The SBR pre election vote - Obama vs Gingrich

[Hotdiggity11]

Obama's pulling away.

[FrozenMAN]

this poll CLEARLY shows why america is falling apart....52 fucktards vote for the king brotha???? WHAT ARE YOU THINKING!!!

just keep sitting at home you lazy ***** and suckin on allus hard workers to pay for you to pop out kids and get it all for free....**** YOU ALL!

[Salmon Steak]

Ron Paul

[tblues2005]

From what I have seen with the tea party I will take Obama over any GOP candidate. I just cannot see any of these clowns doing any better.

[jw]

This whole pay-roll tax thing is just complete bull shit, and is for political points. it is doing nothing to help the economy, it comes down to a few bucks each week

It actually works out to be around $1000-$1500 for the average family ...

Do the math for your own circumstances here :

http://www.barackobama.com/tax-calculator/

[ACoochy]

this poll CLEARLY shows why america is falling apart....52 fucktards vote for the king brotha???? WHAT ARE YOU THINKING!!! just keep sitting at home you lazy ***** and suckin on allus hard workers to pay for you to pop out kids and get it all for free....**** YOU ALL!

[ACoochy]

OP getting buried in his own thread....Fukkin irony we all know where johnnies allegiances lie when it comes to the issue at hand...

[Optional]

this poll CLEARLY shows why america is falling apart....52 fucktards vote for the king brotha???? WHAT ARE YOU THINKING!!!

That the angry loud minority trying to convince themselves Obama is devil incarnate will lose again.

[Andy117]

It actually works out to be around $1000-$1500 for the average family ...

Do the math for your own circumstances here :

http://www.barackobama.com/tax-calculator/

It'll cost me about $3500.

[Inkwell77]

That the angry loud minority trying to convince themselves Obama is devil incarnate will lose again.

I don't even really like Obama from a policies viewpoint, but to think Newt or Romney is the answer or even a step up is crazy.
Did these people not live during the Bush presidency and see how much crazy shiz happened?? There is nothing that will make me vote for a run of the mill republican. If Paul gets the nomination I would seriously consider voting for him.

[FourLengthsClear]

Exactly but neither party really wants to address the issue....

It is a runaway train that can't be stopped.

The debate on tax/spending is a pseudo-debate, A sledgehammer is needed not the two or three scalpels. Obliterating welfare entitlement programs, deep cuts to military spending, ending special interest ties and other pork-barrel costs are political suicide for both sides.

[mrmarket]

Surprising things in this thread:
1) People actually think their opinions matter. If you don't have money for lobbying/a power base your opinion isn't worth shit.
2) People still believe there is a difference between Republican and Democratic ruling parties?
3) People willingly follow politics instead of viewing some other form of entertainment
4) People believe Ron Paul will actually change things if elected. I suspect if it happens lame duck will be renamed Ron Pauled.
5) How effective propaganda is. I suspect many don't even realize they are being manipulated.

The next presidency will be unremarkable. Status quo will be retained because it's best for business. You may get something to appease the disenfranchised majority like the UAE dolled out. It won't happen until one of those retarded occupy hipsters shoots a businessman though. Even then they might just move to HK/Singapore and wash their hands of the whole affair looting the coffers from afar.

[FourLengthsClear]

Surprising things in this thread:
1) People actually think their opinions matter. If you don't have money for lobbying/a power base your opinion isn't worth shit.
2) People still believe there is a difference between Republican and Democratic ruling parties?
3) People willingly follow politics instead of viewing some other form of entertainment
4) People believe Ron Paul will actually change things if elected. I suspect if it happens lame duck will be renamed Ron Pauled.
5) How effective propaganda is. I suspect many don't even realize they are being manipulated.

The next presidency will be unremarkable. Status quo will be retained because it's best for business. You may get something to appease the disenfranchised majority like the UAE dolled out. It won't happen until one of those retarded occupy hipsters shoots a businessman though. Even then they might just move to HK/Singapore and wash their hands of the whole affair looting the coffers from afar.

Quite.

The only thing I would say is that regardless of what you think about the message/views of the "retarded" OWS people (and the same can be said for the Tea Party) is that at least they have cottoned-on to the truth that the political system is broken.

[mrmarket]

Quite.

The only thing I would say is that regardless of what you think about the message/views of the "retarded" OWS people (and the same can be said for the Tea Party) is that at least they have cottoned-on to the truth that the political system is broken.

Tea party is retarded. Occupy Wall Street is retarded. They are segregated into groups - Tea Party vs. Occupy Wall Street because it's easier for people to understand. Once they are grouped they have become manageable tools for whatever story that needs to be told. They are actors in a game and nothing more. It's all propaganda and it's all being manipulated. There is no such thing political struggle whatsoever.

OWS may have identified that the game is rigged but they still believe they can change things (they cannot). They are fighting an amorphous blob that adapts to whatever conditions currently exist. The only good idea OWS had was to challenge the concept of a corporate entity legally but it was doomed from the start. Like one black guy walking into a KKK meeting trying to put a stop to racism. The justice system has been bought and paid for. And even if the it were to succeed capital is so liquid it would just move overseas along with whoever owns it. The sheer force of their wealth means they are prepared for every eventuality. You either have to align yourself with their interests or you put a gun to their head and pull the trigger. There is no middle ground.

So things will continue as usual with the proletariat occasionally paying up when things go "wrong" because it's a tailored time palatable enough to withdraw from the ATM without much upheaval.

[andywend]

SBR is filled with people who get something for nothing in the form of SBR points and still complain that SBR is somehow robbing them with their casino and claiming that SBR trivia is too hard.

Its no surprise that Obama is leading based on votes from SBR posters.

JW, you have NOT paid a nickels worth of income tax since you moved to the U.S. 10 years ago and you have admitted as such. Therefore, any comments you have regarding taxes and who should be paying more CARRY NO WEIGHT WHATSOEVER until you start paying your fair share.

Obama is trading right at 50/50 to win the Presidential election in 2012 @ Intrade where 650,000 $10 contracts have traded on the 2012 presidential race. If you're the challenger, then 50% is a GREAT NUMBER when you're a full year away from the election. With that being said, if you're the incumbent as is the case with Obama, 50% is a TERRIBLE number to be at as President Bush was trading at 65% in December 2003 when fighting for his 2nd term (which he won in a squeaker over Kerry).

While the Obama BUMS still think he will win the election easily, the numbers tell an entirely different story.

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The democrats look FAR WORSE when it comes to the senate and house control as they are HUGE DOGS to control either the senate or the house.

Democratic Senate Control:

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Democratic House Control

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[smoke a bowl]

Ok, maybe let's try out Romney vs Obama. I'd say try Paul out but he has 0% chance to be the nominee.

[FourLengthsClear]

Tea party is retarded. Occupy Wall Street is retarded. They are segregated into groups - Tea Party vs. Occupy Wall Street because it's easier for people to understand. Once they are grouped they have become manageable tools for whatever story that needs to be told. They are actors in a game and nothing more. It's all propaganda and it's all being manipulated. There is no such thing political struggle whatsoever.

OWS may have identified that the game is rigged but they still believe they can change things (they cannot). They are fighting an amorphous blob that adapts to whatever conditions currently exist. The only good idea OWS had was to challenge the concept of a corporate entity legally but it was doomed from the start. Like one black guy walking into a KKK meeting trying to put a stop to racism. The justice system has been bought and paid for. And even if the it were to succeed capital is so liquid it would just move overseas along with whoever owns it. The sheer force of their wealth means they are prepared for every eventuality. You either have to align yourself with their interests or you put a gun to their head and pull the trigger. There is no middle ground.

So things will continue as usual with the proletariat occasionally paying up when things go "wrong" because it's a tailored time palatable enough to withdraw from the ATM without much upheaval.

I can't really argue with that.

The "debate" in this thread is like a couple in their car bickering about whether they should be in the right lane, the centre lane or the left lane when the real problem is that they are on the wrong road entirely.

[Wrecktangle]

If America votes Newt in, it deserves the screwing it will get...

...then again, you voted in W for a second term; dumbsh*t all!

[Facepunch]

I am voting for Ron Paul regardless of the nominees.

Newtie would be worse for the country than another Obama admin.

[No coincidences]

this poll CLEARLY shows why america is falling apart....52 fucktards vote for the king brotha???? WHAT ARE YOU THINKING!!!

just keep sitting at home you lazy ***** and suckin on allus hard workers to pay for you to pop out kids and get it all for free....**** YOU ALL!

A viable Republican candidate would crush Obama.

It's sad that this once-proud and now totally-dysfunctional entity is going to trot either Newt or Mitt out there to get beat by a very beatable opponent. Of all the people on the planet, this is the best they can come up with. That speaks volumes.

[PhillyFlyers]

this poll CLEARLY shows why america is falling apart....52 fucktards vote for the king brotha???? WHAT ARE YOU THINKING!!!

just keep sitting at home you lazy ***** and suckin on allus hard workers to pay for you to pop out kids and get it all for free....**** YOU ALL!

What you retard neocons fail to understand is that the country is opposed to lying, hypocritical, warmongering, adulterers, bought and paid for politicians who don't have a clue.

Didn't you nitwits learn anything the first time around with McCain? You tried to give the country a horrible candidate like McCain and now you want us to elect someone who's even worse than McCain in Gingrich.
Gingrich is a POS.

[smoke a bowl]

Man I really want to post in this thread again but I'm scared Shari is watching and I can't afford to lose anymore points.

[SBR_John]

If America votes Newt in, it deserves the screwing it will get...

...then again, you voted in W for a second term; dumbsh*t all!

I guess we got what we deserved with Obama too.

We could really use a JFK or Reagan about now.

[opie1988]

I get the strong suspicion that there's several foreigners posting in this thread.

Let's make one thing REAL clear......

if you're not allowed to cast a vote for the next US President - then we couldn't give two fukks what you think!!

As you were, men.

[PhillyFlyers]

I guess we got what we deserved with Obama too.

We could really use a JFK or Reagan about now.

We have someone who would be better than both JFK and Reagan.

A modern day founding father.

His name is Ron Paul and he's the champion of the Constitution.

[smoke a bowl]

I have a weird suspicion that Phillyflyers might vote Ron Paul if given the chance.

[GUMMO77]

I don't even think Gingrich will get the nomination. For one, I don't think that pillsbury dough boy of a human wants to run. He already took a vacation during the campaigning that helped him relieve, errrrr, have staffers quit on his ass. Another thing is his campaign is heavily in debt. Romney is taking in a lot more money, and is also starting to spend a lot more cash on advertising. I have a sneaky feeling Newt is going to self implode his own campaign.

[GUMMO77]

We have someone who would be better than both JFK and Reagan.

A modern day founding father.

His name is Ron Paul and he's the champion of the Constitution.

Philly - I like a lot of things Paul stands for, but no matter how hard he tries he's not getting the nomination.

[Facepunch]

Romney is the Goldman Sachs candidate 75% of all Goldman Funds are going to him. They are hedging bigtime if their golden boy Obama gets the axe.

[PhillyFlyers]

Philly - I like a lot of things Paul stands for, but no matter how hard he tries he's not getting the nomination.

But that's only your opinion. If he wins Iowa he's getting the nomination.

[jjgold]

anyone voting for Obama has to be such a dumb poor fukk

Only ones that vote for him are minorities and people that do not want to work

He destroyed this country

[GUMMO77]

If he wins Iowa he's getting the nomination.

That is an opinion.

[smoke a bowl]

But that's only your opinion. If he wins Iowa he's getting the nomination.

Cmon mayn, don't be ridirkulous.

[No coincidences]

I guess we got what we deserved with Obama too.

We could really use a JFK or Reagan about now.

Why? So that big business can take over? So that deregulation allows corporations to run rampant? Oh wait -- that already happened.

A lot of the mess we're in right now is because of Reagan. I've never understood why we lionize this corporate puppet so much as a country.

[No coincidences]

anyone voting for Obama has to be such a dumb poor fukk

Only ones that vote for him are minorities and people that do not want to work

He destroyed this country

This country was "destroyed" long before Obama. He expedited the process in a lot of aspects, but in many ways, the POTUS is now an irrelevant figure and nothing more than a pawn in the back pocket of corporate America.