Beantownjim is JJGold:Proof inside

[BEANTOWNJIM]

JJGOLD WAS NEVER A MODERATOR AT THE RX THE SHRINK HATED THE GUY I DONT THINK JJGOLD EVER HAD A PAID POSITION BESIDES THE SBR FORUM HE WAS A WALKING TIME BOMB WHEN HE WAS YOUNGER

NOW THAT HE IS BEING PAID BY SBR JOHN HE HAS BECOME A COMPANY MAN

[jjgold]

I was paid by Kenny at both his sites

I was his henchman for a while but things went sour

I shook Kenny down for $$$$$ numerous times

He fukked me $400 my last stint there

[tony_come]

This is crazy!

[jjgold]

I will never forget the day Lenny from Cascade took a shot at Jimmy

Lenny left a game up too long and Jimmy had no clue it started and bet it

According to the rules that is a no bet

Lenny waited for the game to be over and when it lost he kept Jimmy's money

[BEANTOWNJIM]

COULDNT HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER JJGOLD AND YOUR BUDDY SBR JOHN SIDED WITH LENNY THINKING HE WAS GOING TO ADVERTISE AT SBR

SBR JOHN SHOWED HIS TRUE COLORS WHEN HE TOLD ME ON THE PHONE I CANT DO ANYTHING LENNY IS REALLY MAD AND IS YELLING AT ME SBR JOHN GOT YELLED AT AND BACKED DOWN

NOBODY CAN DENY I GOT ROBBED YOU WILL NEVER FIND A SPORTSBOOK THAT GRADES A BET 20 MINUTS AFTER A GAME STARTED THEN WHEN IT LOSES SAY O.K. YOU HAD ACTION AND I AM STEALING YOUR 660 DOLLARS

SBR JOHN IS FULL OF SHIT

[ApricotSinner32]

COULDNT HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER JJGOLD AND YOUR BUDDY SBR JOHN SIDED WITH LENNY THINKING HE WAS GOING TO ADVERTISE AT SBR

SBR JOHN SHOWED HIS TRUE COLORS WHEN HE TOLD ME ON THE PHONE I CANT DO ANYTHING LENNY IS REALLY MAD AND IS YELLING AT ME SBR JOHN GOT YELLED AT AND BACKED DOWN

NOBODY CAN DENY I GOT ROBBED YOU WILL NEVER FIND A SPORTSBOOK THAT GRADES A BET 20 MINUTS AFTER A GAME STARTED THEN WHEN IT LOSES SAY O.K. YOU HAD ACTION AND I AM STEALING YOUR 660 DOLLARS

SBR JOHN IS FULL OF SHIT

[SBR_John]

I will never forget the day Lenny from Cascade took a shot at Jimmy

Lenny left a game up too long and Jimmy had no clue it started and bet it

According to the rules that is a no bet

Lenny waited for the game to be over and when it lost he kept Jimmy's money

Uhh no. Beantown bet the lopsided winning side knowing that if he lost he would cry. It lost. And cry he has. Books in those days sometimes left games up for a few extra minutes.

Jim you are a shot taker and SBR does not back shot takers. Take a shot at your own risk but don't be a shot taker and run to SBR to bail you out. It's as true now as it was 8 years ago.

[jjgold]

Walker .... Lenny erased the rules from thec website after the game and kept Jimmy's cash

Lenny took a shot at Jimmy
Jimmy had no idea game started but it did not matter because rules are rules

Russ backed Lenny
Russ threatened to kill me for going against him Lenny

Walker was not involved

[PuckOff]

-BTJ joined SBR soon after JJGold in '05, probably to boost traffic
-There have been no simultaneous posts within one minute unless it is in the same thread. Strange considering how much JJ posts
-BTJ says he hates Nigerians but somehow has a soft spot for Jews???
-BTJ stated that JJ is the president of the posters at sbr forum. Come on JJ

BTJ post s in all uppercase UNTIL one day he let his guard down.

I'll never forget that day where I caught him and called him out on it. Another poster realized this and I think it was Pavy. BTJ also uses your instead of you're or you are. Just like JJ. this is part of JJ's style... Using "your" instead of you are, you're. JJ is educated and knows better.

[RealSlimShady]

I was paid by Kenny at both his sites

I was his henchman for a while but things went sour

I shook Kenny down for $$$$$ numerous times

He fukked me $400 my last stint there

Still crying over your $400.....

[minet123]

Still crying over your $400.....

I told him last week where his $400 went

[Big Bear]

jJ Gold invented SBR.

[BIGDAY]

5 Son...................one from NJ

2 from Texas

1 from Calif

1 from UK

[BEANTOWNJIM]

BOOKS IN THOSE DAYS SOMETIMES LEFT GAMES UP A COUPLE OF EXTRA MINUTES HEY SBR JOHN IT WASNT A COUPLE OF MINUTES IT WAS 20 MINUTES YOU KNOW WHO TOOK THE SHOT IT WAS LENNY BECAUSE HE WAS HOLDING MY MONEY.

SEE BOYS THERES YOUR WATCHDOG SBR JOHN ITS O.K. FOR A SPORTSBOOK TO LEAVE A GAME UP 20 MINUTES AFTER IT STARTS EVEN THOUGH THEY HAD A WRITTEN RULE THAT SAID
(ALL WAGERS WILL BE ACCEPTED UP UNTIL THE POSTED STARTING TIME OF THE EVENT) SBR JOHH SHOW ME WHERE IN THE WRITTEN RULES IT STATED WE LEAVE GAMES UP 20 MINUTES AFTER THEY START YOUR EMBARRASSING YOURSELF SBR JOHN WATCHDOG SITE

HEY SBR JOHN WHY DONT YOU TELL THE POSTERS WHAT YOU TOLD ME LENNY IS SCREAMING AT ME BEANTOWNJIM I CANT DO ANYTHING FOR YOU THANKS FOR NOTHING SBR JOHN YOU COWARD LENNY YELLEED AT YOU AND YOU GOT SCARED

SBR JOHN TELL ME ONE SPORTSBOOK THAT WOULD GRADE A BET THAT WAS ACCEPTED 20 MINUTES AFTER THE GAME STARTED YOUR SO FULL OF SHIT NO OTHER SPORTSBOOK EXCEPT LENNY AND CASCADE WOULD TAKE SHOTS AT PLAYERS LIKE LENNY DID

[Br0nxer]

COULDNT HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER JJGOLD AND YOUR BUDDY SBR JOHN SIDED WITH LENNY THINKING HE WAS GOING TO ADVERTISE AT SBR

SBR JOHN SHOWED HIS TRUE COLORS WHEN HE TOLD ME ON THE PHONE I CANT DO ANYTHING LENNY IS REALLY MAD AND IS YELLING AT ME SBR JOHN GOT YELLED AT AND BACKED DOWN

NOBODY CAN DENY I GOT ROBBED YOU WILL NEVER FIND A SPORTSBOOK THAT GRADES A BET 20 MINUTS AFTER A GAME STARTED THEN WHEN IT LOSES SAY O.K. YOU HAD ACTION AND I AM STEALING YOUR 660 DOLLARS

SBR JOHN IS FULL OF SHIT

[jjgold]

Lenny was one tough Jew

Lenny was drinking champagne during game waiting to see what would happen with Jimmy's bet

If it won he would of voided bet

[SBR_John]

HEY SBR JOHN IT WASNT A COUPLE OF MINUTES IT WAS 20 MINUTES YOU KNOW WHO TOOK THE SHOT IT WAS LENNY BECAUSE HE WAS HOLDING MY MONEY.

And how did you know this? Because maybe you were watching it on TV. It's called past posting or simply shot taking.

Secondly the reason you feel the need to embellish your story with the lenny yelling fib is you know you were shot taking. Everyone who looked at your case determined you waited until the end of the game to let anyone know. If you would have won you would have been paid. You were the shot taker and liar and still are.

[TheCentaur]

I paid off the transsexual midget hooker that JJ likes to gather some intel and this is what he/she gave me:

Picture of JJ's desk in his room

[ByeShea]

Sorry, two different people.

Beantown Jim has a poet's soul.

jjgold is a street urchin. I wish him well, but he doesn't even deserve to meet BTJ.

[Inkwell77]

And how did you know this? Because maybe you were watching it on TV. It's called past posting or simply shot taking.

Secondly the reason you feel the need to embellish your story with the lenny yelling fib is you know you were shot taking. Everyone who looked at your case determined you waited until the end of the game to let anyone know. If you would have won you would have been paid. You were the shot taker and liar and still are.

I know absolutely nothing about this situation, but this seems VERY hard to believe. Pinnacle is the only online book that I have heard that will actually pay these type of shots out, and when they do pay a shot taker out, that person is then banned from using the book.
The percentages indicate BTJ would probably not have been paid.

[BEANTOWNJIM]

SBR JOHN THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO SIDED WITH LENNY WAS THE PEOPLE HE WAS PAYING END OF STORY

HOW WOULD THIS HAVE BEEN GRADED AT ANY SPORTSBOOK EXCEPT CASCADE SBR JOHN.


TRY AND PUT IN A BET 20 MINUTES AFTER A GAME STARTED IN VEGAS IT WOULD BE VOIDED BEFORE HALFTIME NO ACTION AND YOUR MONEY REFUNDED.IF I HAD WON THAT BET LENNY WOUKLD HAVE BEEN SCREAMING I PAST POSTED HIM BY 20 MINUTES AND HE NEVER WOULD HAVE PAID THE BET SO F-CK OFF SBR JOHN YOU FRAUD

P.S. IS LENNY STILL YELLING AT YOU SBR JOHN

[shari91]

I know absolutely nothing about this situation, but this seems VERY hard to believe. Pinnacle is the only online book that I have heard that will actually pay these type of shots out, and when they do pay a shot taker out, that person is then banned from using the book.
The percentages indicate BTJ would probably not have been paid.

Centrebet will also do it either way win or lose. Not sure of others although I've been paid from Sportingbet as well... one intentionally on my part a few years ago, the rest not so much. Won a couple, lost a few that way there. Even though I've told them for 18mths they're lax mf'ers. These are the only two I have experience with. In fact CentreBet has it in their rules but their site's undergoing maintenance so I can't post it

[jjgold]

Rules are rules
If you make a bet after game has started the bet is voided

Lenny erased the rules and was paying Russ 3k per month to keep it quiet

Jimmy got fukker here

[shari91]

SBR JOHN THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO SIDED WITH LENNY WAS THE PEOPLE HE WAS PAYING END OF STORY

HOW WOULD THIS HAVE BEEN GRADED AT ANY SPORTSBOOK EXCEPT CASCADE SBR JOHN.


TRY AND PUT IN A BET 20 MINUTES AFTER A GAME STARTED IN VEGAS IT WOULD BE VOIDED BEFORE HALFTIME NO ACTION AND YOUR MONEY REFUNDED.IF I HAD WON THAT BET LENNY WOUKLD HAVE BEEN SCREAMING I PAST POSTED HIM BY 20 MINUTES AND HE NEVER WOULD HAVE PAID THE BET SO F-CK OFF SBR JOHN YOU FRAUD

P.S. IS LENNY STILL YELLING AT YOU SBR JOHN

No, the difference is: Try to place a bet 20 minutes after a game has started in Vegas, it wouldn't have been accepted 99% of the time.

You're betting online however many yrs ago and comparing them to Vegas? Come on now. People are still posting about how they're trying to take shots at online books based on time differentials of 8 seconds in 2012. Again... in 2012. So you're saying in 1942 you didn't know you were past posting 20 minutes after the fact? GL

[BigDaddy]

Books in those days sometimes left games up for a few extra minutes.

some books still do

[manny24]

founding fathers at war in this thread.

[wantitall4moi]

And how did you know this? Because maybe you were watching it on TV. It's called past posting or simply shot taking.

Secondly the reason you feel the need to embellish your story with the lenny yelling fib is you know you were shot taking. Everyone who looked at your case determined you waited until the end of the game to let anyone know. If you would have won you would have been paid. You were the shot taker and liar and still are.

Regardless of whether or not he took a shot, Cascade changed/erased their specific on point rule in regards to what Jim did. so IMO BOTH sides took a shot, best thing they could have done was forget it and refund the money. That didnt happen. Also no way in hell if he had won would he have been paid he would have been given a refund more than likely.

It was a shit book anyway, they always left games up way too long. So they are rinky dink at best as they couldnt afford software that could tell time or anyone to watch and make sure they took games down after they had started. Or he just left them up that long on purpose to screw people who didnt know any better. Or a little bit of all that. The gambler is expected to take a shot because theyre degenerates. the book is supposed to be a BUSINESS that is supposed to have safe guards and rules in effect to answer these issues. They changed their rules during this whole thing therefore they knew the rule was bad or wrong and changed it to make sure they could keep his money.

If they didnt want him taking shots they shouldnt have left the game up so long. If they were going to use the rules they had and cancelled the play they should have done it before the game was over and a loss. But they used their own ineptitude and ability to grade wagers in a timely manner as an excuse as to why that didnt happen. BOTH sides were wrong, Cascade was just monumentally more wrong, and they covered it up which shows they themselves knew they were wrong.

End of discussion.

Any watchdog site or site that claims to be a watchdog site that backs cascade in any way shape or form is a total joke.

[BEANTOWNJIM]

HEY SBR JOHN DID YOU JUST READ WHAT WANTIALLFORMOI JUST SAID AND HE IS AN OLDTIMER WHO REMEMBERS MY CASE.

THAT WAS WELL SAID WANTITALL SBR JOHN KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED HE JUST DIDNT HAVE THE BALLS TO STICK UP TO LENNY BECAUSE HE WAS TRYING TO LAND HIS ADVERTISING MONEY

LETS NOT FORGET SBR JOHN ACTUALLY REWARDED LENNY AND CASCADE AND MADE THEM A (B+ GRADING) EVEN AFTER THEY ROBBED ME SO WE KNOW LENNY PAID OFF SBR JOHN

NOBODY TAKES A BET 20 MINUTES AFTER A GAME STARTS PERIOD.THEY BROKE THERE OWN WRITTEN RULES AND SBR JOHN THOUGHT THAT WAS FINE

THE ONLY THING SBR JOHN WAS WATCHING WAS HIS WALLET (WATCHDOG MY ARSE)

[jjgold]

Walker had nothing to do with the payoffs

Russy was being payed off as was Kenny

Jimmy we are wining the battle NOW

WANTY a respected long time poster validated us

Lenny erased the rules after the game and I caught him

Walker send Jimmy and I $300 each for our suffering

Will will settle for that

[BEANTOWNJIM]

YAH THE MONEY COMPENSATION WOULD BE NICE BUT I WANT TO HEAR SBR JOHN SAY HE LIED AND ACCEPTED MONEY FROM LENNY TO KEEP HIS SPORTSBOOK RATING SO HIGH.HOW COULD SBR GIVE CASCADE A B+ RATING SBR JOHN NEVER ANSWERED THAT SBR JOHN GOT A NICE KICK BACK FROM LENNY THATS FOR SURE

WANTITALLFOMOI IS ONE OF THE SMARTEST GUYS IN ANY FORUM I AM SHOCKED HE NEVER BECAME A MODERATOR HE WOULD BE A GREAT ONE BECAUSE HE IS WELL SPOKEN AND HAS A FANTASTIC MEMORY

THIS WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST SCANDELS IN OFFSHORE HISTORY AND IT WAS ALL CAUGHT ON TAPE WE ALL SAW LENNY AND CASCADE SPORTSBOOK ERASE THERE OWN WRITTEN RULES

COME CLEAN SBR JOHN WE KNOW YOU PROFITTED OFF MY ROBBING

[TheCentaur]

I know a local named Leonard who told me he used to book online, specializing in live NBA betting. You want me to teach him a lesson BTJ?

[jjgold]

Jimmy ..Walker is clean

He is the most honest man I know although he does owe us each $300 for our suffering

[milwaukee mike]

wow come on john

btj has called you a liar, thief, and fraud in this thread and not been punished?

i think almost everyone here would side with john, if you bet a game 20 minutes after it starts and you consider yourself a sharp bettor, YOU KNEW THE GAME STARTED 20 MINUTES EARLIER and were shot-taking

the racist schtick was old years ago, no idea why btj hasn't been banned

[jjgold]

Mike rules are rules

Jimmy should of gotten money back period, it does not matter when he made the bet

Walker owes Jimmy and I $300 for our suffering

I was in the middle of it and moderated it and got squashed by big corporates in on the take

Walker was a kid then and not involved

[milwaukee mike]

yeah rules are rules but there are limits to how long you can complain about it

can't do anything about being robbed years later - even ARMED robbery usually has a 3 year statute of limitations