Michelle Wie even thru 10

[freeVICK]

on the golf channel right now

[freeVICK]

shes playing in the reno tahoe open (a PGA event) for those of you who didnt no

[smitch124]

yes, total scrubs...even Robert Gamez got in and he hasn't made a putt longer than 5 feet since the 90s.

[durito]

good thing she's playing this tourney

since she has NO STATUS on any female tour in the world

[max_asdf]

is even doing good? not following this tourny

[max_asdf]

but michelle wie is good.. i have faith in her

[englishmike]

Shouldn't be allowed. Somewhere there is a golfer sat doing nothing when he could have played in this third class event and earned a decent check because his spot was given to a woman golfer who can't even win on her own tour and is missing a MAJOR to do this. If she was serious about her career she'd be with the top 50 women trying to win the Ladies British Open but she's got no bottle. Hope she shoots 100.

[durito]

it's no longer that she can't win on the female tour.

she can't even get on the tour. if you can't get status on the lpga challenge tour, you really shouldn't be playing a pga event. if lorena ochoa wants to play this week, fine (hell she'd probably win). but wie should figure out how to even get on the lpga tour for starters

she's shooting alright now, but the 82 in the pro-am yesterday was beat by a few of the high rollers paying to play

[englishmike]

Exactly. And it makes you wonder just how powerful NIKE are because if they hadn't shelled out 10M a year ago it makes you wonder if she'd have the leverage.

[pokernut9999]

If she is so bad , why does she have 9 top 10's in Majors at the young age of 18 ?

[englishmike]

Post her form for the last 18 months.

[durito]

Exactly. And it makes you wonder just how powerful NIKE are because if they hadn't shelled out 10M a year ago it makes you wonder if she'd have the leverage.

i understand why the sponsers invite her.

she brings in people (or at least used to)

my friends in the field this week and he says it's the weakest field tour even ever, so obviously they need some attractions.

[pokernut9999]

Post her form for the last 18 months.

She broke her wrist and tried to play too soon. Do you guys even keep up with golf ?

[englishmike]

I understand the attractions argument and this tournament will get 1000% more coverage because of Wie, i just think it sends the wrong message to bread and butter golfers who are on the bubble between club pro and tour pro.

[durito]

If she is so bad , why does she have 9 top 10's in Majors at the young age of 18 ?

for one, she doesn't. she has 7. and none for 3 years.

second, no one is saying she sucks. just that when you are not good enough at the moment to even earn status on the lpga tour (meaning you aren't one of the top 150 women in the world) you definitely should not be trying to play mens events.

golf is not like basketball where you can have one great year sign a huge contract and be consider a star for 10 years even though you blow ass. you have to keep playing well and qualifying or you are off the tour.

[max_asdf]

i dont understand why give up a major

[englishmike]

She broke her wrist and tried to play too soon. Do you guys even keep up with golf ?

yeah, i posted the 50-1 leader of the Bridgestone on this forum last night.

[max_asdf]

michelle wie is good.. .but she needs manager .. not her dad T+T

[max_asdf]

she tried to come back too soon played poorly....

[pokernut9999]

I understand the attractions argument and this tournament will get 1000% more coverage because of Wie, i just think it sends the wrong message to bread and butter golfers who are on the bubble between club pro and tour pro.

So the same rules do not apply to these guys ? If they were worth a crap they would not need this tournament to try and keep their card.

Sponsors spend millions on their tournament and they have the right to invite who ever they want.

[durito]

She broke her wrist and tried to play too soon. Do you guys even keep up with golf ?

Yes I follow it seriously and have friends playing in this tournament.


Her wrist has been fine for quite sometime. Again, I'm not criticizing her play, but rather where and when she decides to play.

Tiger Woods won 500 junior tournaments between ages 12 and 18. He could've been out there missing cuts at PGA events, instead he was learning how to win.

Lorena Ochoa could've turned pro before college, she didn't won 15 events in two years, turned pro, earned her way on the LPGA tour by winning on the challenge tour, and is now the best player in the world.

Michele Wie is just a sideshow that needs sponsors exemptions to even get in tournaments. Those exemptions will dry up one day.

[durito]

So the same rules do not apply to these guys ? If they were worth a crap they would not need this tournament to try and keep their card.

**** you asshole -- you try competing out there right now.

[pokernut9999]

i dont understand why give up a major

Why travel that far to try and qualify ? Long way to travel for a 1 day qualifer if you do not make it. Any money won there would not help in her attempt for a LPGA card.

[pokernut9999]

**** you asshole -- you try competing out there right now.

You do not know crap about golf sir !!!

[max_asdf]

nike is a model company everyone should follow

[durito]

and that's not the point.

everyone on tour (and a whole bunch of randoms) got in this event. it's the weakest field event ever.

[englishmike]

So the same rules do not apply to these guys ? If they were worth a crap they would not need this tournament to try and keep their card.

Sponsors spend millions on their tournament and they have the right to invite who ever they want.

I don't fundamentally disagree with your argument but this was a good chance for ANYONE to win a nice check and the tour exempt status a PGA tour win affords the winner and I think it's a shame that a potentially life changing spot in the field was given to a player who is more hype than productivity.

[durito]

You do not know crap about golf sir !!!

I'll be sure to tell all my friends that.

[pokernut9999]

Yes I follow it seriously and have friends playing in this tournament.


Her wrist has been fine for quite sometime. Again, I'm not criticizing her play, but rather where and when she decides to play.

Tiger Woods won 500 junior tournaments between ages 12 and 18. He could've been out there missing cuts at PGA events, instead he was learning how to win.

Lorena Ochoa could've turned pro before college, she didn't won 15 events in two years, turned pro, earned her way on the LPGA tour by winning on the challenge tour, and is now the best player in the world.

Michele Wie is just a sideshow that needs sponsors exemptions to even get in tournaments. Those exemptions will dry up one day.

Tiger did play in PGA tournaments and never made a cut.


For your information I know several PGA players and worked for the PGA tour for 7 years so do not try and tell me you know all about this.

[smitch124]

I have no problem with her playing in this tournament, does everyone have to take the same path??

I think its interesting when she plays Men's tournaments. She doesn't need the money like some up and comers, gives her the freedom to burn her own path, let her be.

[pokernut9999]

I don't fundamentally disagree with your argument but this was a good chance for ANYONE to win a nice check and the tour exempt status a PGA tour win affords the winner and I think it's a shame that a potentially life changing spot in the field was given to a player who is more hype than productivity.

When you fork out 6 -10 million dollars to sponsor a tournament then you can invite anyone you like.

[englishmike]

First place is $540,000 and Im guessing a 2-year-exemption.

[durito]

Tiger did play in PGA tournaments and never made a cut.


For your information I know several PGA players and worked for the PGA tour for 7 years so do not try and tell me you know all about this.

He played in a handful of LA opens, that was about it. Then the majors once he started QUALIFYING for them.

[durito]

When you fork out 6 -10 million dollars to sponsor a tournament then you can invite anyone you like.

Absolutely.

I already explained why they would above.


That doesn't mean she should play.

So you say now you know a bunch of tour pro's, do they think she should be playing?

[freeVICK]

wie finished the day at 1 over. Tied for 77 out of 132 MEN. thats pretty damn good if you ask me