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  • moneyline
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    • 01-18-08
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    #71
    Never compare baseball to soccer. It's like comparing the WNBA to NFL football.

    Let me put it to you that way ...
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    • pavyracer
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      • 04-12-07
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      #72
      2 wins and 5 losses since the trade. Priceless trade
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      • moneyline
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        • 01-18-08
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        #73
        Dodgers are 0-1 since the Manny trade ... what idiots they were.

        (or perhaps we are all idiots for actually responding to pavy???)
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        • ryanXL977
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          • 02-24-08
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          #74
          yanks spend 200 million to get shut out at home and lose 2 to balti and 2 moire to laa

          nice
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          • pavyracer
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            • 04-12-07
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            #75
            It's amazing how much money I made with Yankees this week. I bet against them on all five losses +EV and even nailed one of their wins with Joba on the mount. When people like moneyline bet their hard earned money on useless trades sharps like me have a feast.
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            • moneyline
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              • 01-18-08
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              #76
              Pavy, that's where you are wrong ... I've made quite a bit as well .... I know the Yankees are bad betting value and bet against them every time they are favored against the Halos ... got +162 on Thursday and will get +125-+130 today ...

              I CAN bet against them and be fine with it because I know they win enough of the other games to make the playoffs 14 years running ...

              Nothing sharp about that betting philosophy, Pavy ... nothing sharp at all!
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              • InTheHole
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                • 04-28-08
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                #77
                Good Call...yanks 8-5
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                • BigOrangeTitans
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                  • 11-23-07
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                  #78
                  Yanks win the division, hands down. Tampa bay wont keep up and the Sox just dont impress me at all, in the least.
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                  • moneyline
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                    • 01-18-08
                    • 1748

                    #79
                    Nady does suck, though ... looks like Pavy was right after all.
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                    • BigD
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                      • 09-23-05
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                      #80
                      6 RBI for Nady today not bad
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                      • pavyracer
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                        • 04-12-07
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                        #81
                        3-5 since the trade

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                        • moneyline
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                          • 01-18-08
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                          #82
                          Wow. That is funny.
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                          • ryanXL977
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                            • 02-24-08
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                            #83
                            ill stick with the rays winning the east and twins central
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                            • ryanXL977
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                              • 02-24-08
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                              #84
                              i think why moneyline is so mad is that the yanks are 3-5 since the deal, but he says thats too small a sample size. but one game of karstens vs cubs, thats a fair sample size

                              moneyline is a classic yanks homer, thats all he is
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                              • moneyline
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                                • 01-18-08
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                                #85
                                Mad? Ry, the Yanks will make the playoffs ... I wish more people were like Pavy ... that'd leave me with more people to laugh at when October comes!

                                13 playoff appearances ... 6 world series appearances ... 4 world championships ...

                                (nobody has been better, or come close, during this 1994-2008 stretch ... darn good to be a Yankee fan)
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                                • ryanXL977
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                                  • 02-24-08
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                                  #86
                                  now make up your mind, does the wild card count or not? bc you dont like it last i recalled
                                  i love the wc, and i also liked the nady deal as you know
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                                  • moneyline
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                                    • 01-18-08
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                                    #87
                                    When did I ever mention the Wild Card?
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                                    • ryanXL977
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                                      • 02-24-08
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                                      #88
                                      you said the yanks would have even more championships if not for the wc

                                      you like to discount stats and teams that hinder anything to do with the yanks

                                      there are teams that are good not from new york ya know

                                      teams that dont spend 200 million and are even better
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                                      • moneyline
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                                        • 01-18-08
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                                        #89
                                        Nobody's been better over the last 14 years ... nobody ...

                                        (and 14 years is a pretty big sample size, wouldn't you agree?)
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                                        • ryanXL977
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                                          • 02-24-08
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                                          #90
                                          plenty have been better over the last 5 though
                                          why do we start counting in 1995?
                                          lets start counting in 1988., then oakland is up there, as is toronto
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                                          • moneyline
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                                            • 01-18-08
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                                            #91
                                            Oakland and Toronto have won 4 championships apiece since 1988? Really?

                                            Yanks have won 4 since 1996 ...

                                            Quiz question ... how far back would you have to go to find another team that has won 4 championships from 2008 backwards? Yanks you only have to go back to 1996!

                                            (now, go back to the only thing you have -- talk about the $$$ again)
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                                            • ryanXL977
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                                              • 02-24-08
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                                              #92
                                              well, i hope they have 4 championships, as they spent enough to win 14 of them.
                                              explain to me why they got ass****ed by9 the marlins, whipped by the tribe last year, beaten by az in 01. the list goes on

                                              why do the yanks always choke (excluding the late 1990s)
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                                              • pavyracer
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                                                • 04-12-07
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                                                #93
                                                Last 8 years 0 championships for Yankees. This is what matters.
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                                                • moneyline
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                                                  • 01-18-08
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                                                  #94
                                                  Last 8 years, 0 championships?

                                                  2007 ... 2006 ... 2005 ... 2004 ... 2003 ... 2002 ... 2001 ...

                                                  Eighth year they beat the Mets ... surely you are not stupid enough to count a year (this one) where there has not been a winner yet, are you???

                                                  (what am I saying ... of course you are)

                                                  (and actually what matters is, in my lifetime, the Yanks have won 6 championships ... nobody else has ... now go back to the money ... really, it's all you and Ry have to talk about)
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                                                  • ryanXL977
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                                                    • 02-24-08
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                                                    #95
                                                    again, i dont hate the yanks
                                                    but dont you think they should have a little more to show for the last 5-6 years than nothing?

                                                    the fact you act like jeter is still good speaks volumes to me
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                                                    • pavyracer
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                                                      • 04-12-07
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                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by moneyline
                                                      Last 8 years, 0 championships?

                                                      2007 ... 2006 ... 2005 ... 2004 ... 2003 ... 2002 ... 2001 ...

                                                      Eighth year they beat the Mets ... surely you are not stupid enough to count a year (this one) where there has not been a winner yet, are you???

                                                      (what am I saying ... of course you are)

                                                      (and actually what matters is, in my lifetime, the Yanks have won 6 championships ... nobody else has ... now go back to the money ... really, it's all you and Ry have to talk about)
                                                      I said Yankees won't make the playoffs. I stand corrected that this means they won't be 2008 champions.
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                                                      • moneyline
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                                                        • 01-18-08
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                                                        #97
                                                        Ry, you are more spoiled than an actual Yankee fan. I still appreciate making the playoffs ... I don't believe you can buy a World Series and I also don't believe winning it is a team's birthright ...

                                                        I just happen to be lucky enough to have the Yankees as my team ... the most world championships (26) in baseball history ... but more relevant ...

                                                        Most since 1996 -- 4
                                                        Most since 1978 -- 6

                                                        Even in the 80s when they won nothing, they had the best record in baseball during that decade ...

                                                        Even this century where the Yankees are supposedly so horrible, they are one world series championship away from tying for the lead ...

                                                        It is great to be a Yankee fan. Absolutely outstanding ... to have an owner who doesn't pocket the money he makes like a miser, but puts it back into the team ... because he wants to win.

                                                        When the Yanks make the playoffs this year, you all will be eating crow again ...

                                                        (but you'll still be able to cry about the $$$)
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                                                        • ryanXL977
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                                                          • 02-24-08
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                                                          #98
                                                          i didnt say the yankr are horrible, though jeter is, and abreau running into an out at third was pretty bad too

                                                          i am a rangers fan, we dont win shit
                                                          but we also dont spend 200 million and have no minor league system

                                                          the yanks dont have any callups really, other than joba.

                                                          most teams have a minor league system, nyy aint one of them

                                                          championships since 2001: 0
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                                                          • moneyline
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                                                            • 01-18-08
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                                                            #99
                                                            Well, Ry, you guys must be proud. Do you have a night celebrating your farm system and another night celebrating the fact you don't spend as much money as the Yankees?

                                                            I keep missing the part where awards are handed out for these "accomplishments".

                                                            Dude, in my lifetime, the Yanks are averaging a championship every 6 years ... any other team in major league baseball would die or kill to accomplish that over a 36 year period ...

                                                            (I suppose I could start rooting for another team so I'll have fewer championships to celebrate -- the rangers, perhaps?)

                                                            -- and as for the farm system, you are right ... the Yanks only have a farm grown Chamberlain ... oops, also have Pettite ... woah, also have Rivera ... oh my, also have Cano ... wait a second, also have Posada ... oh my, also have Jeter ... don't blame us for not only bringing them up through the farm system, but also having the $$$ and smarts to keep them)
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                                                            • ryanXL977
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                                                              • 02-24-08
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                                                              #100
                                                              pettie was 1994 right, so was rivera and posada.

                                                              cano, now thats somehting to brag about
                                                              ian kinsler is 10x better
                                                              the rangers have produced juan gone, pudge, chris young, robb nen, teixera, blaylock, dealth adrian gonzalez and carlos pena

                                                              now you can enjoy winning one trophy every 6 years, whatever that means

                                                              but they havent COME CLOSE for almost the entire decade of the 2000s
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                                                              • element1286
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                                                                • 02-25-08
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                                                                #101
                                                                Just a quick point about the farm system. The Yankees do have a decent farm system, in the top 10 coming into the year, but lower now because of the trade with the Pirates, and Chamberlain losing his prospect status this year. The Yankees use their farm system as a way to get veterans to their team, as shown by the Nady/Marte deal. They have some high upside guys down there, ie Kennedy, Hughes, and Jackson, but they seem to be very quick to give up on prospects. So we shall see how they use the farm system in the future. Recently their farm system has produced a Melky Cabrera, Robinson Cano, and Joba Chamberlain (who is the only one to become a real impact player so far).
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                                                                • Clueless_Norway
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                                                                  • 04-13-08
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                                                                  #102
                                                                  Ryan... just give up before your head blows up...
                                                                  Talking baseball with a Yank fan is like talking football with a Cowboys fan, the past that counts....
                                                                  Like the Cowboys who choke every playoffs...
                                                                  When you tell a Cowboy fan that its: "we won everything back in the stone age.."
                                                                  Who cares...
                                                                  I wan't to see my team win something right now...
                                                                  You won't jump up and cheere when you see a SB winning TD or a WS winning run from the 80's or 90's... It's now that counts...
                                                                  Was a Yank fan 4-5 years ago, but got bored to watch them and ended up with the Phillies caus of the Flyers and Eagles...
                                                                  Also like the Rangers caus of their offense and the Jays, but don't know why....
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                                                                  • ryanXL977
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                                                                    • 02-24-08
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                                                                    #103
                                                                    joba is a bad ass, the best pitcher in the al maybe

                                                                    but cano and melky? seriously? those guys are not a big deal. melky is an average hitter who plays for the yanks, he aint in bernie williams league.

                                                                    hughes and kennedy
                                                                    what have they done? what has andy phillips done and all the other yanks we hear about every year like ruben rivera etc.

                                                                    huges and kennedy: 0 wins
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                                                                    • Dashwood Clipper
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                                                                      • 03-12-08
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                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by Clueless_Norway
                                                                      Ryan... just give up before your head blows up...
                                                                      Talking baseball with a Yank fan is like talking football with a Cowboys fan, the past that counts....
                                                                      Like the Cowboys who choke every playoffs...
                                                                      When you tell a Cowboy fan that its: "we won everything back in the stone age.."
                                                                      Who cares...
                                                                      I wan't to see my team win something right now...
                                                                      You won't jump up and cheere when you see a SB winning TD or a WS winning run from the 80's or 90's... It's now that counts...
                                                                      Was a Yank fan 4-5 years ago, but got bored to watch them and ended up with the Phillies caus of the Flyers and Eagles...
                                                                      Also like the Rangers caus of their offense and the Jays, but don't know why....
                                                                      Careful Clueless, ryan is from Dallas, whole new can of worms
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                                                                      • Clueless_Norway
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                                                                        • 04-13-08
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                                                                        #105
                                                                        Joba and Kinsler is those who's impressed me the most this season...
                                                                        I just waited for a realy bad outing by Joba, but can't see that happends this season..
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