Unbelievable - How does Fox News do it ?

**Shaudius** · 03-24-12, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by ** PICKS

The only mistake bush made with iraq was letting those idiot inspectors from the UN go in first which gave iraqs time to move the weapons out, bush was trying to reach out to the left by letting the UN do thier thing but essentially it cost us the chance to catch the iraqis. I mean when the UN is teling them what sites they are visiting on what days months in advance it would be pretty easy to hide the weapons in neighboring countries, and they did find a bunch of WMDs anyway just not the full arsenal that is sitting somewhere in a neighboring country over there.

Exactly which neighboring countries would Iraq have been hiding those weapons in? Iran? Which they were at war with for much of the 1980s, Kuwait who they invaded in the 90s? Turkey which is a member of NATO? Syria? Possibly but what evidence do you have of this actually occurring? Did they give these supposed WMDs that they had to some sort of terrorist group? If so why have they not been used? What evidence do you actually have of your supposition that the weapons were moved?

As far as the weapons that were found, all of them appeared to have been of pre-Gulf War manufacture, and the whole point was that Iraq was supposedly still producing WMDs in violation of UN resolution. Show me any evidence that you have that Iraq still had a functioning WMD program at the time of the Iraq War and I will concede my statement, but I have seen no evidence of a functioning WMD program be provided to date.

**greenhippo** · 03-24-12, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by ehp6737

The Daily Show is definitely geared more towards a Liberal audience, but their is no way on Earth that The Daily Show, or any other show for that matter, can possibly be more biased then the garbage spewed out at Fox. Jon Stewart will pick on Democrats as well. Yes he attacks Republicans more, but it's not that he's totally biased, it's that the Republicans are complete lunatics and create so much more comedic material based on their words, actions, and contradictions.

It's the same crap they say about Bill Maher, but yet every week he has on atleast one Republican, even the likes of the poster child for Right Wing extremism, Ann Coulter and former RNC head Herman Cain. But yet he's blindly against Republicans? No, he's a comedian and 90% of comedic material is supplied my Republicans these days. It's not brain surgery.

Besides, it doesn't matter what show is "better", I was just asking about the ratings. The two are by no means mutually exclusive. The best shows on TV never get the best ratings. Go look at the top 10 ratings. It's pretty much crap like American Idol. You wont ever find Mad Men or other great shows in a top 10.

don't remember the exact numbers, but the early years of 30 Rock when that show was drop dead funny they had abysmal ratings, but were still winnings Emmys for best comedy. Ratings = don't mean shit.

**MC PICKS** · 03-24-12, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by marcojuiceman

So i guess Obama should use that line when we invade Iran

I have no problem with obama invading iran, he has put our national security at risk by sitting around for the last 3 years and letting them get closer to nuclear capability, but like i said in my initial post that obama is in constant campaign mode and that is why he doesnt want to invade iran because his tree hugging peacenicks will abandon him at the polls in november if he does the right thing and goes after a dictator, even though he already waged war in egypt but did it like a pussy and let the french run the show, anybody who thinks this guy is a true american is a real fukking dope.

**onlooker** · 03-24-12, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by mnpickle

Have you seen the hotties on Foxnews? The only reason I'm watching it... On mute...

There is a reason they put the girl with sexy legs on the end.

**MC PICKS** · 03-24-12, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by Shaudius

Exactly which neighboring countries would Iraq have been hiding those weapons in? Iran? Which they were at war with for much of the 1980s, Kuwait who they invaded in the 90s? Turkey which is a member of NATO? Syria? Possibly but what evidence do you have of this actually occurring? Did they give these supposed WMDs that they had to some sort of terrorist group? If so why have they not been used? What evidence do you actually have of your supposition that the weapons were moved?

As far as the weapons that were found, all of them appeared to have been of pre-Gulf War manufacture, and the whole point was that Iraq was supposedly still producing WMDs in violation of UN resolution. Show me any evidence that you have that Iraq still had a functioning WMD program at the time of the Iraq War and I will concede my statement, but I have seen no evidence of a functioning WMD program be provided to date.

Your another one with your head up your ass, go look at a map and maybe youll figure out where there at, that will be your lesson for the day on your quest to not be such a dumbfukk.

**MC PICKS** · 03-24-12, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by onlooker

There is a reason they put the girl with sexy legs on the end.

Best new show on cable news, and its on fox so its not really a surprise, and beckel is the rock star of that show and hes the liberal which shows how fair and balanbced i am, when beckels not on the show i wont even watch, but kimberly and andrea are nice to look at for sure, would love to be stuck in the middle of a guilfoyle/tantaros sandwich, lol.

**Shaudius** · 03-24-12, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by ** PICKS

Your another one with your head up your ass, go look at a map and maybe youll figure out where there at, that will be your lesson for the day on your quest to not be such a dumbfukk.

The only country I didn't list that borders Iraq is Jordan, so you think the WMDs are in Jordan? Again, what evidence do you have of this? Also, its "you're" not "your". also its "they're" not "there". Why exactly would I look for insight regarding things from someone who can't even tell the difference between "your" and "you're" and "there" and "they're". But you'll probably just respond with some sort of stupid comment with no basis in reality that you can't support, so I don't know why I even bother.

**MC PICKS** · 03-24-12, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by Shaudius

The only country I didn't list that borders Iraq is Jordan, so you think the WMDs are in Jordan? Again, what evidence do you have of this? Also, its "you're" not "your". also its "they're" not "there". Why exactly would I look for insight regarding things from someone who can't even tell the difference between "your" and "you're" and "there" and "they're". But you'll probably just respond with some sort of stupid comment with no basis in reality that you can't support, so I don't know why I even bother.

Sorry i didnt know i was writing a fukking english paper, when people can only correct punctuation its a sign that there are buried in the arguement, thanks for admitting im WRITE, lol. And good job going and looking at a map like i told you to do, that would kind of make you my bitch right? Your head is so far up your ass you got dingleberries stuck in your teeth.

**Gee** · 03-24-12, 03:12 PM

They do it by appealing to the stupidest and lowest common denominator.

**DwightShrute** · 03-24-12, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by King Mayan

Ahh. Again with the steroids. My dick is hard again. "down boy".

And a guy that post kindergarten photoshops, copy and paste articles from propaganda outlets, should'nt be talking about IQ's.

Now run along scared f\*g, blame obama for your shitty life.

what a loser

**swordsandtequila** · 03-24-12, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by ** PICKS

Sorry i didnt know i was writing a fukking english paper, when people can only correct punctuation its a sign that there are buried in the arguement, thanks for admitting im WRITE, lol. And good job going and looking at a map like i told you to do, that would kind of make you my bitch right? Your head is so far up your ass you got dingleberries stuck in your teeth.

Shaudius, take this as a lesson. You can't argue with a dumbass; you'll just give yourself a headache. And a sign of being "buried"? in an argument is when you answer a question with a question. And really, being one of 11 million people in a country of 310+ million (3.5%), your opinion really doesn't mean much. Turn off the tv and read a "fukking" book.

**Shaudius** · 03-24-12, 03:58 PM

Originally posted by ** PICKS

Sorry i didnt know i was writing a fukking english paper, when people can only correct punctuation its a sign that there are buried in the arguement, thanks for admitting im WRITE, lol. And good job going and looking at a map like i told you to do, that would kind of make you my bitch right? Your head is so far up your ass you got dingleberries stuck in your teeth.

I didn't just attack your grammatical skills, I also attacked the substance of your argument. The only reason I attacked your grammatical skills in the first place is because rather than answer my question about what facts you have to back up your assertion you told me to look at a map, attacking my geographical skills, apparently.

I do not believe I am buried in this argument because you haven't even made a sound argument, all you've said is basically, "Iraq moved the weapons that why they weren't found". You have provided no evidence to back up your claim. When someone makes a sound argument they need to provide evidence to back up their claim otherwise anyone could claim anything and we would all just have to take it as true. This would be akin to me saying that IU beat UK yesterday, it is a claim to be sure, but without proof to back it up, it is meaningless. Often times we take claims like the IU beat UK as given because the underlying evidence is readily available. Such is not the case in your case, and you have failed to provide evidence that your claim is true, so no, I'm not buried in any argument.

You still haven't answered my charge though. Are you saying that Iraq moved the weapons to Jordan? If so what is your evidence to back up this belief. If there was compelling evidence to this fact, why hasn't there been any move to pressure the Jordanians to find these missing WMDs?

**Andy117** · 03-24-12, 04:21 PM

Originally posted by ** PICKS

im WRITE

Did you do that on purpose?

**HenryHill** · 03-24-12, 04:30 PM

MSNBC is a liberal/socialist propaganda tool/machine. Literally. MSNBC is 10X more liberal than FNC is conservative...no doubt...I mean have you guys even watched/listend to the dyke Rachel Maddow, the leftist psychopath Ed Shultz, for years Keith Olbermann spewed the most ridiculous liberal nonsense...Chris Matthews used to be somewhat fair but in recent years has become just as if not more crazy than the people I just listed...I mean its the craziest shyte ever

Yes FNC def slants to the right, but they at least have liberals on (Beckel, Geraldo, Colmes, Juan Williams, Mitch Daniels, and many others) all the time. People just hate on FNC bc they are the ONE news organization that doesn't lean heavily to the left...in todays world if you are a media organization and you don't support/help push the progressive agenda, you must be crazy republican crooks, and thats why FNC drives people nuts. The fact that they get the most viewers, highest ratings, and make the most money further furiates the left and delights the right

**Shaudius** · 03-24-12, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by HenryHill

Yes FNC def slants to the right, but they at least have liberals on (Beckel, Geraldo, Colmes, Juan Williams, Mitch Daniels, and many others)

The Republican governor of Indiana is a liberal?

**Andy117** · 03-24-12, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by HenryHill

Yes FNC def slants to the right, but they at least have liberals on (Beckel, Geraldo, Colmes, Juan Williams, Mitch Daniels, and many others) all the time. People just hate on FNC bc they are the ONE news organization that doesn't lean heavily to the left...in todays world if you are a media organization and you don't support/help push the progressive agenda, you must be crazy republican crooks, and thats why FNC drives people nuts. The fact that they get the most viewers, highest ratings, and make the most money further furiates the left and delights the right

Mitch Daniels is a liberal?

**swordsandtequila** · 03-24-12, 04:39 PM

As I stated above, arguing with idiots...

**BOA12** · 03-25-12, 08:19 AM

I never mind be second best when I'm around the best and your response is the Best Of All and would nominate you for a BkofAma award and I hope you never change unleess you want to.

**BOA12** · 03-25-12, 08:37 AM

Being open minded is a mindset being close minded is lifestyle choice and I hope you children have a choice to think and have their own opinion or is it your either with us or against us and we refuse to give you any information to form an opinion of your own

**mikemca** · 03-25-12, 09:03 AM

Saturday and Sunday mornings Up w/ Chris Hayes on msnbc is my favorite news program.They actually discuss the weeks topics from several different viewpoints rather than just reiterating the company line as 99% of the fox news shows do.Fox is for people that can't think for themselves so they all just grab hold of the same opinion to create the illusion that this many people can't be wrong.

**muldoon** · 03-25-12, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by Sam Odom

Unbelievable - How does Fox News do it ? TOP 6 cable shows - some guy named Baier beats (has 2x the viewers) Chris Matthews

<tt>CABLE NEWS
THURS., MARCH 23, 2012

FOXNEWS O'REILLY 2,733,000
FOXNEWS HANNITY 2,079,000
</tt>

The lowest rated news network (CBS) doubles O'Reilly when it comes to people watching. NBC nightly news has 350% more viewers than the highest rated Fox News show.

Fox dominates the niche market (Cable news) - but in real news numbers, you might as well be bragging that you built the tallest building in Iowa.

**Sam Odom** · 03-25-12, 10:27 AM

muldoon , apples & watermelons

**Big Bear** · 03-25-12, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by Shaudius

Its easy to get viewers when you feed directly into people's misplaced hate and vitriol. Populist dictators have been doing it for decades. Why take responsibility for your own problems when you have talking heads telling you your situation isn't your fault but is instead the fault of some "other" group. Fox News has been doing this a lot harder and longer than MSNBC. MSNBC was way late to the game and still doesn't do it nearly as hard as Fox(or have nearly the uneducated audience that is most susceptible to this kind of talk and manipulation).

great post. Fox News makes me sick. I'm not a democrat either but it makes sick watching fox news and it really turns me off to politics.

**Emily_Haines** · 03-25-12, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by Shaudius

Its easy to get viewers when you feed directly into people's misplaced hate and vitriol. Populist dictators have been doing it for decades. Why take responsibility for your own problems when you have talking heads telling you your situation isn't your fault but is instead the fault of some "other" group. Fox News has been doing this a lot harder and longer than MSNBC. MSNBC was way late to the game and still doesn't do it nearly as hard as Fox(or have nearly the uneducated audience that is most susceptible to this kind of talk and manipulation).

Exactly, take this fuk stick **_Picks for example. They got him all worked up to attack Iran even though they never did anything to us. Easy to manipulate the uneducated trailer trash in our southern states.

**tino1317** · 03-25-12, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by HenryHill

Fox News is the most watched news channel because they are the only ones who give it to you straight and present both sides of the argument. You simply can't get a fair interpretation of the news from MSNBC bc it is nothing but liberal socialists spewing their retarded pipe dream views.

FNC gets the highest ratings bc they are the best and most honest. It's pretty straightforward actually.

I honestly cant tell if trolling.

**swordsandtequila** · 03-25-12, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by tino1317

I honestly cant tell if trolling.

You won't be hearing from him any time soon. Prematurely ran his trap and called people out in the Louisville/Florida game yesterday. Trash talking to the extreme, then went Amelia Earhart when Louisville came back and won. Douche to the nth degree. Every thread he starts turns into a Jerry Springer episode. Entertaining in a low rent sort of way.

**Snowball** · 03-25-12, 12:48 PM

All US corporate broadcast news services are Pentagon and CIA controlled.
There are no substantial differences.
Republicans and Democrats are two sides of the same piece of paper.
That's how they F us

**MC PICKS** · 03-25-12, 12:54 PM

Originally posted by Emily_Haines

Exactly, take this fuk stick **_Picks for example. They got him all worked up to attack Iran even though they never did anything to us. Easy to manipulate the uneducated trailer trash in our southern states.

I live in jersey you unemployed deadbeat fukk, get your facts straight twat or whatever you are, iraq was necessary, we are safer today because of iraq. Get a clue, get a job, get off welfare you scumsucking leech.

**Emily_Haines** · 03-25-12, 01:10 PM

Originally posted by ** PICKS

I live in jersey you unemployed deadbeat fukk, get your facts straight twat or whatever you are, iraq was necessary, we are safer today because of iraq. Get a clue, get a job, get off welfare you scumsucking leech.

I wonder how necessary you would think it was if turds like you were made to pay for the war costs up front instead of just put on the CC. And no you uneducated moron Iraq was not necessary because they were not a threat to us despite what made up shit FOX news tells you.

**MC PICKS** · 03-25-12, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by Emily_Haines

I wonder how necessary you would think it was if turds like you were made to pay for the war costs up front instead of just put on the CC. And no you uneducated moron Iraq was not necessary because they were not a threat to us despite what made up shit FOX news tells you.

Iraq was paid for you moron, clinton gutted ourt military defense budget so much that we had the money to pay for it dummy. The iraq was has cost us jack shit compared to all the useless shit obama has wasted money on. Im done arguing with you liberal assfukks cause you people only know how to do one thing, collect a paycheck you didnt earn and instead just have one given to you, now go shut down your laptop deadbeat cause im tired of paying for your bandwith.

**Shaudius** · 03-25-12, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by ** PICKS

I live in jersey you unemployed deadbeat fukk, get your facts straight twat or whatever you are, iraq was necessary, we are safer today because of iraq. Get a clue, get a job, get off welfare you scumsucking leech.

I'm still waiting for a reply about how you know the WMDs are in Jordan. And if they were moved to Jordan before the invasion as you seem to be asserting, why was the invasion necessary(or are you making the argument they were moved sometime after)?

I'm not sure why I even bother, you obviously have no clue because you think the Iraq War was paid for.

**MC PICKS** · 03-25-12, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by Shaudius

I'm still waiting for a reply about how you know the WMDs are in Jordan. And if they were moved to Jordan before the invasion as you seem to be asserting, why was the invasion necessary(or are you making the argument they were moved sometime after)?

I'm not sure why I even bother, you obviously have no clue because you think the Iraq War was paid for.

I never said they were in jordan, you did, like i told emily kunnt, im thru arguing with you idiot liberals who are completely clueless on the ways of the world.

**Shaudius** · 03-25-12, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by ** PICKS

I never said they were in jordan, you did, like i told emily kunnt, im thru arguing with you idiot liberals who are completely clueless on the ways of the world.

I am trying really hard to answer this without insulting you, but you are not making it easy. I listed four countries that border Iraq where the weapons could have been moved. Rather than respond with which country you thought they were in and why you told me, "Your another one with your head up your ass, go look at a map and maybe youll figure out where there at" to which I replied the only country I didn't list is Jordan, you further responded, "And good job going and looking at a map like i told you to do, that would kind of make you my bitch right?". So is your assertion that the weapons are in one of those four countries I initially listed. If so then why the **** would you say that I have my head up my ass and to look at a map and that I'm your bitch for listing the fifth country that borders Iraq unless you thought that the WMDs were in that fifth country, it was clearly implied by the way you answering the post. Should I add you to I hope you don't breed list that is currently headed up by Brentcrude?

So I ask again, where were these supposed WMDs moved and why do you think they were moved there, or are you going to continue to dodge the answer to this simple question that follows from an idiotic assertion you made earlier in this thread.

**golfrulz** · 03-25-12, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by ** PICKS

Iraq was paid for you moron, clinton gutted ourt military defense budget so much that we had the money to pay for it dummy. The iraq was has cost us jack shit compared to all the useless shit obama has wasted money on. Im done arguing with you liberal assfukks cause you people only know how to do one thing, collect a paycheck you didnt earn and instead just have one given to you, now go shut down your laptop deadbeat cause im tired of paying for your bandwith.

**Andy117** · 03-25-12, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by ** PICKS

Iraq was paid for you moron, clinton gutted ourt military defense budget so much that we had the money to pay for it dummy. The iraq was has cost us jack shit compared to all the useless shit obama has wasted money on. Im done arguing with you liberal assfukks cause you people only know how to do one thing, collect a paycheck you didnt earn and instead just have one given to you, now go shut down your laptop deadbeat cause im tired of paying for your bandwith.

How was Iraq paid for?