Poker pro caught cheating...more names to come.

[Al Masters]

Russ hamilton is in hot water.......don't be to shocked to hear some more big names implicated in the next few days!

http://igamingnews.com/index.cfm?page=artlisting&tid=9787

[reno cool]

Kahnawake Gaming Commission

that thing have any power?

[picantel]

and that Annie Duke and Phil Hellmuth—both UB-sponsored players—had knowledge of Hamilton’s alleged involvement prior to Arem’s revelation.

[reno cool]

poker players cheats? shocking

poker is the lowest form of gambling.


funny that they're lobbying to exempt it from the internet gambling law. Calling it a game of skill and Americas game. how ironic

[gm2022]

and that Annie Duke and Phil Hellmuth—both UB-sponsored players—had knowledge of Hamilton’s alleged involvement prior to Arem’s revelation.

Im not sure how much you follow this, but Russ Hamiltons name was brought up a few months ago. Pokerroad Radio asked him to do an interview and he did, but commented on nothing. His lawyer said not to. That was that. Now this shit, UB, and AB just need to go away in my mind!

[gm2022]

Al, If I remember right wasnt freddie Deeb one of the guys who, had transfered funds online with the cheats from the whole UB thing. Wouldnt be suprised if his name pops up!

Also a link that explains everything for someone who doesnt know whats going on

http://www.pokernewsdaily.com/60-minutes-story-on-ultimate-bet-scandal-may-air-october-26th-442/

[jjgold]

Well Pro Poker players have to cheat, they are the most broke gamblers on earth, 95% go week to week and that means the big names also. You only see the glory side of them but day to day most are bums, crack addicts, drunks and pill addicts.

[MonkeyF0cker]

That's just absolutely false. You obviously don't know many poker pro's...

[Panic]

All in the company you keep. Absolute poker was the first site busted with a major cheating scandal. Absolute Poker and Ultimate Bet have joined forces recently to launch Cereus. Now Ultimate Bet is involved in a cheating scandal. It was only a matter of time.

[Poker_Beast]

Hope they both go under!

Hate fukkin cheaters

[mmike032]

How exactly were they cheating? some kind of colusion sceme or what?

I played on Pokerroom for a while a few years ago but stopped b/c of the unbelievable shit that happens in just about every hand. Random card generators my ass

[Al Masters]

Al, If I remember right wasnt freddie Deeb one of the guys who, had transfered funds online with the cheats from the whole UB thing. Wouldnt be suprised if his name pops up!

Also a link that explains everything for someone who doesnt know whats going on

http://www.pokernewsdaily.com/60-min...ober-26th-442/

yes,rumor has it Deeb is one of the players looking at future problems.

[Shark79]

whowever wins on the SBR Poker tourneys are cheaters!

[HAPPY BOY]

Hope they both go under!

Hate fukkin cheaters

amen brother

[Brady2Moss]

I always knew online poker was rigged, but nobody believed me.

[Brady2Moss]

People would always say, "why would they rig it, they make tons of money already"

I would then say "because they are greedy degenerate mofo's"

[WileOut]

How exactly were they cheating? some kind of colusion sceme or what?

I played on Pokerroom for a while a few years ago but stopped b/c of the unbelievable shit that happens in just about every hand. Random card generators my ass

YES PokerRoom. OMFG. I played there. I played in the $50 sit and goes. I went 12 games in a row where I lost all my chips against 1 other player where I had them totally dominated. I also won a $5200 seat at the Poker Classic through them though too. It was after I won the seat that the extreme BS stuff started happening.

It would completely shock me to learn that there is 1 poker site that doesn't cheat rampantly.

[bettilimbroke999]

How exactly were they cheating? some kind of colusion sceme or what?

I played on Pokerroom for a while a few years ago but stopped b/c of the unbelievable shit that happens in just about every hand. Random card generators my ass

No, collusion is unavoidable in high stakes games online, which is reason enough not to play online but these players had connections to former UB employees and were able to actually view all the other players hole cards, very scary, they are believed to have stolen over 10 million dollars, so far UB has refunded 6.1 million

[treece]

I remember Annie's bf won the biggest tourney ever on UB. 100% he cheated, I told everyone it was rigged in his favor and people were so gullible.

[saddestbison]

poker players cheats? shocking

poker is the lowest form of gambling.


funny that they're lobbying to exempt it from the internet gambling law. Calling it a game of skill and Americas game. how ironic

how is it the lowest forum of gambling?

You actually have a say in the outcome. Stupid people playing a game where you have a chance to control the outcome. Get real

[gm2022]

I remember Annie's bf won the biggest tourney ever on UB. 100% he cheated, I told everyone it was rigged in his favor and people were so gullible.

I remember when the guys who first complained there was a problem on AP. He was heads up with a superuser. The final hand was won/called with a 10 high. DUMB ass super users!

[saddestbison]

Well Pro Poker players have to cheat, they are the most broke gamblers on earth, 95% go week to week and that means the big names also. You only see the glory side of them but day to day most are bums, crack addicts, drunks and pill addicts.

MOST are crack addicts?

LOL

have you ever seen poker pros? They're mostly fat asses

I'd love to see a crack addict at a table

[Al Masters]

Well Pro Poker players have to cheat, they are the most broke gamblers on earth, 95% go week to week and that means the big names also. You only see the glory side of them but day to day most are bums, crack addicts, drunks and pill addicts.

I don't know why i'm even responding to this very amateur comment.

JJ .....you said the exact same thing about horse players,a few months back.

not sure whats more ridiculous,your take on poker players.or your take on how to play goalie.

This is a comment that i would expect to hear from Dac, not a seasoned gambler like yourself.

[gm2022]

yes,rumor has it Deeb is one of the players looking at future problems.

Im curious who else will be in hot water

[Andrewsurf]

ugh, they could actually see everyone's hole cards, what the hell.

guess i'll just have to stick to driving to my local casino an hour away to get taken out by sharks hired by the place

[treece]

I'd love to see a crack addict at a table

Layne Flack or Mike Matusow.

[Al Masters]

ugh, they could actually see everyone's hole cards, what the hell.

guess i'll just have to stick to driving to my local casino an hour away to get taken out by sharks hired by the place

Any person hired by a casino to play,shark or not is called a proposition player,they usually get paid someting like $12 an hour to play and are playing with there own bankrolls.

This situation can be exploited if you know for sure who the props are.....they are usually extremely tight players.

[gm2022]

Any person hired by a casino to play,shark or not is called a proposition player,they usually get paid someting like $12 an hour to play and are playing with there own bankrolls.

This situation can be exploited if you know for sure who the props are.....they are usually extremely tight players.

Its alot more rare to find prop jobs compared to 10 years ago!

[Al Masters]

Im curious who else will be in hot water

Many are waiting for the final report which should tell all,but with the Kahnawake gaming Commision who the f.u.c.k. really knows.

[Al Masters]

Kahnawake Gaming Commission

that thing have any power?

Yes they do have some power,however luckily for all these guys its the indians making the report not Congress.

Imagine Hamilton and Hellmuth,deeb,duke,etc, all in front of Congress,.......now lets see there bluffing skills, and poker faces.

[robzilla]

there has been cheating at poker, since the beginning of poker. No need to cry about it. If aint cheating, you aint trying.

[Al Masters]

Its alot more rare to find prop jobs compared to 10 years ago!

Very rare these days.....back in the day it was to keep games going,soon as a game filled up with 1 on the waiting list props had to give there seat up.

[gm2022]

Very rare these days.....back in the day it was to keep games going,soon as a game filled up with 1 on the waiting list props had to give there seat up.

I only know of one place myself that has them, I know san Pablo use to and they paid based on what limits u played. I think if u played like 20/40 limit u got 20 bucks an hour!

[gm2022]

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[reno cool]

People would always say, "why would they rig it, they make tons of money already"

I would then say "because they are greedy degenerate mofo's"

This is the bottom line.

These poker sites have a license to print money. But its not enough for them. aka Wall Street

I believe its Jesse The Body who said:" Win if you can, lose if you must but always cheat".