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    Bush vs Gore 10 years later

    http://texasgopvote.com/george-w-bus...s-later-002269

    Ten years ago, Al Gore tried to steal the presidency of George W. Bush.


    That is how the story should be written for all of history, but the left will try to spin it otherwise.
    Rehashing every single moment in the 36 day 2000 Election drama would be more boring than an Al Gore speech. A decade later, some things that were true in 2000 remain true in 2010.


    Richard Nixon could have sued to challenge the election of John Kennedy in 1960. There was real election fraud, with dead people in Chicago and other dirty tricks in LBJ’s home state of Texas providing the difference. Nixon refused to challenge the results because he did not want to plunge America into a constitutional crisis.


    Republicans are the party of laws. Democrats are the party of lawyers. Even when Nixon was on the rocks, he resigned to avoid an impeachment trial. At his two lowest moments, he wanted to spare the country from crisis. Bill Clinton and Al Gore continued the tradition of Democrats trying to win at all costs, regardless of who gets hurt.


    The 2000 election combined with the Clinton impeachment also led to the left embarking on a poisoning of our culture that we may never recover from.


    While the original politics of personal destruction began in 1987 with drunk driver and negligent homicide perpetrator Ted Kennedy verbally butchering Judge Robert Bork, the 2000 election finally allowed the leftist lunatic fringe to run wild.


    George W. Bush did not steal the election. He simply won a close election. There was no fraud, unless one counts Al Gore trying to manufacture votes with concepts such as “undervotes.” Voter intent became whatever Gore said it was.


    Yet to the rabid frothing left, President Bush was an evil murderer, torturer, Nazi, Fascist, racist (stop me when you’re bored from the slurs) bigot who “stole” the presidency.


    The left never ever gave him a chance. They despised him from the moment he was declared the winner. On every issue, their predetermined opinion of him led them. By responding with civility, Bush made them more enraged. They will never accept that he won the presidency honestly.


    The left did not complain when the the liberal media led by Bush-despising “fake but accurate” memo supporting Gunga Dan Rather gleefully called Florida for Gore before the heavily Republican Panhandle polls closed.


    The left had no complaints when that same liberal media in conjunction with Al Gore broke the Bush drunk driving scandal four days before the election. In 2000 and 2004, the left did everything they could to get into the gutter to drag President Bush down with 11th hour hit jobs. No gutter is too low for the left.


    The left complains that he was a “Supreme Court appointed” president based on a 5-4 vote. Would the left say the same thing had Gore won 5-4? Of course not. The Florida Supreme Court ruled 4-3 in favor of Gore, and the left was hailing the decision. The left has used the courts for decades to force their agenda, yet dare to criticize the courts the rare times they lose.


    Lower district court rulings went in favor of Bush, and those judges were Democrats, including N. Sander Sauls. Liberals dismissed this as rulings by “Southern Democrats,” as if that should mean anything other than liberals dismissing anything not in total agreement with them.


    Then Al Gore did what liberals do. He tried to simply make up new rules. Rather than agree to a statewide recount, he tried to only have a recount in four heavily liberal areas. The goal was simple. Get the lead, declare that the American people were “exhausted” by the process, and declare that we should all “move on.”


    This tactic allowed Al Franken to steal the Minnesota Senate seat from Norm Coleman and for Christine Gregoire to steal the Washington State Governorship from Dino Rossi. Those elections had real voter fraud.


    Eventually it was ruled that Gore had to have a statewide recount, but that there was no time to get it done in time by the deadline.


    Had this been New Jersey, the deadline would have been ignored, which is how Frank Lautenberg illegally got back on the ballot to steal another election.


    Yet all Florida did was enforce the law.


    Democrats claimed that Republican Secretary of State Katherine Harris was a partisan hack. Yet they had no problem with a Democrat Attorney General using every legal trick in the book to get Gore over the goal line.


    Again, conservatives are about laws. Liberals are about lawyers.


    Governor Jeb Bush was accused of rigging the election for his brother, yet any honest assessment showed that he recused himself from every major decision, an act of unilateral disarmament given that his Attorney General kept shilling for Gore.


    (This is where the left goes berserk for being conservative and existing. What they cannot and will not do is say I am wrong. Every fact I laid out is right, so their hyperventilating is boring.)
    George W. Bush would go on to lead America during trying times punctuated by the horrors of 9/11. His heroism on that day will be remembered forever. He retired to his ranch happy and at peace.


    Al Gore turned into a raving lunatic resembling the homeless man in the town square rambling to anyone who would listen. Despite making about a billion dollars thanks to Google, he remained empty and unsatisfied. He won meaningless statuettes like Nobel prizes and Academy awards, but lost his marriage. His one area where he received adulation was his environmental lunacy, and he even recently admitted what we all knew. He is a fraud. He said so himself, regarding Ethanol subsidies.


    When all is said and done, Al Gore was willing to destroy anything and everything to become president. The nation did not matter. He wanted power, and to heck with all who got in his way. Now he has unchecked power, burning lear jet fuel in the name of conservation and celebrating climate change through Winter Break party junkets in Cancun based on science extracted from equally fraudulent “scientists.”


    Looking back, we now know that the better man won the election. Those who support hatred and poison and confuse enemies with opponents will still cling to Al Gore, but their arguments are as hollow as the Goracle himself once the self-righteous tree stump is removed from his hide.
    George W. Bush is a far better man than Al Gore will ever be.


    Legally and morally, the better man won the 2000 election.


    In 2010, the gulf between these two men is wider than ever.


    Al Gore is only relevant because the Daily Kos, Huffington Post, and Moveon.org lunatic bigots will not let him leave. They share a mutually parasitic relationship, empty shells reassuring each other that they are not vapid morally bankrupt wastes of space.


    President George W. Bush is a gracious man of honor, integrity, and character.
    He is a man comfortable in his own skin, a man at peace.


    Al Gore leaves a legacy of lawsuits, election disruptions, and lies.


    George W. Bush leaves a legacy of leadership.


    That is what is left of the 2000 election.


    The right man won.

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    Oh God. Countdown to Grandmaster B's arrival in...

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    The most overlooked issue in the 2000 election is that algore could not win his homestate of Tennessee. If he could have, Florida would not have mattered.

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    Can anyone really dispute that we would be far better off right now if Gore had been president instead of Bush ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProfaneReality View Post
    Can anyone really dispute that we would be far better off right now if Gore had been president instead of Bush ?
    yes

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    Stupid post...

    All I have to say is Volusia County.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaul2008 View Post
    Stupid post...

    All I have to say is Volusia County.
    Again....all I have to say is Tennessee in 2000.

    2004 wasn't even close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProfaneReality View Post
    Can anyone really dispute that we would be far better off right now if Gore had been president instead of Bush ?
    Only those with their heads in the sand.

    the Iraq War is now longer than WWII by a good bit, and has cost taxpayers 747 Billion Dollars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProfaneReality View Post
    Can anyone really dispute that we would be far better off right now if Gore had been president instead of Bush ?
    Why would we be better off?


    Not sure why Bush gets so much hate... only real problem I had with him was spending too much money

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    Popular Vote
    Bush: 50,456,00 47.87%
    Gore: 50,999,897 48.38%

    Why do we use the Electoral vote again? Oh, "There might be a tie".

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    Jeb gift wrapped Florida for his brother. Then the next year the terrorists attacked us because George let the borders unsecured.

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    good post Woody! Bush is a good man who did what he felt necessary to protect his people. History will show him as one of the best presidents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carseller4 View Post
    Again....all I have to say is Tennessee in 2000.

    2004 wasn't even close.
    Are you kidding? 2004 came down to Ohio and there was massive fraud there...in fact there have been convictions.
    And look up Volusia County/2000 election....forget chads....this is what flipped the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Jeb gift wrapped Florida for his brother. Then the next year the terrorists attacked us because George let the borders unsecured.
    Lol you can't be serious....

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    Jeb gift wrapped Florida for his brother. Then the next year the terrorists attacked us because George let the borders unsecured.
    Pavy, sometimes I swear you would tell someone that salt is really sugar

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    If you are running for President and you can't win your homestate, you don't deserve to be elected.

    The people that knew algore best did not want him.

    Who gives a shit about Volusia County? Screw Florida....it came down to algore losing Tennessee...his freaking HOME state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruceBRUCEbruce View Post
    Only those with their heads in the sand. the Iraq War is now longer than WWII by a good bit, and has cost taxpayers 747 Billion Dollars.
    "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
    -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

    "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
    -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carseller4 View Post
    If you are running for President and you can't win your homestate, you don't deserve to be elected.
    how can anybody dispute that?

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    Actually the reason George won Florida by 300 votes was because Jeb had all state workers in the panhandle that were on central time vote after the major news reported Gore won the state when the polls closed on eastern time in the rest of the state. Then magically all the votes that gave Bush the slim win came from the western panhandle which was on central time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post

    how can anybody dispute that?
    Probably because it's completely irrelevant. If W had been born in Connecticut but had the same ideas he would not have won his home state.

    Also, the article is hilarious in positing that Gore was trying to "steal" an election where he got more votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the woodpile View Post
    Nixon refused to challenge the results because he did not want to plunge America into a constitutional crisis.
    Never mind that Nixon eventually proved he had no respect for the US Constitution

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaul2008 View Post
    Are you kidding? 2004 came down to Ohio and there was massive fraud there...in fact there have been convictions.
    And look up Volusia County/2000 election....forget chads....this is what flipped the election.
    Leave it to a Paultard to break out the tinfoil.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Carseller4 View Post
    If you are running for President and you can't win your homestate, you don't deserve to be elected.

    The people that knew algore best did not want him.

    Who gives a shit about Volusia County? Screw Florida....it came down to algore losing Tennessee...his freaking HOME state.
    Do you even know what happened there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrStale View Post
    Probably because it's completely irrelevant. If W had been born in Connecticut but had the same ideas he would not have won his home state.

    Also, the article is hilarious in positing that Gore was trying to "steal" an election where he got more votes.
    What do you mean if? W was born in Connecticut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrStale View Post
    an election where he got more votes.
    Probably because it's completely irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaul2008 View Post

    What do you mean if? W was born in Connecticut.
    Ha, you're right, totally forgot that. Guess neither of them won their home state so neither deserved the Presidency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    Probably because it's completely irrelevant.
    You do realize how ridiculous it is that the guy with the most votes lost the election because "getting the most votes is irrelevant"? Congratulations, you used a 200 year old loophole to sneak in the backdoor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaul2008 View Post
    Do you even know what happened there?
    Yes, and the error was caught and corrected on the night of the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrStale View Post
    You do realize how ridiculous it is that the guy with the most votes lost the election because "getting the most votes is irrelevant"? Congratulations, you used a 200 year old loophole to sneak in the backdoor.
    wasn't that they rule going into the election?

    are you also gonna say that if the Yankees beat the Phillies in 7 games but since the Phillies out scored the NYY in the series, they should be the world champs? I didn't think so.

    next

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrStale View Post
    You do realize how ridiculous it is that the guy with the most votes lost the election because "getting the most votes is irrelevant"? Congratulations, you used a 200 year old loophole to sneak in the backdoor.
    What I remember in the months leading up to that election was the conventional wisdom was that it was going to be a close election and that Bush may win the popular vote, but that Gore may also win the electoral vote (opposite of what turned out). At that time, the media pushed a number of articles praising the electoral college system. Of course, that all went away after the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the woodpile View Post
    What I remember in the months leading up to that election was the conventional wisdom was that it was going to be a close election and that Bush may win the popular vote, but that Gore may also win the electoral vote (opposite of what turned out). At that time, the media pushed a number of articles praising the electoral college system. Of course, that all went away after the election.
    funny how that works out

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    wasn't that they rule going into the election?

    are you also gonna say that if the Yankees beat the Phillies in 7 games but since the Phillies out scored the NYY in the series, they should be the world champs? I didn't think so.

    next
    No, it's like saying The Steelers (Gore) beat the Ravens (Bush) 24-21, but the Ravens had more Yards so they win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the woodpile View Post
    Yet to the rabid frothing left, President Bush was an evil murderer, torturer, racist ...

    Wow - how accurate - the sooner this guy is tried for war crimes and hanged the better IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwightShrute View Post
    wasn't that they rule going into the election?

    are you also gonna say that if the Yankees beat the Phillies in 7 games but since the Phillies out scored the NYY in the series, they should be the world champs? I didn't think so.

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    I would say the team with more runs should be the winner.

    I am not saying George Bush should not have won based on the law, I am saying he should not have won based on logic and reason. The electoral college was designed in a completely different era because of a lack of trust in voters and inaccurate tracking of votes. There is no reason for the electoral college to exist today.

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    States can apportion their electors any way they like....for instance Maine does it by districts.
    Last edited by RonPaul2008; 12-22-10 at 01:46 PM.

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