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  • SBR Lou
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 08-02-07
    • 37863

    #1
    Milwaukee is the best baseball play tonight
    Who else is with me?
  • ryanXL977
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-24-08
    • 20615

    #2
    if by with you, you mean against you, then im with you

    phils is the play
    how often do you get a home dog in the loffs? myers is a bad ass. he beats his wife and throws good games afetr the ASB
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    • Chi_archie
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-22-08
      • 63172

      #3
      what do y'all expect from sabathia today?

      isn't he going on 3 days rest? he sure has thrown a lot of innings and pitches especially of late...

      what are post season numbers. I recall he did pretty good in his cleveland years right?
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      • Brock Landers
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 06-30-08
        • 45359

        #4
        Under 8 is better
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        • ryanXL977
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 02-24-08
          • 20615

          #5
          i love the tribe, but cc was not very good last yr if i recall
          tired out
          phils are abetter team, better pen, at home
          hard not to take home teams in the loffs
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          • johnnymapalo
            SBR MVP
            • 06-14-08
            • 2999

            #6
            I agree guy. -130 ml for CC is a steal. I'm on it..
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            • Chi_archie
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-22-08
              • 63172

              #7
              under might be a play, as earlier today I saw that myers dominated the brew-crew last time he saw them... But I also think that myers has been ragged lately... should have been given some good rest, have to go back and look closely again.

              the phils pen is tough that, that IS for sure
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              • rjt721
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 02-06-07
                • 7929

                #8
                I think it might be the worst.
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                • ryanXL977
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 02-24-08
                  • 20615

                  #9
                  i agree
                  laying on the road is not a winning idea
                  oyu are betting on cc vs the best offense in the nl imo.
                  and myers is fully capable of doing anything cc does
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                  • SBR Lou
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 08-02-07
                    • 37863

                    #10
                    Originally posted by rjt721
                    I think it might be the worst.
                    Well, I'd suggest not fading this in your 128 man bud, because that +6500 would be a sweet payday..

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                    • LT Profits
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-27-06
                      • 90963

                      #11
                      I'm on Phillies +124, and the line move afterwards makes me feel better.
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                      • TPowell
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 02-21-08
                        • 18842

                        #12
                        Brett Myers....... I'm NOT betting on Brett Myers in October, thats for sure. He's given up 14 ER in 8 innings in his last 2 starts. That was at home against Atlanta and on the road at Florida. C.C. is my best bet tonight. He's pitched on 3 days rest in each of his last 3 starts. Philly HAS NOT seen C.C. this year and the Brew Crew faced Myers last month. Admittingly, Myers did shut them down but I'm pretty sure that Myers isn't a big game pitcher and WON'T be able to hold down the Brewers again tonight. Keep in mind that this IS a DO OR DIE game for Milwaukee since they're down 1-0 in the series right now.

                        Milwaukee -116 (Matchbook)
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                        • ryanXL977
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 02-24-08
                          • 20615

                          #13
                          brewers go down tonite
                          take the home dog. it never fails to make money over the course of a season or loffs
                          its not just myers vs CC
                          its the whole team., people forget this
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                          • SBR Lou
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 08-02-07
                            • 37863

                            #14
                            Originally posted by TPowell
                            Brett Myers....... I'm NOT betting on Brett Myers in October, thats for sure. He's given up 14 ER in 8 innings in his last 2 starts. That was at home against Atlanta and on the road at Florida. C.C. is my best bet tonight. He's pitched on 3 days rest in each of his last 3 starts. Philly HAS NOT seen C.C. this year and the Brew Crew faced Myers last month. Admittingly, Myers did shut them down but I'm pretty sure that Myers isn't a big game pitcher and WON'T be able to hold down the Brewers again tonight. Keep in mind that this IS a DO OR DIE game for Milwaukee since they're down 1-0 in the series right now.

                            Milwaukee -116 (Matchbook)
                            The best post so far. Someone did their homework.
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                            • ryanXL977
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 02-24-08
                              • 20615

                              #15
                              why use only his last 2, why not use his last 12
                              picking and choosing only reinforces biases.

                              phils win this game
                              and the nl
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                              • TPowell
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 02-21-08
                                • 18842

                                #16
                                Well, to be honest I didnt feel like going back any further. His last 12 starts? Why not use his SEASON stats LOL? Milwaukee will WANT this game more than Philly will though. Milwaukee knows THIS IS the series tonight. If C.C. loses, who could win for Milwaukee?
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                                • LT Profits
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-27-06
                                  • 90963

                                  #17
                                  Myers has dominated the Brewers all four times he's faced them, including a Complete Game two-hitter a couple of weeks ago.
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                                  • Chi_archie
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-22-08
                                    • 63172

                                    #18
                                    CC being a power lefty with nasty stuff, neutrilizes two big bats in howard and utley and relegates them to average at best hitters and changes the look of that line-up from top to bottom for sure.
                                    ryan, you honestly don't look at a pitcher's recent track record for indications of injury, dead arm, poor mechanics, losing their stuff... i think more then hitters, a pitcher's recent performance means a lot. there is obviously no 1:1 correlation but I beleive there is a strong connection...

                                    at some point a pitcher is gonna turn around a cold streak, or find his command/stuff and go on a hot streak after a cold one... but honestly in august, and septemeber when oswalt was pitching, didn't his last 2-3 outings start to influence how you capped him?
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                                    • TPowell
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 02-21-08
                                      • 18842

                                      #19
                                      LT, outside of this year's shutout that Myers pitched, he hasnt faced them since 2005. He IS 4-0 against the Brewers with a solid ERA though. Trends like that shouldnt be leaned on though IMO
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                                      • ryanXL977
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 02-24-08
                                        • 20615

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by TPowell
                                        Well, to be honest I didnt feel like going back any further. His last 12 starts? Why not use his SEASON stats LOL? Milwaukee will WANT this game more than Philly will though. Milwaukee knows THIS IS the series tonight. If C.C. loses, who could win for Milwaukee?
                                        amigo, they can want it all they want
                                        every team wants everygame
                                        that logic costs people a lot of money
                                        im sure the pats wanetd the superbowl
                                        im sure the spurs wanted to win game 6 vs lal. milwaukee is not good. they cant want it all they want. there aint any value layin on the road vs a beter team with better offense,. defense. pitching and pen

                                        youa re betting solely on cc

                                        gl
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                                        • SBR Lou
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 08-02-07
                                          • 37863

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by ryanXL977
                                          amigo, they can want it all they want
                                          every team wants everygame
                                          that logic costs people a lot of money
                                          im sure the pats wanetd the superbowl
                                          im sure the spurs wanted to win game 6 vs lal. milwaukee is not good. they cant want it all they want. there aint any value layin on the road vs a beter team with better offense,. defense. pitching and pen

                                          youa re betting solely on cc

                                          gl
                                          You'll be seeing a lot of this all game long.

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                                          • maritime
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 10-26-05
                                            • 474

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by ryanXL977
                                            i agree
                                            laying on the road is not a winning idea
                                            oyu are betting on cc vs the best offense in the nl imo.
                                            and myers is fully capable of doing anything cc does
                                            Let's not get carried away now. Team batting avg 2008 season:

                                            1. St. Louis Cardinals .281
                                            2. Chicago Cubs .278
                                            3. Atlanta Braves .270
                                            4. New York Mets .266
                                            5. Los Angeles Dodgers .264
                                            6. Colorado Rockies .263
                                            7. Houston Astros .263
                                            8. San Francisco Giants .262
                                            9. Pittsburgh Pirates .258
                                            10. Philadelphia Phillies .255
                                            11. Florida Marlins .254
                                            12. Milwaukee Brewers .253
                                            13. Arizona Diamondbacks .251
                                            14. Washington Nationals .251
                                            15. San Diego Padres .250
                                            16. Cincinnati Reds .247

                                            They were 3rd for runs scored however.
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                                            • TPowell
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 02-21-08
                                              • 18842

                                              #23
                                              the Superbowl? When did the Superbowl turn into a 5 game series though? C.C. has been lights out and WILL continue to be lights out in AAA (National League). Anybody have any odds on what league C.C. plays in next year?
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                                              • ryanXL977
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 02-24-08
                                                • 20615

                                                #24
                                                not sure who would use team BA to show best offense

                                                runs is of much greater import. rollins had a down year, i think he is better than he played. to me, they are the best offense in the nl
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                                                • Chi_archie
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-22-08
                                                  • 63172

                                                  #25
                                                  BA means nothing... its the runs first and foremost, as they don't tally the hits/abs and get a calculator out at the end of 9 innings... runs scored, and phils put them up in bunches, think HR's and ops
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                                                  • LT Profits
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 10-27-06
                                                    • 90963

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by TPowell
                                                    LT, outside of this year's shutout that Myers pitched, he hasnt faced them since 2005. He IS 4-0 against the Brewers with a solid ERA though. Trends like that shouldnt be leaned on though IMO
                                                    You;re right, so just look at his performance two weeks ago.
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                                                    • Chi_archie
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-22-08
                                                      • 63172

                                                      #27
                                                      and that offense is big, especially when a team pretty much has 6 innings to get to phils starters and then don't have much of a chance of coming from behind when facing lidge, romero, durbin and company
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                                                      • TPowell
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 02-21-08
                                                        • 18842

                                                        #28
                                                        I'm supposed to bet on the performance of one game??? Guys like Myers make their living pitching those regular season games. When it comes to the big games, let the big boys like C.C. handle it. The result of a start 2 weeks ago is important, but it isn't that big of a deal. What about the fact that he's pitched HORRIBLY in his last starts?
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                                                        • LT Profits
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 10-27-06
                                                          • 90963

                                                          #29
                                                          Seems no one else has pointed out the fact that this is CC's fourth straight start on three days rest, and this time he is coming off of a 122-pitch outiing. That would take a toll on anyone.
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                                                          • ryanXL977
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 02-24-08
                                                            • 20615

                                                            #30
                                                            i love CC and i love the tribe but laying solely on a pitcher is a very fast way to lose your money
                                                            im not huge on phils today like i was yesterday, but home dogs pay out all the time

                                                            EX: LVILLE VS KST!!!
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                                                            • Benson17
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 09-24-06
                                                              • 254

                                                              #31
                                                              I love the Brewers, but I'm on Philly +108 tonight.
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                                                              • rjt721
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 02-06-07
                                                                • 7929

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by CrazyL
                                                                You'll be seeing a lot of this all game long.

                                                                Too bad Cleveland didn't see ANY of that in the '07 postseason.
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                                                                • TPowell
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 02-21-08
                                                                  • 18842

                                                                  #33
                                                                  this is the playoffs though, college sports are WAY different. CC's pitched on 3 days rest, three times already. I'm not sure if it's a bad thing or not. Sometimes when you get used to pitching every so many days, it just feels "right". CC can throw for days and I dont think stamina is an issue tonight. He's pitched really well his last 3 starts on 3 days rest so why doubt him now? I think him getting used to throwing on 3 days rest is important here. Not to mention how bad he wants to prove himself now so he can cash in during the off-season. The Brewers looked bad yesterday on offense, but they faced FAR AND AWAY Philly's best pitcher.
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                                                                  • losturmarbles
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 07-01-08
                                                                    • 4604

                                                                    #34
                                                                    i would like to fade cc, but you're not getting a good price
                                                                    +114? forget that

                                                                    cc -116 for value alone
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                                                                    • ryanXL977
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 02-24-08
                                                                      • 20615

                                                                      #35
                                                                      home dogs
                                                                      thats my 02 cents
                                                                      we will see
                                                                      i am not proclaiming phils to be a great bet
                                                                      but i would not do milw here
                                                                      that team sucks
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