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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    Black Bookmakers
    They are the toughest sons of a bitches you will ever meet if you owe them money
    They use extreme pressure tactics and intimidation
    They pay ok
    Lines generic, they accept lottery bets also
    More located in Cities

    Don't fool with these guys unless your highly experienced in the local scene
  • MoneyLineDawg
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-01-09
    • 13253

    #2
    Are you betting Cleveland for 800 with one of these?
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    • King Mayan
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 09-22-10
      • 21326

      #3
      My local is a Mexican cowboy.

      I would feel sorry for the fukk that doesn't pay him..
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      • cp390hdog
        Restricted User
        • 01-17-12
        • 232

        #4
        JJ have you ever been to the Dominican cash shops in Newark?
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        • flyingillini
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 12-06-06
          • 41219

          #5
          JJ, not sure about this one... If you don't pay a bookmaker in Cote St Luc your days are numbered.
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          • Deuce
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 01-12-08
            • 29843

            #6
            Mine is black. Eugene Titus.
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            • Grits n' Gravy
              Restricted User
              • 06-10-10
              • 13024

              #7
              jj, not all are like that. I treated it like a real business. Never stiffed a winner and right from the start someone tried to skate on a big tab. He paid and an example was set. Never had a problem after that getting paid on Tues. Operation got too big so I had 4 different books going to keep the numbers straight. The beauty was nobody knew they were all mine for years until some gangster wannabes from LA area came to town and started shaking down other guys for their businesses. When they approached my people they went back to LA in worse condition than they arrived. Business.
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              • Grits n' Gravy
                Restricted User
                • 06-10-10
                • 13024

                #8
                Originally posted by King Mayan
                My local is a Mexican cowboy.

                I would feel sorry for the fukk that doesn't pay him..
                The problem with doing book business with Mexicans is the likelihood of them being involved deep in drugs and guns and you end up as part of an investigation you otherwise wouldn't have been in.
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                • Smoke
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 10-09-09
                  • 48111

                  #9
                  one of my locals is asian

                  I always make sure to pay on time
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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388179

                    #10
                    Originally posted by cp390hdog
                    JJ have you ever been to the Dominican cash shops in Newark?
                    No where are they?

                    Is it cash bets?
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                    • cp390hdog
                      Restricted User
                      • 01-17-12
                      • 232

                      #11
                      Originally posted by jjgold
                      No where are they?

                      Is it cash bets?
                      cash bets...they do it on the computer and print you a ticket....solid as can be...
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                      • Matches Malone
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 10-28-10
                        • 379

                        #12
                        Here in Chicago, I've always dealt with the Italians and or the Irish.
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                        • flyingillini
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 12-06-06
                          • 41219

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                          The problem with doing book business with Mexicans is the likelihood of them being involved deep in drugs and guns and you end up as part of an investigation you otherwise wouldn't have been in.
                          I have found that Mexican's are the best to deal with when it comes to drugs. Much better than anyone else...
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                          • C-Gold
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 09-04-10
                            • 6808

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                            The problem with doing book business with Mexicans is the likelihood of them being involved deep in drugs and guns and you end up as part of an investigation you otherwise wouldn't have been in.
                            No stereotyping here.

                            Grits did you ever mention your business affairs on your job interview?
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                            • King Mayan
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 09-22-10
                              • 21326

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                              The problem with doing book business with Mexicans is the likelihood of them being involved deep in drugs and guns and you end up as part of an investigation you otherwise wouldn't have been in.
                              Nahh, no drugs..

                              He does run a cockfighting ring.
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                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388179

                                #16
                                I am thinking of using this guy for bases although he is a tough fuk and ex Blood from the old days
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                                • flyingillini
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 12-06-06
                                  • 41219

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by King Mayan
                                  Nahh, no drugs..

                                  He does run a cockfighting ring.
                                  I used to go to them usually every friday night in Santa Maria for years.. I used to love to go to those... made some decent feria back in those days.
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                                  • flyingillini
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 12-06-06
                                    • 41219

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                    I am thinking of using this guy for bases although he is a tough fuk and ex Blood from the old days
                                    Big Sureno probably knows him then, the real OG's came from LA.
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                                    • cp390hdog
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 01-17-12
                                      • 232

                                      #19
                                      I used to deal with some crazy mexicans down in tuscon...we would go to chihuaha and these guys were respected by everyone...
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388179

                                        #20
                                        I am in talks with him thats all

                                        He knows of me and my mafia shit

                                        I will only bet true dime lines up to -240
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                                        • Project X
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 02-07-12
                                          • 22

                                          #21
                                          stfu jj.. i been on here a couple times and u seem annoying as hell... you lost by a hook.. hahaha
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                                          • Grits n' Gravy
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 06-10-10
                                            • 13024

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by C-Gold

                                            No stereotyping here.

                                            Grits did you ever mention your business affairs on your job interview?
                                            Yup, to an extent. Gotta come clean to a point to get key gaming license. Once I cleared background questions up, nothing mattered anymore.
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                                            • Grits n' Gravy
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 06-10-10
                                              • 13024

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by flyingillini
                                              I have found that Mexican's are the best to deal with when it comes to drugs. Much better than anyone else...
                                              Until you come up short and get laced with 150.
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                                              • smoke a bowl
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-09-09
                                                • 2776

                                                #24
                                                Back in New Orleans there were a couple black bookies that worked right out of their houses in the rough neighborhoods. You would walk in,(would usually be some type of security at the front door) look at the lines that they had scribbled on a chalkboard and place your bets. You would pay up front and they would give you a hand written ticket that you would bring back to cash if you won. No ticket, no cash. I bet at these 2 establishments for about 5 yrs and never had a problem though I heard there were some issues here and there.
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                                                • Grits n' Gravy
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 06-10-10
                                                  • 13024

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                                  I am thinking of using this guy for bases although he is a tough fuk and ex Blood from the old days
                                                  As long as you pay on time jj you will have no problem with an old blood. Once in, always in. Tell him you know Pete's cousin and you will be straight. If he doesn't know Pete then he's not a NY/NJ blood, period.
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                                                  • Grits n' Gravy
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 06-10-10
                                                    • 13024

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by cp390hdog
                                                    I used to deal with some crazy mexicans down in tuscon...we would go to chihuaha and these guys were respected by everyone...
                                                    Why not save gas and hit Nogales? When were you staying in Tucson?
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                                                    • jjgold
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                      • 388179

                                                      #27
                                                      Gritter I slow pay at times and he said NO SLOW PAYS

                                                      Fuk that, he is scary and looks tough
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                                                      • Grits n' Gravy
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 06-10-10
                                                        • 13024

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                                        Gritter I slow pay at times and he said NO SLOW PAYS

                                                        Fuk that, he is scary and looks tough
                                                        Looks tough and is tough are 2 different things. Can't blame him for not wanting slow pays. Bad for business. Try mentioning the name Pete and see what kind of reaction you get. If he is legit, you may get credit. Any old blood is going to pay respect to him.
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                                                        • jjgold
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 07-20-05
                                                          • 388179

                                                          #29
                                                          Gritter I will ask him

                                                          I saw him this am in deli with 2 hookers. I think he is a pimp too. I just waived and left.
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                                                          • mh217
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 12-05-10
                                                            • 2226

                                                            #30
                                                            c'mon jj you're getting too old to be living like this.
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                                                            • jjgold
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 07-20-05
                                                              • 388179

                                                              #31
                                                              MH I decided not to go with him

                                                              He is too much City type
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                                                              • cp390hdog
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 01-17-12
                                                                • 232

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                                                                Why not save gas and hit Nogales? When were you staying in Tucson?
                                                                Had a condo in the foothills. Took a big pinch in the Weston lapoloma. Idiot left the room to have lunch with a stripper from Tds east and the mini bar attendant saw lots of stuff and called the cops
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                                                                • BGS 9.5
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 01-10-08
                                                                  • 4628

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Project X
                                                                  stfu jj.. i been on here a couple times and u seem annoying as hell... you lost by a hook.. hahaha
                                                                  Don't backsass the coach pal
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                                                                  • Grits n' Gravy
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 06-10-10
                                                                    • 13024

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by cp390hdog
                                                                    Had a condo in the foothills. Took a big pinch in the Weston lapoloma. Idiot left the room to have lunch with a stripper from Tds east and the mini bar attendant saw lots of stuff and called the cops
                                                                    I remember the good old times at both TDs. $5 lap dances. We ran through pretty much every girl that worked there. Actually was offered chance to buy the East club by Tony before I left Tucson but he didn't own the land and there was a clause in lease that allowed land owner to shut it down if Tony and Dana ever sold it.

                                                                    Are Vivace and King Fisher restaurants still open there? Miss my carne seca at El Charro.
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                                                                    • cp390hdog
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 01-17-12
                                                                      • 232

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Tds east and west were good times. I'm back easy now. We were there when things were booming in the 90s
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