Mussina Might Win Cy Young Award

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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    Mussina Might Win Cy Young Award
    Un real

    I thought this guy was done 3 years ago
  • SlickFazzer
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 05-22-08
    • 20209

    #2
    Sombich has turned into a steady old goat.
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    • AnotherLoan
      SBR MVP
      • 07-21-08
      • 2225

      #3
      Pettitte must have hooked him up.
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      • Brock Landers
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 06-30-08
        • 45359

        #4
        not a chance in hell he wins the Cy young, nice turn around, but come on JJ, Cy Youngs go to steady performers all season long.
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        • JBC77
          SBR MVP
          • 03-23-07
          • 3816

          #5
          Think he can win 20 games?
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          • LT Profits
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 10-27-06
            • 90963

            #6
            Mussina wasn't even on the All-Star team. Who was the last Cy Young winner to not make the All-Star Game in that same season?
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            • JBC77
              SBR MVP
              • 03-23-07
              • 3816

              #7
              Originally posted by LT Profits
              Mussina wasn't even on the All-Star team. Who was the last Cy Young winner to not make the All-Star Game in that same season?
              If the guy can get 20 wins they might have to consider him. I always thought he was mediocre. Seemed to give up runs early all the time....

              But hey, the guy is hitting his spots.....
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              • smitch124
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 05-19-08
                • 12566

                #8
                Originally posted by LT Profits
                Mussina wasn't even on the All-Star team. Who was the last Cy Young winner to not make the All-Star Game in that same season?
                Ugh, please don't ask questions like that, I feel compelled to find out the answer...
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                • LT Profits
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 10-27-06
                  • 90963

                  #9
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                  • AgainstAllOdds
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 02-24-08
                    • 6053

                    #10
                    Lt,

                    Do you acutally know who it was? Thats a very interesting question that I dont/cant find the answer to.
                    Originally posted by SBR_John
                    AAO = good dude. Buying you a drink in Vegas buddy.
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                    • LT Profits
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-27-06
                      • 90963

                      #11
                      Johan Santana (2004)
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                      • St. Andrew
                        SBR MVP
                        • 02-23-08
                        • 2265

                        #12
                        If Wang had not gotten injured, he would've won the Cy Young cause he's a top 5 pitcher.
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                        • moneyline
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-18-08
                          • 1748

                          #13
                          Yes, he is ... that's why you can't get him out of your mind ...
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                          • Bread
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 03-16-08
                            • 23726

                            #14
                            God I hate the Yankees
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                            • AC1318
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 10-09-06
                              • 6712

                              #15
                              he won't win that award this year
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                              • moneyline
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-18-08
                                • 1748

                                #16
                                Funny how nobody ever hates the Nationals ...

                                (guess you have to be a winner for people to hate you ...)
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                                • Kingctb27
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 07-16-08
                                  • 2258

                                  #17
                                  Not a chance... Right now the winner is Cliff Lee.
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                                  • moneyline
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-18-08
                                    • 1748

                                    #18
                                    Are they handing out the award now? I can't keep up with all of the rule changes in MLB.

                                    (who won the Cy Young in July back in 2004?)
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                                    • AC1318
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 10-09-06
                                      • 6712

                                      #19
                                      has a rookie ever won it ??
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                                      • Clueless_Norway
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 04-13-08
                                        • 1136

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by AC1318
                                        has a rookie ever won it ??
                                        Fernando Valenzuela of the Los Angeles Dodgers in 1981 was the first rookie to win the Cy Young
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                                        • element1286
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 02-25-08
                                          • 3370

                                          #21
                                          Nah, much better candidates. His era is nothing special, and he only averages 5.6 inning per start.
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                                          • moneyline
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-18-08
                                            • 1748

                                            #22
                                            This is the AL, element ... 3.30 is extremely special for a starting pitcher ...
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                                            • element1286
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 02-25-08
                                              • 3370

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by moneyline
                                              This is the AL, element ... 3.30 is extremely special for a starting pitcher ...
                                              10th in the AL.
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                                              • moneyline
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-18-08
                                                • 1748

                                                #24
                                                Out of how many starters again?

                                                20 ...

                                                50 ...

                                                100 ...

                                                How many pitchers have started a game in the AL this year?

                                                Are there any teams who have a starting ERA under 3.50 in the AL? Not many, if any ...

                                                Top 10 isn't special? That's news to me!
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                                                • BadBeatBodog
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 06-05-08
                                                  • 1006

                                                  #25
                                                  Looking at wins to decide the Cy Young is idiotic. ERA is almost as bad.
                                                  "Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"

                                                  "Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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                                                  • Clueless_Norway
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 04-13-08
                                                    • 1136

                                                    #26
                                                    You should count a lot of thing for a Cy Young award...
                                                    Im not an expert, but I think you should count:
                                                    ERA
                                                    WHIP
                                                    K's
                                                    IP/start
                                                    K to BB ratio

                                                    If they are using W-L record they should rank the pitchers after run support pr game too...
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                                                    • BadBeatBodog
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 06-05-08
                                                      • 1006

                                                      #27
                                                      Halladay deserves the award as of today.
                                                      "Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"

                                                      "Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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                                                      • moneyline
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-18-08
                                                        • 1748

                                                        #28
                                                        True -- if you go 23-3 with an ERA of 1.64, that shouldn't count if your WHIP is over 1.30 ...

                                                        Great point ...

                                                        K to BB ratio means nothing if you don't win ...

                                                        (i.e. I gave up 4 HR's in the game, lost 4-2, but didn't walk anybody and struck out 10 ... whoopie)
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                                                        • Clueless_Norway
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 04-13-08
                                                          • 1136

                                                          #29
                                                          I don't mean that K's to BB should be one of the first thing to watch on, but it can be used on fek. a tie breaker....
                                                          Also as you wrote, HR/9 should have something to say too...

                                                          Yeah, Halladay is one of those who should be a contender and if CC continues what he shows for the Brewers he should be in it too...
                                                          He got two complet games in a row now and might get his 3rd today, with an 1.80 or so ERA and might go 4-0 of 4 possible after today!!!
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                                                          • ryanXL977
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 02-24-08
                                                            • 20615

                                                            #30
                                                            mussina is having an incredible year
                                                            ifhe somehow got cy young that would be as amazing as any award ihave ever seen
                                                            i guess its possible
                                                            he or halladay i guess
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                                                            • BadBeatBodog
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 06-05-08
                                                              • 1006

                                                              #31
                                                              Halladay leads the league in IP. He has more CGs by himself than any team. He leads the league in xFIP. 'Nuff said.
                                                              "Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"

                                                              "Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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                                                              • pat venditto
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 05-07-07
                                                                • 14347

                                                                #32
                                                                Don't ever take anything jj says seriously.
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                                                                • BuddyBear
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                                  • 7233

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Unless something changes, you have to believe its Cliff Lee's to lose.
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                                                                  • BadBeatBodog
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 06-05-08
                                                                    • 1006

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                                                    Unless something changes, you have to believe its Cliff Lee's to lose.
                                                                    Would you like to place a friendly wager on who ends the year with better numbers, Lee or Halladay? I would make it a who wins the Cy Young but I can't trust the people who vote to not be idiots.

                                                                    As of right now Halladay is the best pitcher in baseball. Most IP, best xFIP.
                                                                    "Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"

                                                                    "Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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                                                                    • BuddyBear
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 08-10-05
                                                                      • 7233

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by BadBeatBodog
                                                                      Would you like to place a friendly wager on who ends the year with better numbers, Lee or Halladay? I would make it a who wins the Cy Young but I can't trust the people who vote to not be idiots.

                                                                      As of right now Halladay is the best pitcher in baseball. Most IP, best xFIP.
                                                                      hmm...a friendly wager if you want, or maybe $20 or something if you want. I really think Lee gets the award. I'd be very surprised if Halladay got it....although, he's a great pitcher.
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