US guys: Do you have health insurance?

[losturmarbles]

on health insurance...

we've got close to the best qualtiy health care in the world, however our health care system is ****ed by government regulations.

next time you go to the doctor, how much of the work is actually done by the doctor. the nurses do like 90% of everything that is done. then look at an itemized bill that has everything listed by price.
scans, tests, etc. its outrageous
and as the field gets more and more technologically advanced, the prices keep going up. funny how in any other field technology leads to lower costs. but somehow in health care it works in the opposite direction.

bottom line is the price of health care is inflated, whether it be doctors protecting their profession, doctors shouldering government regulations, or hospitals subsidizing those that don't or won't pay.

[Dazzez]

yes

[Cappy]

best health care because of an over-competitive capitalistic system

[Cappy]

eff's quite a few of us in the bum

[losturmarbles]

best health care because of an over-competitive capitalistic system

our health care is more socialistic than capitalistic, there is no free market on health care.
and like my previous post mentioned our costs subsidizes the impoverished and/or lazy. not exactly a capitalistic quality.

besides how can something be over competitive?

[reno cool]

Hell no, I don't have health insurance?

What do you think this is? a rich country?

[reno cool]

our health care is more socialistic than capitalistic, there is no free market on health care.
and like my previous post mentioned our costs subsidizes the impoverished and/or lazy. not exactly a capitalistic quality.

besides how can something be over competitive?

its capitalistic for the poor

and socialistic for the wealthy

thats why the poor are ****ed

[NEP Dynasty]

Sorry to hear that Durito, glad you are ok.

Where did you go to college if you don't mind me asking?

[Thor4140]

Excellent point. And as messed up as it is, I don't want it getting even worse by turning it over to DC to run.

Yeah lets keep giving Israel 10 billion a year while their people have free health care.

[Thor4140]

on health insurance...

we've got close to the best qualtiy health care in the world, however our health care system is ****ed by government regulations.

If around 30th is close i hate to see what you think is far.

[durito]

Sorry to hear that Durito, glad you are ok.

Where did you go to college if you don't mind me asking?

don't be

university of colorado

[NEP Dynasty]

Nice. You and DJ both.

I looked and got in there, but decided not to go. Did you like it?

[durito]

It was fun.

[NEP Dynasty]

Yea I have heard. One of my buddies goes there.

[losturmarbles]

If around 30th is close i hate to see what you think is far.

i don't know where you got "30th" from, but you've got to be kidding.

"best quality health care", quality being the key word

and that being from my own research, not from some biased UN study.

[SportsGambler]

I have no health insurance at this time.

[Thor4140]

i don't know where you got "30th" from, but you've got to be kidding.

"best quality health care", quality being the key word

and that being from my own research, not from some biased UN study.

Im not gonna go looking for the stats but we are nowhere close to being on top. This is the rightwing spin crap to keep universal healthcare away from the people.

[durito]

i don't know where you got "30th" from, but you've got to be kidding.

"best quality health care", quality being the key word

and that being from my own research, not from some biased UN study.

yes surely you are more qualified than the research team at the UN

[flyingillini]

don't be

university of colorado

My brother and sister went there, they said they had a blast. I chose to go to the school I always wanted to go to. Illinois then Masters at UCSB and soon I will be a Dr. Ha and I will never use any of it.... ha

[losturmarbles]

Im not gonna go looking for the stats but we are nowhere close to being on top. This is the rightwing spin crap to keep universal healthcare away from the people.

no spin, the stats youre talking about are not relevant to best in terms of quality, contrary to the leftwing tool that told you they were.
and universal healthcare is socialized medicine. if you want to fix our system, get the government out health care completely. as in stop seizing MY EARNINGS to give to some deadbeat, stop manipulating the system to help gain political favor, and let the market regulate itself.

people don't have a right to healthcare. that's bullshit. what ever happened to personal responsibility??? you give in to government dependency then you also give up your personal freedom. hello USSR.

yes surely you are more qualified than the research team at the UN

damn straight, hell the poll on this thread has more credibility than the UN

[durito]

no spin, the stats youre talking about are not relevant to best in terms of quality, contrary to the leftwing tool that told you they were.
and universal healthcare is socialized medicine. if you want to fix our system, get the government out health care completely. as in stop seizing MY EARNINGS to give to some deadbeat, stop manipulating the system to help gain political favor, and let the market regulate itself.

people don't have a right to healthcare. that's bullshit. what ever happened to personal responsibility??? you give in to government dependency then you also give up your personal freedom. hello USSR.



damn straight, hell the poll on this thread has more credibility than the UN

This right here pretty much sums up all that is wrong with our country right now. Soon you will be poor and without health care too though, so I guess it all comes full circle.

[Scratch]

healthcare coverage in the US has been on the decline over the last few years because of all the illegal mexicans getting free treatment. leaves everyone else footing the bill.

yet the health insurance companies are recording record profits. my plan at work has started regressing quickly over the last 5 years.

when things aren't covered 100%, insurance companies, doctors and hospitals need to be held more accountable. no more $20 for a tylenol or $200 for a "specialist" to make a cameo appearance just to put their name on the bill.

i know i scrutinize my benefits more now that i have to pay a % out of pocket. it's amazing how many double charges and other crap tries to get pushed through.

[durito]

healthcare coverage in the US has been on the decline over the last few years because of all the illegal mexicans getting free treatment. leaves everyone else footing the bill.

This is also a right wing scare myth, when the actual impact is way down the list.

[Scratch]

how is it a scare myth. any impact is still an impact. i shouldn't have to pay for someone who shouldnt be here to begin with.

[durito]

Are you a native american?

Do you live in a state stolen from Mexico by force?

[thezbar]

Yes. One of the perks of being a working class hero

[thezbar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njG7p6CSbCU

[losturmarbles]

This right here pretty much sums up all that is wrong with our country right now. Soon you will be poor and without health care too though, so I guess it all comes full circle.

why be so vague durito? no substance in your post (ie "This right here")

do you have a real response?

[Scratch]

Are you a native american?

Do you live in a state stolen from Mexico by force?

no, i'm not a native american, and I don't live in a state stolen from Mexico. I see where your post is leading, but my point is the illegal immigration problem in this country is getting beyond remedy. While you may not think it is much of an impact right now, what do you think it will be like 5 years from now, 10 years, or later?

When Europeans settled this country there was plenty of room and jobs to do. I don't agree with how native americans were treated in all cases, but it is a very different situation today.

[Thor4140]

no spin, the stats youre talking about are not relevant to best in terms of quality, contrary to the leftwing tool that told you they were.
and universal healthcare is socialized medicine. if you want to fix our system, get the government out health care completely. as in stop seizing MY EARNINGS to give to some deadbeat, stop manipulating the system to help gain political favor, and let the market regulate itself.

people don't have a right to healthcare. that's bullshit. what ever happened to personal responsibility??? you give in to government dependency then you also give up your personal freedom. hello USSR.



damn straight, hell the poll on this thread has more credibility than the UN

Dude put down the crack pipe and the Limbaugh chronicles okay. First off im a registered independent. Second how does this seem to work in every western industrialize nation but it can't work here? Third before you bring up the nonsense about the healthcare system in Canada have you ever heard of one Canadian that wants our system instead? You ever hear the citizens of Israel complaining about theirs? How about the French? You right wing moon bats blame everything on someone who is on welfare like their are 100 million people on it. I never met a person on welfare in my life. By the way I didn't see you anywhere when we bailed out Bear Sterns, the airlines and Freddie and Fannie. Why is it you right wing pigeons never have a problem when we socialize losses to the airlines and the bear Sterns of the world? I get it. Capitalize profit while socializing losses the rightwing way. Pathetic.

[losturmarbles]

This is also a right wing scare myth, when the actual impact is way down the list.

why is everything you disagree with rightwing spins and myths???

i don't know about everyone else, but the hospital in the town i live in, i can check out the ER waiting room any time of day and at least half of the people in there are non english speaking aliens. they use the ER as their primary health provider. they bring all their little rugrats and get all their healthcare for free. well no they do get billed for their visits, but do they pay the bills? no. who does?? ding ding ding yes that is right - I DO and every other tax payer.

[losturmarbles]

Dude put down the crack pipe and the Limbaugh chronicles okay. First off im a registered independent. Second how does this seem to work in every western industrialize nation but it can't work here? Third before you bring up the nonsense about the healthcare system in Canada have you ever heard of one Canadian that wants our system instead? You ever hear the citizens of Israel complaining about theirs? How about the French? You right wing moon bats blame everything on someone who is on welfare like their are 100 million people on it. I never met a person on welfare in my life. By the way I didn't see you anywhere when we bailed out Bear Sterns, the airlines and Freddie and Fannie. Why is it you right wing pigeons never have a problem when we socialize losses to the airlines and the bear Sterns of the world? I get it. Capitalize profit while socializing losses the rightwing way. Pathetic.

dude youre all over the place,

youre just like durito, anybody you disagree with is a rightwing nutjob. for what its worth, left or right you both need to pull you head out of your ass. im a libertarian, and if you had one lick of common sense you might have been able to discern that on your own. so all the hoopla about bear sterns, airlines, and yada yada you can save it for another thread.

on the topic at hand,
it doesnt work in every other western industrialized nation. health care is rationed, theyre put on waiting lists to see specialists or to get special treatment.
there's lots of people that cross the canadian bordor into the US to get a procedure or surgery done in the US bc they were going to have to be on a waiting list in canada. now how many people do the reverse of that and cross into canada from the US?
and i don't blame people on welfare, i blame the government.

[wtt0315]

yes and my new job pays all but 5 dollars ever 2 weeks on my check

[Thor4140]

dude youre all over the place,

youre just like durito, anybody you disagree with is a rightwing nutjob. for what its worth, left or right you both need to pull you head out of your ass. im a libertarian, and if you had one lick of common sense you might have been able to discern that on your own. so all the hoopla about bear sterns, airlines, and yada yada you can save it for another thread.

on the topic at hand,
it doesnt work in every other western industrialized nation. health care is rationed, theyre put on waiting lists to see specialists or to get special treatment.
there's lots of people that cross the canadian bordor into the US to get a procedure or surgery done in the US bc they were going to have to be on a waiting list in canada. now how many people do the reverse of that and cross into canada from the US?
and i don't blame people on welfare, i blame the government.

Put the 60 million americans without healthcare in the system and you will see a waiting list here. Again show me one Canadian who would rather have our greedy system.

[betplom]

Put the 60 million americans without healthcare in the system and you will see a waiting list here. Again show me one Canadian who would rather have our greedy system.

Agreed, you won't find one.

True, the Canadian system is nowhere near perfect but the principle is that health care is a right, not a privilege. EVERY industrialized nation except the US share this belief.

I'm used to hearing the same tired old comments about the Canadian health care system from Americans, were commies etc. etc. because its "socialized".

But the bottom line is I have coverage until the day I die and it's comforting to know I'll not have to risk huge debt/bankruptcy should I become ill and require treatment.