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  • losturmarbles
    SBR MVP
    • 07-01-08
    • 4604

    #36
    Originally posted by Mudcat
    This is all so weird anyway. Why would you even be thinking about what anyone else does?
    ...
    exactly. so why do we need to have the players picks available to see?
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    • JerseyShop101
      Restricted User
      • 09-04-08
      • 2704

      #37
      I still think its a good idea as some bettors want to play the consensus picks of the leaders at their sportsbook moreso than just for this contest. Just like in the Hilton contest. Why pay for picks when they can get the top leaders picks for free.
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      • ldrapeau
        SBR Hustler
        • 09-02-08
        • 68

        #38
        Originally posted by SBR Contests
        Gentlemen,

        Slated for next week's updates to SBR Contests' Beat The Prick interface is a feature whereby "This Week's Player Picks" and "This Week's BTP Consensus" reporting will remain locked until a contestant has actually submitted his picks. Once a player has submitted his picks, those reports will once again be viewable.

        While we realize that it is impossible to please everyone all the time, we'll do our best to please MOST of the people MOST of the time.
        First of all, I'd like to thanks once again the organizers for this great contest, with a very probable 5K a week payout (keep up the good work Prick!) to be split between an average of about 65 contestants is extremely good, so what ever the rules are I will be happy to adhere to them without any complaints.

        The danger with the formula your are proposing is that players can get to know each other and a group could have a low player "sacrifice" his picks to get access to all the other picks and report to his friends. I really think that the option of allowing only one single pick with the same four teams and the same best bet would be an option that would keep most players happy and offer a more "spectacular" contest, leaders would come out early, but we could not pick exactly the same games as them.

        You could also ask the IT guys to check how many times in the past you had at least two contestants with exactly the same picks (same 4 sides and same best bet) , I would be surprised that this even happened once.

        Thanks again for the great contest, Good Day, LD
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        • Dark Horse
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 12-14-05
          • 13764

          #39
          Originally posted by ldrapeau
          I really think that the option of allowing only one single pick with the same four teams and the same best bet would be an option that would keep most players happy and offer a more "spectacular" contest, leaders would come out early, but we could not pick exactly the same games as them.


          Un-real

          And it only took you twentysome posts.
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          • Mudcat
            Restricted User
            • 07-21-05
            • 9287

            #40
            Originally posted by ldrapeau
            I really think that the option of allowing only one single pick with the same four teams and the same best bet would be an option that would keep most players happy and offer a more "spectacular" contest, leaders would come out early, but we could not pick exactly the same games as them.
            That seems both convoluted and ineffective to me.

            I can't have the picks I want if some other (obviously very bright ) player has already made them? I don't like that.

            Meanwhile it only touches on the concerns being expressed about pick-copying in the most minor way. So players can copy three picks from someone, or all 4 and switch the Best Bet, or take a mix of Best Bets from the top players. I would not exactly call that "problem solved." If players really are doing that - (which I find hard to fathom but I suppose they are) - then the effect of a lot of people having the same general picks and diluting the prize pool when those picks have a good week is still there.

            The more I think about it, the more I feel that the best solution is to have a definite cut-off to enter picks - like noon on Saturday or whatever it has been in previous years - and only publicize picks after that. If coat-tailers then want to bet on other people's picks, they can take the info to their sportsbooks and go to town.
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            • ldrapeau
              SBR Hustler
              • 09-02-08
              • 68

              #41
              I respect all your opinions, and yes they do make sense, but I do think the if a person is good enough to pick 4 specific teams and select the best bet on the one he believes has the best chance of winning. It's fair to him, since he was the first one to put it in to let him and only him have this selection. This would force the players to do their homework and post as soon as possible. Good luck to all, LD
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              • Dark Horse
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 12-14-05
                • 13764

                #42
                SBR made a reasonable adjustment to the problem expressed here. For a 'pure' contest it would have been better if picks were not visible at all, as originally intended, but that was changed ... at the request of players. What are you going to do?
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                • Dark Horse
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 12-14-05
                  • 13764

                  #43
                  Originally posted by ldrapeau
                  I respect all your opinions, and yes they do make sense, but I do think the if a person is good enough to pick 4 specific teams and select the best bet on the one he believes has the best chance of winning. It's fair to him, since he was the first one to put it in to let him and only him have this selection. This would force the players to do their homework and post as soon as possible. Good luck to all, LD
                  This is total BS. You obviously don't understand the difficulties involved in trying to pick a 4-team parlay.
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                  • Dark Horse
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-14-05
                    • 13764

                    #44
                    Originally posted by ldrapeau
                    I respect all your opinions, and yes they do make sense, but I do think the if a person is good enough to pick 4 specific teams and select the best bet on the one he believes has the best chance of winning. It's fair to him, since he was the first one to put it in to let him and only him have this selection. This would force the players to do their homework and post as soon as possible. Good luck to all, LD
                    This is total BS. You obviously don't understand the difficulty involved in trying to put together a 4-team parlay.
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                    • ldrapeau
                      SBR Hustler
                      • 09-02-08
                      • 68

                      #45
                      Sorry Dark Horse, but what's the problem? You put together your 4 team parlay, you put it in as soon as the contest opens, and at least your sure that no one else will be able to select the same teams with the same best bet as you. If I'm missing something let me know what it clearly is, but saying "This is total BS" is not to constructive.
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                      • alta
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-08-06
                        • 1457

                        #46
                        Originally posted by SBR Contests
                        Gentlemen,

                        Slated for next week's updates to SBR Contests' Beat The Prick interface is a feature whereby "This Week's Player Picks" and "This Week's BTP Consensus" reporting will remain locked until a contestant has actually submitted his picks. Once a player has submitted his picks, those reports will once again be viewable.

                        While we realize that it is impossible to please everyone all the time, we'll do our best to please MOST of the people MOST of the time.
                        Excellent, decision.
                        I really enjoy the format of this years contest, versus the previous two years.
                        However, to make it a fool-proof capping contest, it could be taken one step further. No contestants pick on a particular game should be revealed for other contestants to see, until that particular game has started. This will alleviate the buddy system of circumventing the system so one buddy gets a look at other contestants picks. As much as I like sharing information, a contest format is not the proper forum to potentially dilute contestants potential share of the weekly prize pot.
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                        • pats3peat
                          SBR MVP
                          • 10-23-05
                          • 1163

                          #47
                          applaud the decision
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                          • LVHerbie
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 09-15-05
                            • 6344

                            #48
                            Originally posted by SBR Contests
                            Gentlemen,

                            Slated for next week's updates to SBR Contests' Beat The Prick interface is a feature whereby "This Week's Player Picks" and "This Week's BTP Consensus" reporting will remain locked until a contestant has actually submitted his picks. Once a player has submitted his picks, those reports will once again be viewable.

                            While we realize that it is impossible to please everyone all the time, we'll do our best to please MOST of the people MOST of the time.
                            Wouldn't be hard to get around this if one was determined but seems like a decent compromise...
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                            • 20Four7
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 04-08-07
                              • 6703

                              #49
                              How long is it taking to get accounts credited? My week 2 winnings haven't been credited to my laspalmas account yet. I know last year I had a cheque in a week. Not concerned just wondering. I know it took a week to get the bonus credited.
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                              • losturmarbles
                                SBR MVP
                                • 07-01-08
                                • 4604

                                #50
                                Originally posted by 20Four7
                                How long is it taking to get accounts credited? My week 2 winnings haven't been credited to my laspalmas account yet. I know last year I had a cheque in a week. Not concerned just wondering. I know it took a week to get the bonus credited.
                                i think its after week 7 and at the end of the season when the money gets credited to your sportsbook.

                                go back and read the contest rules
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                                • HAPPY BOY
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 08-10-05
                                  • 7109

                                  #51
                                  All i know is i'm getting paid some booty this week 3-1
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                                  • pats3peat
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 10-23-05
                                    • 1163

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by HAPPY BOY
                                    All i know is i'm getting paid some booty this week 3-1
                                    3-1 here too, +3 pts
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                                    • BobHarvey
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 07-08-08
                                      • 3987

                                      #53
                                      Rookie question. Can a guy jump in after say, four weeks into the season and compete for at least for weekly prizes?
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                                      • pats3peat
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 10-23-05
                                        • 1163

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by BobHarvey
                                        Rookie question. Can a guy jump in after say, four weeks into the season and compete for at least for weekly prizes?
                                        prob can join up til week 7 Bharv, but we dont want more competition
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