not a chance in hell he wins the Cy young, nice turn around, but come on JJ, Cy Youngs go to steady performers all season long.
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JBC77
SBR MVP
03-23-07
3816
#5
Think he can win 20 games?
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LT Profits
SBR Aristocracy
10-27-06
90963
#6
Mussina wasn't even on the All-Star team. Who was the last Cy Young winner to not make the All-Star Game in that same season?
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JBC77
SBR MVP
03-23-07
3816
#7
Originally posted by LT Profits
Mussina wasn't even on the All-Star team. Who was the last Cy Young winner to not make the All-Star Game in that same season?
If the guy can get 20 wins they might have to consider him. I always thought he was mediocre. Seemed to give up runs early all the time....
But hey, the guy is hitting his spots.....
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smitch124
SBR Posting Legend
05-19-08
12566
#8
Originally posted by LT Profits
Mussina wasn't even on the All-Star team. Who was the last Cy Young winner to not make the All-Star Game in that same season?
Ugh, please don't ask questions like that, I feel compelled to find out the answer...
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LT Profits
SBR Aristocracy
10-27-06
90963
#9
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AgainstAllOdds
SBR Hall of Famer
02-24-08
6053
#10
Lt,
Do you acutally know who it was? Thats a very interesting question that I dont/cant find the answer to.
Originally posted by SBR_John
AAO = good dude. Buying you a drink in Vegas buddy.
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LT Profits
SBR Aristocracy
10-27-06
90963
#11
Johan Santana (2004)
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St. Andrew
SBR MVP
02-23-08
2265
#12
If Wang had not gotten injured, he would've won the Cy Young cause he's a top 5 pitcher.
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moneyline
SBR MVP
01-18-08
1748
#13
Yes, he is ... that's why you can't get him out of your mind ...
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Bread
SBR Posting Legend
03-16-08
23726
#14
God I hate the Yankees
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AC1318
SBR Hall of Famer
10-09-06
6712
#15
he won't win that award this year
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moneyline
SBR MVP
01-18-08
1748
#16
Funny how nobody ever hates the Nationals ...
(guess you have to be a winner for people to hate you ...)
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Kingctb27
SBR MVP
07-16-08
2258
#17
Not a chance... Right now the winner is Cliff Lee.
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moneyline
SBR MVP
01-18-08
1748
#18
Are they handing out the award now? I can't keep up with all of the rule changes in MLB.
(who won the Cy Young in July back in 2004?)
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AC1318
SBR Hall of Famer
10-09-06
6712
#19
has a rookie ever won it ??
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Clueless_Norway
SBR MVP
04-13-08
1136
#20
Originally posted by AC1318
has a rookie ever won it ??
Fernando Valenzuela of the Los Angeles Dodgers in 1981 was the first rookie to win the Cy Young
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element1286
Restricted User
02-25-08
3370
#21
Nah, much better candidates. His era is nothing special, and he only averages 5.6 inning per start.
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moneyline
SBR MVP
01-18-08
1748
#22
This is the AL, element ... 3.30 is extremely special for a starting pitcher ...
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element1286
Restricted User
02-25-08
3370
#23
Originally posted by moneyline
This is the AL, element ... 3.30 is extremely special for a starting pitcher ...
10th in the AL.
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moneyline
SBR MVP
01-18-08
1748
#24
Out of how many starters again?
20 ...
50 ...
100 ...
How many pitchers have started a game in the AL this year?
Are there any teams who have a starting ERA under 3.50 in the AL? Not many, if any ...
Top 10 isn't special? That's news to me!
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BadBeatBodog
SBR MVP
06-05-08
1006
#25
Looking at wins to decide the Cy Young is idiotic. ERA is almost as bad.
"Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"
"Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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Clueless_Norway
SBR MVP
04-13-08
1136
#26
You should count a lot of thing for a Cy Young award...
Im not an expert, but I think you should count:
ERA
WHIP
K's
IP/start
K to BB ratio
If they are using W-L record they should rank the pitchers after run support pr game too...
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BadBeatBodog
SBR MVP
06-05-08
1006
#27
Halladay deserves the award as of today.
"Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"
"Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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moneyline
SBR MVP
01-18-08
1748
#28
True -- if you go 23-3 with an ERA of 1.64, that shouldn't count if your WHIP is over 1.30 ...
Great point ...
K to BB ratio means nothing if you don't win ...
(i.e. I gave up 4 HR's in the game, lost 4-2, but didn't walk anybody and struck out 10 ... whoopie)
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Clueless_Norway
SBR MVP
04-13-08
1136
#29
I don't mean that K's to BB should be one of the first thing to watch on, but it can be used on fek. a tie breaker....
Also as you wrote, HR/9 should have something to say too...
Yeah, Halladay is one of those who should be a contender and if CC continues what he shows for the Brewers he should be in it too...
He got two complet games in a row now and might get his 3rd today, with an 1.80 or so ERA and might go 4-0 of 4 possible after today!!!
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ryanXL977
SBR Posting Legend
02-24-08
20615
#30
mussina is having an incredible year
ifhe somehow got cy young that would be as amazing as any award ihave ever seen
i guess its possible
he or halladay i guess
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BadBeatBodog
SBR MVP
06-05-08
1006
#31
Halladay leads the league in IP. He has more CGs by himself than any team. He leads the league in xFIP. 'Nuff said.
"Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"
"Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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pat venditto
SBR Posting Legend
05-07-07
14347
#32
Don't ever take anything jj says seriously.
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BuddyBear
SBR Hall of Famer
08-10-05
7233
#33
Unless something changes, you have to believe its Cliff Lee's to lose.
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BadBeatBodog
SBR MVP
06-05-08
1006
#34
Originally posted by BuddyBear
Unless something changes, you have to believe its Cliff Lee's to lose.
Would you like to place a friendly wager on who ends the year with better numbers, Lee or Halladay? I would make it a who wins the Cy Young but I can't trust the people who vote to not be idiots.
As of right now Halladay is the best pitcher in baseball. Most IP, best xFIP.
"Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"
"Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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BuddyBear
SBR Hall of Famer
08-10-05
7233
#35
Originally posted by BadBeatBodog
Would you like to place a friendly wager on who ends the year with better numbers, Lee or Halladay? I would make it a who wins the Cy Young but I can't trust the people who vote to not be idiots.
As of right now Halladay is the best pitcher in baseball. Most IP, best xFIP.
hmm...a friendly wager if you want, or maybe $20 or something if you want. I really think Lee gets the award. I'd be very surprised if Halladay got it....although, he's a great pitcher.