SBR contests/ Beat the Prick, whose ready?

[jon13009]

Wow, I was just getting hyped up about the Prick contest this year, and it seems SBR has made some major changes.

I knew last year's BTP was too good to be true, and the "New Requirements" for this year's BTP pretty much confirms that. Clearly SBR needs to appease their on-line contest book sponsors, and, while it may be a necessity, it is clearly a shame.

I just opened a New Account at Bookmaker for the SBR on-line poker tournaments (no deposit required), and now I have to open another "NEW" account to enter this year's BTP and Deposit $100?.........and next year, will I will have to open ANOTHER new account at another new book?

At that point, while I was still debating the risks and benefits of entering the BTP, the most ominous rule was spelled out: The winnings are to be deposited in the newly opened book and subjected to a 5x rollover prior to access. Too much of a hassle versus a nice free - and no 5x rollover - check from SBR last year.

The BTP contest last year was a blast, and can be improved, but SBR is moving in the WRONG direction with these new requirements, and as set up it is unlikely as many will participate as last year (perhaps as a benefit to the diehards willing to submit to these rather -IMO- outrageous entry and tagged 5x rollover winnings requirements).

[MonkeyF0cker]

Yeah I am a bit disappointed myself. It doesn't look like I will be eligible for the BTP contest this year as I have accounts through every one of these books. I don't understand why funding a book that a member signed up with through SBR previously isn't equivically sufficient. Unless the sponsers prefer to have empty accounts just sitting there unfunded, how is there a difference? SBR would surely still reap commissions and their sponsors would still see the same returns (and probably more since the current ruleset isn't condusive to every potential player).

[Dark Horse]

BTP was a blast in the past, when you could win with 3-1. But with far more participants it's basically turned into a 4-team parlay contest. If you get 100 bucks for winning a 4-teamer, then SBR gives you 1/10th or 1/12th, based on various odds, to play each week. Let's make it 10 bucks a week. Fourteen weeks playing BTP is worth 140 dollars spend on 4-team parlays. Not counting the final prizes at the end. If somebody gave me $140 to play at a book where I would normally not play, would I do it? No.

[Sean]

BoDog is still on the list, right???

When you put BoDog on a list with BetJam, BookMaker, 5Dimes, and Legendz, it looks like a whore in church!

And you KNOW what I'm saying is true!!!!

Doc

Bodog was removed as a contest sponsor several days ago ... they are not listed on the sportsbook signup page nor on the front page list of sponsors. Unfortunately, we overlooked their "mention" on a couple of interior pages ... that will be addressed this morning.

In the meantime, we're trying to bring on a handful of additional sponsors AND, within the next 24 hours, we will address the issue of the recent new, unfunded accounts that many have just opened for some of the other contests.

Stand by for more news ASAP.

[Dark Horse]

SBR has become starbuckified. Confusing growth with an over-emphasis on window dressing and unimportant stuff. Getting away from what made them great. If this were a stock I would now short it.

As soon as the first book that goes down is one that SBR linked people to, SBR has lost its credibility. And by adding books to 'the list' that risk only increases. Bodog and Cascade came down from the A list in the past couple of years. Why would SBR even go here? I have no idea, but I no longer trust the management (to the point where I would invest in the stock, that is).

[dwaechte]

DH, I'm not sure where you stand on this issue? Care to jam up the thread with more thoughts? I mean, I really don't understand whether you like the new BTP format or not.


Seriously, voice your displeasure once, make your points, and let it go.

Although I don't see why they can't change it from "new" sportsbooks to just any sportsbook where it's the INITITAL deposit, I love that the new format will keep the non-gamblers out. That being said, I planned on funding about 5 new books this week anyways.

[max_asdf]

can you deposit and withdrawl right away!??! i havent read any of the rules but just a question

i dont need so many books to play at, pinnacle is enough

[Doc JS]

Bodog was removed as a contest sponsor several days ago ... they are not listed on the sportsbook signup page nor on the front page list of sponsors. Unfortunately, we overlooked their "mention" on a couple of interior pages ... that will be addressed this morning.

In the meantime, we're trying to bring on a handful of additional sponsors AND, within the next 24 hours, we will address the issue of the recent new, unfunded accounts that many have just opened for some of the other contests.

Stand by for more news ASAP.

Sean,

Contestants are required to open a NEW sportsbook account with one of the following sponsors (in accordance with the rules and policies of each book) and make a minimum deposit of $100 (pre-existing accounts do not qualify):
Bookmaker
DSI
Legendz
Bodog
BetJamaica
5Dimes
The Pig
BetCRIS
Las Palmas
Intertops

I'm not sure when BoDog was removed as a sponsor, but I copied this information DIRECTLY off the BTP rules page YESTERDAY!!!

Doc

[Sean]

Doc ... as I stated, they were removed last week from the sportsbook signup page and the front page list of sponsors. Unfortunately, we overlooked their "mention" on a couple of interior pages ... one of which would be the BTP rules page you reference.

[Doc JS]

Doc ... as I stated, they were removed last week from the sportsbook signup page and the front page list of sponsors. Unfortunately, we overlooked their "mention" on a couple of interior pages ... one of which would be the BTP rules page you reference.

Thanks, Sean...you're the best!!

Doc

[biggamer3]

Good things dont last forever, this contest will never be the same, but there is nothing better than kicking the fatass Prick's Ass, so count me in

[ShamsWoof10]

I like all the changes except for the NEW accounts idea... That is very very stupid and can create problems for posters along the way.... When you have posters signing up for NEW accounts at the same books then you expose them to violating the Terms & Agreements and gives the book a legit reason to screw the player.... You could say they should know better but as HHog has proven; posters will try it anyway if the software allows it regardless of the Terms & Agreements for the free money then cry foul afterwards...

Get your head out of your as* SBR!!! If you want to stop the ghost issue, which is a good idea even though SBR is the biggest ghost whore, all you have to do is ask each poster to have his/her wagering account at one or more of these books "VERIFIED"... as in identity and location...

I was going to RIP SBR all day today if they kept Bodog up... You guys know how I feel about SBR's double standards...

[MonkeyF0cker]

The design is not nearly as much of a ghosting prevention as it is a revenue generating method. This rule is in place to pay for the contest. The increased difficulty of ghosting in the contest is merely an added bonus...

[cap10]

imo it will be very hard to win the 5000/wk ;; in many weeks the prick will go 4-0 and nobody wins;; also if best record is tie with the prick and nobody wins ;; and after all that its 5x rollover;;
the only plus side is that if u are say 1 out of 4 who go 4-0 u can grab a nice chunk of the 5g a week

also is it allowable to ask you're existing book to close an old acct and open a new one????

[seaborneq]

Those of us who are going to do the BTP are going to jump through the hoops. Those of us who disagree with any part of the signup process should not jump through the same hoops. Let's stop bitching and complaining and wait to see where this goes after SBR gets the feedback thus far. Frankly, the more good players eliminated from the signup process the more likely the books will make even more money because the casual gambler is not going to beat the prick once.

[Doc JS]

in many weeks the prick will go 4-0 and nobody wins...

You're new around here aren't ya???

Prick going 4-0 is analogus to a blind pig finding an acorn every once in a great while!

Yep, he'll go 4-0 about twice in the coming season...The rest of the time, we're taking his candy!!!!

also is it allowable to ask you're existing book to close an old acct and open a new one????

I asked CrazyL the same question last night and NEVER COULD GET A STRAIGHT ANSWER. I suspect he was waiting on everyone to get back from the bash.

As I said earlier in this thread...I don't think SBR anticipated this kind of blowback. If they did anticipate it, and went ahead with it anyway, they're not as smart as I've been giving them credit for being. Time will tell...

SBR will either make some sort of exception for those of us who want to use sponsor books where we have accounts but for one reason or another (like the 128 man handicapper tourney) haven't funded or they won't. Then everyone will make their decision about what they're going to do next and life will go on...


Doc

[SBR Lou]

Agreed, going 4-0 ATS is no common feat, even the sharps need a little bit of lady luck to accomplish this with any form of consistency. That's why winning the contest is all the more special.

[tblues2005]

Thanks CrazyL.

Do you think there will be another football contest also after the 14th week? I think it would be a good idea for a playoff contest maybe.

[SBR Lou]

Thanks CrazyL.

Do you think there will be another football contest also after the 14th week? I think it would be a good idea for a playoff contest maybe.

There may, depends on if you guys behave all year.

There will be something fun going on during the playoffs for sure.

[cap10]

doc
no i'm not new;; finished 3rd last yr btp;; but now that so much cash/week is on the line i expect the prick to have a stellar record;;; i am sure efforts will be made to make sure the prick goes 4-0 at least 7 times this yr;; it is very doable

ps;; woulda finished 2nnd but sea went to atl and threw their last game; but i realize luck cuts both ways

[durito]

doc
no i'm not new;; finished 3rd last yr btp;; but now that so much cash/week is on the line i expect the prick to have a stellar record;;; i am sure efforts will be made to make sure the prick goes 4-0 at least 7 times this yr;; it is very doable

I hear the prick is working on his NFL models right now.

[Mudcat]

Looks like I'm in agreement with the consensus in disliking the stipulations. I wouldn't be eligible for the contest right now due to already having accounts at all the books.

As I have played at all the top books over the years, I'm sure my situation will remain the same when new eligible books are added. Unless some of them are going to be more obscure, non-top books. Which wouldn't be SBR's normal style.

Shades of the old "Rookie Program" at TOW, for anyone who remembers that fiasco. I hope we're not going in that direction.

And I strongly suspect we're not and I will simply be ineligible. Not a big deal if I miss a contest but BTP has been the one contest I have paid attention to over the years so I thought I would add my voice to the feedback.

[cap10]

another thot;; i don't mind opening a new acct at say 5dimes but that means the deposits that would normally go to my bjam etc acct is now gone to 5dimes ;; so it helps some sponsors but hurts others;;
i don't see why the sponsors would do this;; rob peter to pay paul

[Dark Horse]

dwaechte, just put me on ignore buddy.

I asked SBR in this thread if they would guarantee the funds of players who deposited to a new book through one of their contest-links (with the fates of Cascade and Bodog in mind). No answer so far. So I'll just keep bringing up the issue, in one form or another, until someone responds. As annoying as that may be.

[biggamer3]

dwaechte, just put me on ignore buddy.

I asked SBR in this thread if they would guarantee the funds of players who deposited to a new book through one of their contest-links (with the fates of Cascade and Bodog in mind). No answer so far. So I'll just keep bringing up the issue, in one form or another, until someone responds. As annoying as that may be.

SBR wont guarentee anything, not worth it from their end.

They realize the fvcked up with Bodog, let it slide and only deposit in a safe book

[Doc JS]

I just herad back from CrazyL...

Hi Doc,

I can now answer your queries with greater detail. If you opened an account for one of our sponsors for the 128 Man, and have not yet funded, then for SBR contests you need only to fund it now, provide your account details and you'll have 4 contest credits (BTP, MLB, NBA, NCAAB) that will get you through the year without needing another signup.

Sorry that I couldn't better assist you sooner, but this new revision was just recently made.

Best of luck in the contest.
CrazyL

Doc

[jon13009]

BTP exemptions

Since we are talking modifications and exemptions to this year's BTP.....

How about exemptions for those who finished in the money (or top 50) in last year's BTP contest final standings regarding the $100 deposit but recently signed up for a new account?

[Dark Horse]

SBR wont guarentee anything, not worth it from their end.

They realize the fvcked up with Bodog, let it slide and only deposit in a safe book

I already have accounts at those books. But that's not really the point.

The problem, to me, is that SBR has turned the corner from informing the public about books to actively recruiting clients for books. They sold out, and are now Sports Book Recruiting. A very sad day.

This shift is not without legal risks. SBR is now actively promoting gambling.

And, as already mentioned, they can only hope not to ever run into a Cascade or Bodog scenario with one of the books on the list.

Talk about a can of worms.

[nep1293]

***Saw answer in other post, never mind***

For clarification. Does the Bookmaker account I opened last week for the 128 contest count as a new account? I haven't funded it yet. Also can i get the bonus from SBR on top of a bonus I was already offered from Bookmaker?

[mr. leisure]

I`M SIGNED UP AT LAS PALMAS ,GOT MY E-MAIL VERIFICATION AND READY TO GO

[BrentCrude]

I just signed up with Las Palmas because it's the only listed place I don't have an account with.Just wondering if I deposit the $100 now and follow all the rules where I won't be getting a bonus if I can withdraw the original $100 after a month?I think it was ok to do that with Bet Cris 2 years ago.

If anyone does the same exact thing and has contacted Las Palmas where they said you can do this,post it here.Thanks!

[mr. leisure]

I just signed up with Las Palmas because it's the only listed place I don't have an account with.Just wondering if I deposit the $100 now and follow all the rules where I won't be getting a bonus if I can withdraw the original $100 after a month?I think it was ok to do that with Bet Cris 2 years ago.

If anyone does the same exact thing and has contacted Las Palmas where they said you can do this,post it here.Thanks!

All DEPOSITS and additional bonuses will be subject to a 5x rollover as well as the Terms and Conditions of the sponsoring sportsbook.

This is out of the rules,looks like a 5 time rollover on the deposit

[cap10]

sbr
is it allowed to join this contest in week 3 or 4 ?? the yr end prizes don't concern me cause they are a lot smaller this yr;; but once the teams show true coulors i might be able to put the hammer down vs the prick

[SBR Lou]

sbr
is it allowed to join this contest in week 3 or 4 ?? the yr end prizes don't concern me cause they are a lot smaller this yr;; but once the teams show true coulors i might be able to put the hammer down vs the prick

Yes, you can join later on but be aware you may not accumulate enough points for the year ending prizes as you referenced. You can still square off for the weekly prizes though.

[BigDaddy]

ok i opened up new account and funded it today. when do they let you know you are in the contest?



thank you