? Maybe but no. Winfield? Maybe. Posada? No. Maris? No. Munson? No. Who am I missing?

[Chi_archie]

earl combs

[CMNoney]

Ruth, Gehrig, mantle, DiMaggio, rivera, Berra over jeter

No way on Rivera and Berra. Other 4 are hard to argue.

[Coming Back!]

First off, you can't compare pitchers to position players. Secondly, it's hard to compare Jeter to other players because of the intangibles he provides. Jeter is also not a power hitter. How do you value RBI's, slugging, and home runs? Jeter is clearly one of the best SS of all time. Lets just leave it at that. Comparing pitchers or power hitters to Jeter doesn't make sense.

[CMNoney]

First off, you can't compare pitchers to position players. Secondly, it's hard to compare Jeter to other players because of the intangibles he provides. Jeter is also not a power hitter. How do you value RBI's, slugging, and home runs? Jeter is clearly one of the best SS of all time. Lets just leave it at that. Comparing pitchers or power hitters to Jeter doesn't make sense.

Don't forget steals. Jeter quitely has swiped 340 bags during his career.

[You mad bro]

First off, you can't compare pitchers to position players. Secondly, it's hard to compare Jeter to other players because of the intangibles he provides. Jeter is also not a power hitter. How do you value RBI's, slugging, and home runs? Jeter is clearly one of the best SS of all time. Lets just leave it at that. Comparing pitchers or power hitters to Jeter doesn't make sense.

by the way idk if u guys know this ...but the MLB helped out the hitters so much in the later years then before

pitching mounds were lowered
fences were brought in
baseballs are being stitched tighter
All 3 of these things help out the batter so much (CANT EVEN NAME THE STEROID ISSUE)


how about this stat

babe ruth pitched for 5 years
joe dimaggio missed 3-4 years of his prime to serve in the armed forces
lou played with broken bones almost his entire career
mantle thought he was going to die at the age of 40 and became an alcoholic and didnt care about his own health


top 4 yankees are these 4 ... then you have to skip a few lines just to put jeter there ...

1 babe ruth
2 mantle
3 dimaggio
4 lou




10 jeter


so far apart cuz you cant even compare players