Contest Rules

[AgainstAllOdds]

For me, some of the contest rules are ridiculous. i.e. needing to have 5 diffrent books in order to play the 128 man handicapping tourney. The 3x Rollover assoicated with most winnings from sbr contests. For the upcoming Beat the Prick Contest, needing to sign up with a NEW book of sbr's choice and depositing at least $100. To me, these are all bogus rules,however, as some have mentioned, if you dont want to follow the rules, then you dont have to play.

But I think when making a contest, SBR should try to go above and beyound to get posters involved. The situation im reffering to is with Mudcat. He is currently not allowed to play in the Beat the Prick contest because he already has an account at all the books that sbr offers. I think this is bullshit. I have included the following quote from him.

As far as I know that's correct. I definitely already have accounts everywhere. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

I haven't been following the situation that carefully but I did see an SBR person (Crazyl ??) saying at one point that people in my situation would just have to sit this one out. Don't know if that has changed.

I think what should happen is SBR should make expecptions for people that already have all the books. If they really wanted to keep with the same process, add more options for people to sign up. Either way I think the contest rules can be shady at times. I have come to the conclusion that if Mudcat isnt allowed to participate in the BTP contest, Im not going to participate either.

[HedgeHog]

I'm in the same boat as Mudcat. I have or had accounts at all these places at one time or another. I signed up for the BTP contest before seeing the restrictive rules, but apparently I'm out, too.

[pavyracer]

I had to sign for accounts that I didn't intent to under normal circumstances just to play in the 128 man tourney and when I saw the rules for Beat the Prick I balked. You can't expect a serious gambler like me to be playing at 10 books at a time.

[EaglesPhan36]

The Beat The Prick one I think does suck. I guess after giving away all this free money from books, the books want something back.

[durito]

I assumed this was something that would get changed, but apparently not.

[biggamer3]

Yeah the community here has voiced there opinion lets get this rule changed!

[Mudcat]

This was what I was referring to:

Well, if someone hypothetically has accounts at every single sportsbook offered for this contest, then unfortunately they wouldn't meet the terms and would have to sit this one out. I expect that % of posters to be a very small minority though. I can understand it'd be frustrating but then again this is just one of many contests we offer and there'll be other things you could enjoy here in the future.

It's not that frustrating for me. It is more a relief. Contests are a bit of a nuisance. I don't enter them but for some reason I feel like I have a duty to play BTP. I don't know why.

And I get all stressed. It's stupid. I'll have normal bets worth 10x the amount on Sunday but I'll be all stressed about my BTP pick.

Some kind of ego thing, I suppose.

But I'm not feeling all that put out personally if I can't participate.



But no matter how easy-going I want to be about this, it just doesn't seem right, having rules that discriminate against the most experienced players simply because they have already given the max support to the sponsors.

[donjuan]

You can't expect a serious gambler like me to be playing at 10 books at a time.

Paging Alanis...

[pico]

i only got 3/5 books before the start of the contest. doesn't matter anyways, i am out.

[Al Masters]

For me, some of the contest rules are ridiculous. i.e. needing to have 5 diffrent books in order to play the 128 man handicapping tourney. The 3x Rollover assoicated with most winnings from sbr contests. For the upcoming Beat the Prick Contest, needing to sign up with a NEW book of sbr's choice and depositing at least $100. To me, these are all bogus rules,however, as some have mentioned, if you dont want to follow the rules, then you dont have to play.

But I think when making a contest, SBR should try to go above and beyound to get posters involved. The situation im reffering to is with Mudcat. He is currently not allowed to play in the Beat the Prick contest because he already has an account at all the books that sbr offers. I think this is bullshit. I have included the following quote from him.




I think what should happen is SBR should make expecptions for people that already have all the books. If they really wanted to keep with the same process, add more options for people to sign up. Either way I think the contest rules can be shady at times. I have come to the conclusion that if Mudcat isnt allowed to participate in the BTP contest, Im not going to participate either.

AAO, besides all the good times at the bash, what else happened?

Did some of the older guys experience rub off on you?

I've noticed many of your posts since the bash have been much more mature and intelligent in content then in the past.

This is no knock against your past posting history.

Kudos to you for making your opinion heard and standing by a fellow poster(Mudcat) who is a victim of SBR'S foolish/selfish rules.

Pulling yourself out of BTP, on general principle looks good on you, now just keep the wig off,


.............................AL

[AgainstAllOdds]

I do not know who acutally makes the rules for these contests, but I would hope that Bill or Sean or whoever does would be able to come in and give thier opinion on this subject.

[Bill Dozer]

AAO,

As I told you earlier your feedback is always appreciated. I do think we may have spoiled you a little.

It doesn't get much better than the bracket tourney. You'll have to go to a soup kitchen for a better bargain. Five sponsors meant more prize for each winner. Most bettors would appreciate having 5 accounts loaded before foots without messing with deposits. Unfortunately, no, SBR can't always send out checks. The free money is from the books, who hope to get poster feedback.

Regarding SBRcontests.com, some books offer to give posters additional bonuses for trying them. SBRcontests is a fun way to compete for the that money. We still have some forum-based contests going with baseball dogs, 128 man tourney, and a soon to launch, MNF challenge. Hopefully you take part in the offers that you enjoy and are worth your time, and are here for the same reason. I know that the BTP brand goes way back here and everyone is looking forward to going at it again. Obviously there are a few changes with how it works but we'll see if we can do something for the couple of vets who looked forward to another shot at The Prick.

[pokernut9999]

I was looking forward to the BTP contest this year , due to the new rules I will be passing on it also.

[pavyracer]

Has a single poster signed up for BTP? Everyone appears to be balking.

[AgainstAllOdds]

AAO,

As I told you earlier your feedback is always appreciated. I do think we may have spoiled you a little.

It doesn't get much better than the bracket tourney. You'll have to go to a soup kitchen for a better bargain. Five sponsors meant more prize for each winner. Most bettors would appreciate having 5 accounts loaded before foots without messing with deposits. Unfortunately, no, SBR can't always send out checks. The free money is from the books, who hope to get poster feedback.

Regarding SBRcontests.com, some books offer to give posters additional bonuses for trying them. SBRcontests is a fun way to compete for the that money. We still have some forum-based contests going with baseball dogs, 128 man tourney, and a soon to launch, MNF challenge. Hopefully you take part in the offers that you enjoy and are worth your time, and are here for the same reason. I know that the BTP brand goes way back here and everyone is looking forward to going at it again. Obviously there are a few changes with how it works but we'll see if we can do something for the couple of vets who looked forward to another shot at The Prick.

Thats pretty much all I was looking for. Even if you could add a few more books or make an exception for them and just allow them to play outright. In any case, keep me informed, because as I have already stated, I will not participate if solid posters like mudcat and hedgehog are not allowed to.

[Bill Dozer]

You got it AAO! Would you like to be removed from the Bash blog Contest and the 128 man tourney?

[AgainstAllOdds]

You got it AAO! Would you like to be removed from the Bash blog Contest and the 128 man tourney?

Well lets see Bill, was there anyone who was excluded from those contests?

128 man I believe the only requirement was that you sign up with the five books. And if you didnt feel comfortable with signing up with 5, you could still play and only take the books you wanted. Although I think those rules were kind of foolish, anyone was allowed to play and still collect prizes.

The bash blog - Everyone with a minimum 100 posts was allowed to attend. The rules stated everyone was allowed to take pics. No one was excluded from this either.

So what is your point? Lets leave the games in the contests.

[AnotherLoan]

AAO how can you be bitching? You just went to the SBR bash where they paid for many things and now you are bashing them?

Stay out of The Prick contest, nobody cares.

[HedgeHog]

Has a single poster signed up for BTP? Everyone appears to be balking.

Why should marital status come into play?

Seriously, many of us are being axed by the new rules. Bad call, SBR.

[AgainstAllOdds]

AAO how can you be bitching? You just went to the SBR bash where they paid for many things and now you are bashing them?

Stay out of The Prick contest, nobody cares.

So I guess I cant disagree with anything anymore because sbr did something nice for its posters? Thats legit.

[Immortality]

AAO how can you be bitching? You just went to the SBR bash where they paid for many things and now you are bashing them?

Stay out of The Prick contest, nobody cares.

Way out of line post. AAO i asking questions which there should be nothing wrong with. When did disagreeing with something and voicing an opinion become bitching & moaning? Whether you agree with his stance or not is irrelevant. He should be allowed to voice his concerns without being bashed by others.

[HedgeHog]

So I guess I cant disagree with anything anymore because sbr did something nice for its posters? Thats legit.

This is a great thread AAO. It's not disrespectful and SBR needs the feedback on perhaps its best contest.

[AnotherLoan]

I agree guys. Step up SBR! Let the vets who've been here the longest have a chance to play.

[Al Masters]

Way out of line post. AAO i asking questions which there should be nothing wrong with. When did disagreeing with something and voicing an opinion become bitching & moaning? Whether you agree with his stance or not is irrelevant. He should be allowed to voice his concerns without being bashed by others.

Good post...i agree

[rake922]

Has a single poster signed up for BTP? Everyone appears to be balking.

only durito

[durito]

only durito

Cool.

$5,000 a week * 14 + the $5,000 first price.

Looks like an easy $75,000 for me.

Too bad you guys couldn't come up with $100.

[Bill Dozer]

Just asking AAO...

But, you know from when we spoke earlier that the player requests were not being ignored. Like I said, we will always do the most we can for posters.

[rake922]

Cool.

$5,000 a week * 14 + the $5,000 first price.

Looks like an easy $75,000 for me.

Too bad you guys couldn't come up with $100.

no.... You have to beat the prick I think

[durito]

oh yea.

i didn't think it through since the whole idea is ridiculous. you had to deposit $100 to cris two years ago and just as many people played as last year. i expect no different this year.

not that beating the prick is terribly difficult. did it 6 times in 2006 for $1,200. 4 times last year for $0. not surprising that i like the format of this years contest much better.

[AgainstAllOdds]

Way out of line post. AAO is asking questions which there should be nothing wrong with. When did disagreeing with something and voicing an opinion become bitching & moaning? Whether you agree with his stance or not is irrelevant. He should be allowed to voice his concerns without being bashed by others.

This is a great thread AAO. It's not disrespectful and SBR needs the feedback on perhaps its best contest.

Thanks fellas!

[AgainstAllOdds]

Just asking AAO...

But, you know from when we spoke earlier that the player requests were not being ignored. Like I said, we will always do the most we can for posters.

Bill, when I spoke with you earlier, the way you came off was, Rules are rules and thats the way its gonna be. Im sorry if I misunderstood you. However, has there been a change in the rules or at least some kind of consideration of it? When or if you do make that descion, please notify me.

Again, I wasnt trying to start a big problem, just wanted to express my concerns about the contests.

oh yea.

i didn't think it through since the whole idea is ridiculous. you had to deposit $100 to cris two years ago and just as many people played as last year. i expect no different this year.

not that beating the prick is terribly difficult. did it 6 times in 2006 for $1,200. 4 times last year for $0. not surprising that i like the format of this years contest much better.

Durito, its not about the $100 as much as it is about the posters that are not allowed to play simply because they cant sign up for a new account at the books that sbr is offering. If you already had accounts at all the books and sbr told you you couldnt partipate...I think your tune would be a bit diffrent.

[durito]

Durito, its not about the $100 as much as it is about the posters that are not allowed to play simply because they cant sign up for a new account at the books that sbr is offering. If you already had accounts at all the books and sbr told you you couldnt partipate...I think your tune would be a bit diffrent.

I already said in this thread that that was something I thought that they would change and Bill said they are looking into it. So, in that regard I'm taking the wait and see approach. But, yes I agree they should make a provision for people that already have all those books.

[AgainstAllOdds]

I see this provision was added today to the BTP rules.
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* Posters who may have recently signed up at one of the SBRcontests.com sponsors for another SBR-related contest (128-man tournament or Bookmaker poker tournament) and did not yet fund one of those accounts will be permitted to fund one of those accounts in order to participate in BTP or other SBRcontests.com contests

Although its not the best way to do things, it does bring the total count of books to 11. Here is a list that can be used.

Bookmaker
DSI
Legendz
BetJamaica
5Dimes
The Pig
BetCRIS
Las Palmas
Intertops

Added today:
Betonline and Carib.

[durito]

AAO,

they added that provision about the 128 man capping contest a few days ago to the stickied thread up top

are you sure they added betonline and carib? i might be missing something but i was assuming it meant that if you had signed up at one of the current btp sponsors for the 128 man contest, then you could use that book for btp (ie just 5dimes, betjm, and bookmaker).

either way they are supposed to be working on adding some other books soon

[Sean]

"Posters who may have recently signed up at one of the SBRcontests.com sponsors for another SBR-related contest ... "

This does not currently include BOL or Carib

I do hope that we hear back from them with regards to sponsoring on SBR Contests, but, as of this writing, that hasn't happened