Line service = free money

**raydog** · 02-15-12, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

I know many guys that grind out a living using www.sbrodds.com

Great free tool

No, no you dont...

and not many are making much money off any delayed paid odds service...you might as well use the fukkin lines in the paper...if you arent using a real-time paid service, sportsoptions-pro or db real-time, then you arent even coming close to utilizing what you could.

**MoneyLineDawg** · 02-15-12, 01:54 PM

I primarily use a local....how can I use a line service to my advantage? He uses scoresandodds.com as his lines for 99% of games.....Not sure what book this is affiliated with, but the lines on here seem to be the most common number amongst all books......thanks

For example: 10 books have Bulls -5, 3 books have Bulls -5.5, 1 book has Bulls -4.5......almost every time scoresandodds.com will show Bulls -5

**ebbearsfb1** · 02-15-12, 01:57 PM

That's what I'm asking... how can I use a line service to my advantage?

**blackbart** · 02-15-12, 02:43 PM

while in vegas i saw the manager of a book looking at sports options, the only thing don best {owned by cris** has that sports options doesnt is real time bookmaker/betmaker. unless you need that you are much better off with sports options, its cheaper has quicker injury updates more books etc... majority of bookmaker/cris business is credit, books laying of bets that is who uses don best.

**TheMoneyShot** · 02-15-12, 03:19 PM

Services don't work. Vegas is now tricking majority with line movement. Unless you are right in front of that board watching it... you have no idea of the true "VIBE" with the line movement. It's a sense of feel. Yes... SBROdds are great... but you need to know the manipulation of books methods in realizing what's truly going on. We don't have time to sit in front of a MGM Mirage board all day... but if you did... you'd figure out what the line is doing. On paper... you don't really feel the vibe.

Your best bet is to just use your own knowledge... every time a star athlete is scratched... it seems like the team that lost the star player always covers. 80% of the time. I'm just saying... we all let a few plays go... that we should of cashed on... but remember how many plays you let slide that saved you money. Realistically... THINK ABOUT IT. Do your own method.

**jjgold** · 02-15-12, 03:48 PM

Everyone has different preferences , www.sbrodds.com suits 80% of bettors

**Bluehorseshoe** · 02-15-12, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by LVHerbie

Been using the free login for ~ 3 months without issue... Not sure what their model is for the future but appears they are currently giving away their excellent product until they decide...

Same here. It's perfect for what I need it for.

**BrianLaverty** · 02-15-12, 11:58 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Don Best is what all the big timers use

Sports Options is what the squares use as far as pay services

you are an idiot.

Sports Insights is actually what the squares use.

I've paid for a year of all 3 pay services at one time or another.

Sports Options is by far the best value.

Sports Insights is atrocious.

I would rank them in value:

1) Sports Options 2) Don Best 3) SI

SBR Odds is so far ahead of SI... but I still think the first two are necessary.

**Mikail** · 02-16-12, 12:01 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Line services are a good tool period
I think line movement does mean something
Betting Percentages mean ZERO

Not true! If you know how to use this info (Public betting percentages) it's very useful and can yield nice profits.

**raydog** · 02-16-12, 01:55 AM

Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg

I primarily use a local....how can I use a line service to my advantage? He uses scoresandodds.com as his lines for 99% of games.....Not sure what book this is affiliated with, but the lines on here seem to be the most common number amongst all books......thanks

For example: 10 books have Bulls -5, 3 books have Bulls -5.5, 1 book has Bulls -4.5......almost every time scoresandodds.com will show Bulls -5

if your local simply follows an odds site (scores/odds, wagerline...etc), he will be extremely slow on moves...having a real times odds service allows you to bury locals #s...heck, even a delayed odds service should be fast enough to beat locals closers all day long... slow locals will get destroyed by a good gambler using a good service

**broadway6** · 02-16-12, 07:14 PM

Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg

I primarily use a local....how can I use a line service to my advantage? He uses scoresandodds.com as his lines for 99% of games.....Not sure what book this is affiliated with, but the lines on here seem to be the most common number amongst all books......thanks

For example: 10 books have Bulls -5, 3 books have Bulls -5.5, 1 book has Bulls -4.5......almost every time scoresandodds.com will show Bulls -5

who cares what 10 books have, follow pinnacle lines

**MoneyLineDawg** · 02-16-12, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by raydog

if your local simply follows an odds site (scores/odds, wagerline...etc), he will be extremely slow on moves...having a real times odds service allows you to bury locals #s...heck, even a delayed odds service should be fast enough to beat locals closers all day long... slow locals will get destroyed by a good gambler using a good service

Thanks man....can you give me a good example of this? Also all lines are -110 with him

I killed him in football season, but I'm getting beat up in basketball......just can't pick winners on a consistent basis so beating the closers isn't really my problem right now

Originally posted by broadway6

who cares what 10 books have, follow pinnacle lines

Read it again, my bookie uses scoresandodds.com for his lines.....The lines on there are the average of all lines out there I believe

Are you saying if Pinny just moved a team -6 a little before gametime and my bookie still has a team at -6.5, I should jump on the +6.5 every time?

**jjgold** · 02-17-12, 07:34 AM

Originally posted by BrianLaverty

you are an idiot.

Sports Insights is actually what the squares use.

I've paid for a year of all 3 pay services at one time or another.

Sports Options is by far the best value.

Sports Insights is atrocious.

I would rank them in value:

1) Sports Options 2) Don Best 3) SI

SBR Odds is so far ahead of SI... but I still think the first two are necessary.

Sports Insights is a fraud service and a huge waste of money

Inaccurate and they steal lines from books

Never ever use it

Don Best is what every pro in the world has as does every book

**Bill Dozer** · 02-17-12, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by darkhat

I somehow didn't even know a bout sbrodds until this thread.. Glad i found it.

You are the topic of todays marketing meeting.

**broadway6** · 02-17-12, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg

Thanks man....can you give me a good example of this? Also all lines are -110 with him

I killed him in football season, but I'm getting beat up in basketball......just can't pick winners on a consistent basis so beating the closers isn't really my problem right now

Read it again, my bookie uses scoresandodds.com for his lines.....The lines on there are the average of all lines out there I believe

Are you saying if Pinny just moved a team -6 a little before gametime and my bookie still has a team at -6.5, I should jump on the +6.5 every time?

I'm saying pinny is by far the sharpest book out there. Of course not every book is perfect every game. However, you will profit over the long haul if u best pinnys closer.

I've seen pinny move quite a few lines late and it lost. Late movement isn't 100% dead on either.

**broadway6** · 02-17-12, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Sports Insights is a fraud service and a huge waste of money

Inaccurate and they steal lines from books

Never ever use it

Don Best is what every pro in the world has as does every book

Not Sbr pro. Sbr only charges 200 not 5k

**jjgold** · 02-17-12, 11:55 AM

www.sbrodds.com is free and blows away sports insights which is like $100 a month

**poloyol** · 02-17-12, 02:11 PM

SBR is a great free line service BUT....SBR needs to make these adjustments...

Halftime Lines..(1)option to move all Halftime games to the top of the screen,(2)Halftime Ticker,(3) Play sound when Halftime starts.

They also need Shortcut Keys

Pop up Alerts (injuries,time change,Line ups,etc..)

Vegas Casino lines (Hilton,Mirage,etc..)

**GJMike** · 02-17-12, 07:00 PM

John, I missed you in Panama. Did you play in the golf tourney down there? I will give you one other service you could use...

In fact I need to get a little more active on getting some other books on there.

**jjgold** · 02-17-12, 07:14 PM

Originally posted by poloyol

SBR is a great free line service BUT....SBR needs to make these adjustments...

Halftime Lines..(1)option to move all Halftime games to the top of the screen,(2)Halftime Ticker,(3) Play sound when Halftime starts.

They also need Shortcut Keys

Pop up Alerts (injuries,time change,Line ups,etc..)

Vegas Casino lines (Hilton,Mirage,etc..)

Good post, lets hope Billy Joe Dozer see this

Mike send me a dime
Thanks

**BrianLaverty** · 02-18-12, 06:04 AM

They should also have a scrolling lines ticker.... best part about sports options.... and obviously have the key moves thing popup like they di.