Income Inequality In The USA

[Extra Innings]

I think that the real problem in the US might be the difference on the salaries. For example The Vice President of The Company earns 100K per Month while the cashier makes 1200 per month.

I see a big problem here.

Why cant the vice president of the company make 50K per month which is enough to live very very well and raise the cashiers salary to 3000 per month.

Samething happens here in Panama.

People get paid what the market commands. Start your own company and pay your cashiers 3000/month.

[Tsonga]

Canada is irrelevant. Nobody here takes these discussions seriously. Canada would be the poorest country in the world if not for its trade surplus with its mighty neighbors to the south. We view canada as our retarded cousin.

and now i view you as just a plain retard.

we are the retarded cousins who just happened to have better quality of life, healthcare, more gold medals at the last Olympics, and had the fastest recovery from the financial crisis of all the g8 countries. Not that I expect you to know who are included in the G8...but for your info the US is included.

[pavyracer]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-time_Olympic_Games_medal_table

Canada 405 total metals

United States 2549 metals

The numbers don't lie.

[Tsonga]

don't you guys have milk in a bag up there.

we do. but if you come to visit you can find in in plastic cartons as well.

[benjy]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-tim...es_medal_table

Canada 405 total metals

United States 2549 metals

The numbers don't lie.

As nonsensical it is to judge your nation's worth on the basis of Olympic medals I need to (insanely) point out that on a per capita basis Canada would be whopping the US' butt.

This is so silly.

[Tsonga]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-tim...es_medal_table

Canada 405 total metals

United States 2549 metals

The numbers don't lie.

the numbers don't lie, but you do if you think I misled. I was referring to golds in my post. Canada has a total of 110 golds. Check your link. Remember this all stemmed from you saying we had 2 golds...right? was that too long ago to remember how this started?

I know I'm not dealing with someone operating with a full deck but its medals. not metals. little difference there.

[Extra Innings]

and now i view you as just a plain retard.

we are the retarded cousins who just happened to have better quality of life, healthcare, more gold medals at the last Olympics, and had the fastest recovery from the financial crisis of all the g8 countries. Not that I expect you to know who are included in the G8...but for your info the US is included.

Military Expense

USA 687,105,000,000
CANADA 20,164,000,000

Do you know why there is a difference? Do you think the fact that we spend 30 plus times more on defending you and the World has something to do with your economic "recovery"?

What would you guys do if you were ever attacked? Rely on NATO

[pavyracer]

As nonsensical it is to judge your nation's worth on the basis of Olympic medals I need to (insanely) point out that on a per capita basis Canada would be whopping the US' butt.

This is so silly.

It's not US's fault that no one wants to live in Canada. Why don't people come from all over the world to populate the great nation of Canada but instead choose the US? Even the immigrants can tell who the better country is.

[Extra Innings]

All I know is when someone has a life threatening medical condition they come to the USA, even when they are from Canada.

[benjy]

It's not US's fault that no one wants to live in Canada. Why don't people come from all over the world to populate the great nation of Canada but instead choose the US? Even the immigrants can tell who the better country is.

Oh Pavy, I like you dude and you often make me laugh but you're off the mark here. Way off the mark.

[acarmelo1]

People get paid what the market commands. Start your own company and pay your cashiers 3000/month.

So you think that is reasonable?

We need to distribute the country riches more equally.

I agree that a Doctor can never win the same as teh guy that cleans the toilets,

But it shouldnt be 2000 times more either.

This will sound wierd.

But we need companies that are not created just to make money.
This is the model of the US. Make a company to make tons of money.

We need companies that develop their employees, develop the country, and you can still make a profit. But Instead of Billions, you will make millions.
This is the Japanese Model.

[benjy]

EI - who the heck would attack Canada? Nobody. Everyone likes Canadians, well except the ones that harp on the US. No need for your defence, thought the sentiment is appreciated.

And as for life threatening medical treatment, you're off the mark. Sure some go to the US but to belittle the medical care here is asinine. In certain circumstances the US healthcare system is better but to deride Canada's system is just silly.

[acarmelo1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-tim...es_medal_table

Canada 405 total metals

United States 2549 metals

The numbers don't lie.

What does medal shows?

Can the Players melt them for gold and pay food with them?

[pavyracer]

What does medal shows?

Can the Players melt them for gold and pay food with them?

It shows who the best country is. We are already dominating the world with our mighty military and we are inducing our foreign policy to any other nation in the world at will and on top of that we are dominating the Olympics and most of the team sports in both men and women.

[acarmelo1]

It shows who the best country is. We are already dominating the world with our mighty military and we are inducing our foreign policy to any other nation in the world at will and on top of that we are dominating the Olympics and most of the team sports in both men and women.

Shouldnt the best country be the one with less poor people, with less homeless with less uneducated people?

Medals just show that you can run fast, or jump.

A car con go fast too you know.

[benjy]

It shows who the best country is. We are already dominating the world with our mighty military and we are inducing our foreign policy to any other nation in the world at will and on top of that we are dominating the Olympics and most of the team sports in both men and women.

If that's your two most important criteria Pavy then you win. Perhaps soon to be overtaken by China.

Though if I were to judge the merits of countries against one another I would use neither as they seem beside the point to me.

[Cap dat 4ss]

The only countries that matter are US, China, Russia and India, in that order. Canada has to rely on Nato has no defense. If not for US, canada would be under Afghan law

Canada having superior healthcare is as laughable as their military. The US has the premier medical schools, doctors, hospitals and specialists. NOBODY ever goes to canada for healthcare. Even the wealthy canadians leave canada for treatment. Canadian doctors just arent as smart because of inferior schooling, fact.

Again, canada is irrelevant. They have no influence in the world, at americas mercy.

[benjy]

The only countries that matter are US, China, Russia and India, in that order. Canada has to rely on Nato has no defense. If not for US, canada would be under Afghan law

Canada having superior healthcare is as laughable as their military. The US has the premier medical schools, doctors, hospitals and specialists. NOBODY ever goes to canada for healthcare. Even the wealthy canadians leave canada for treatment. Canadian doctors just arent as smart because of inferior schooling, fact.

Again, canada is irrelevant. They have no influence in the world, at americas mercy.

LOL. Dude you're hilarious.

[Cap dat 4ss]

Casey Anthony was found not guilty but she didnt report her 2 year old missing for 31 days, seems suspicious.

[yisman]

LOL at you idiots from the south that vote GOP every election and live in the sun belt nations cess pool. Still believe the USA is kicking ass because FOX news tells you so. Despite the removal of our combat troops for Iraq US soldiers are getting blowed up left and right. If at the end of the year if our troops are not completely out of Iraq al Sadr says he is going to unleash the mahdi army. Afghanistan is hopelessly lost. Pakistan has told us to take our shit and leave. Despite 110+ days of bombing Libya Gaddafi is still alive and says he is going to start fuking things up in Europe. Keep supporting the troops maybe some day will find one of those tiny island nations like Grenada and really open a can of whoop ass.

Emily trying to debate CarpeDime.

People on this forum are so funny.

These threads are a waste of time, but they are good for one thing:

Clueless fukks taking CarpeDime seriously.

[Pareto]

This talk about olympic medals is irrelevant, however it did remind me of a fun fact:

Canada is the only country to host the summer olympics and then as a host not win a single gold medal. That happened in 1976 in Montreal. I doubt thats ever gonna happen again.

[NrmlCurvSurfr]

Emily anyone trying to debate CarpeDime anyone.

People on this forum are so funny.

These threads are a waste of time, but they are good for one thing:

Clueless fukks taking CarpeDime anyone seriously.

Fixed it for you.

[pavyracer]

This talk about olympic medals is irrelevant, however it did remind me of a fun fact:

Canada is the only country to host the summer olympics and then as a host not win a single gold medal. That happened in 1976 in Montreal. I doubt thats ever gonna happen again.

Thank you. I knew Canada sucked in Summer Olympics but this is an embarrassment of mega proportions.

[benjy]

Thank you. I knew Canada sucked in Summer Olympics but this is an embarrassment of mega proportions.

"Mission Accomplished"

[yisman]

Fixed it for you.

Some of these people are serious, though. For example, forsberg really is obsessed with the US.

[benjy]

Some of these people are serious, though. For example, forsberg really is obsessed with the US.

I'm not so sure he is. Obsessed that is. Yes he's upset and likes ranting about how he thinks things are screwed up in the US but I think that's a symptom, not the cause. Were he actually trying to convince people of his stands on things he'd be more diplomatic - being condescending is not the best method for swaying people to your side.

I think he like debating. And typing. And assaulting people with research and facts.

Whatever the reason I find him, and the responses to his posts, very entertaining.

[The Madcap]

Nearly 2 hours and only 7 replies... the truth must hurt.

More like hardworking successful people no longer see the point in wasting their time arguing with commie idiots.

In a country of 300 million different people, where some are interested in money and others interested in living a simple life, where some are smarter and some are dumber, where some are motivated and some are visionless, where some are diligent and others are lackadaisical, well when that type of diversity exists, as well as the freedom and responsibility to choose one's life path, you're going to have a country where a wide variety of income levels are spread across the economic ladder.

The USA has the most millionaires of any country in the world. It has the highest percentage of citizens who are millionaires of any other country. And more and more climbing up to that level every year. Look at the Forbes 400. Most of the names on that list are self-made men, or the children of self-made men. Bill Gates, the Waltons, the Koch brothers, Larry Ellison, Larry Page, Michael Dell, Paul Allen....these are the richest men in the United States. And none of them came from families with long standing wealth. A generation or two, max. And most come from middle of the road middle class families.

What does this tell us?

It tells us that you are full of shit.

It tells us that you don't have to be born rich to become rich, and in actuality, the overwhelming majority of the richest people in this country did not come from wealth. They CREATED it.

It isn't that the wealth in this country is concentrated in a few hands. It's that there have only been a few people in the country inventive enough, talented enough, willing enough and determined enough, to create the type of product or service that becomes so popular that millions of free and willing citizens will pay them to keep on making it. And thus, these few inventive folks become wealthy. These opportunities are available to anybody, from college dropouts (Gates), to the sons of farmers (Sam Walton), librarians (Allen), or immigrant printer's apprentices (Koch).

So take your whiny commie bullshit and shove it. If you want to make more money, convince someone with money that you have something valuable to provide them. If you have nothing valuable to provide, then you don't deserve any money. That's how freedom works.

We have the freedom to choose how we spend our money, you have the freedom to choose how to develop your ability in the best way to maximize your value. If you can't figure it out, tough shit. Move to Cuba or North Korea or some other country where the people want to be taken care of like infantile diaper crapping toddlers. Real men prefer their freedom. That's why they left Europe and came here. If you don't have a big enough dick to feel confident in your surroundings on this side of the Atlantic, then pack you fukking bags and move to Paris. Bitch.

[opie1988]

I think he like debating. And typing. And assaulting people with research and facts.
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OK!! So at least we (both US & Canada) can all agree that Forsberg is a huge-ass NERD!

This is great. A starting point to achieve forum peace. All thanks to Forsberg's indisputable nerdiness.

[pavyracer]

The Madcap finally delivers the knock out punch to forsberg21. There is no way Wikipedia can help him recover for this right uppercut to his jaw.

[yisman]

I'm not so sure he is. Obsessed that is. Yes he's upset and likes ranting about how he thinks things are screwed up in the US but I think that's a symptom, not the cause. Were he actually trying to convince people of his stands on things he'd be more diplomatic - being condescending is not the best method for swaying people to your side.

I think he like debating. And typing. And assaulting people with research and facts.

Whatever the reason I find him, and the responses to his posts, very entertaining.

I don't think his obsession is debatable. He starts at least five of these threads a week. If you'd like, you can say he's right about everything (which is of course subjective), but it's pretty hard to say he's not obsessed. He spends his days on this.

Were he actually trying to convince people of his stands on things he'd be more diplomatic - being condescending is not the best method for swaying people to your side.

Of course not, but most people arguing on the Internet aren't aware of such subtleties. The way for most is to be as condescending and insulting as they can.

It's always hard to say exactly what the motivation is behind such things, but when it comes to the question of obsession, there can be no doubt, as there isn't with Emily Haines and Chambers99.

[yisman]

For normal people:

The whole arguing about whose country is best is pure folly. Every country has plenty of skeletons in its closet, and hundreds of pages could be written about the problems and corruption of any major country.

[ByeShea]

Is there anything else you'd like to add?

I'd like to add that you must have a lot more going on in your life than anyone else here seeing as you've devoted every day of the past 2 years to being angry at America on a sports gambling online forum.

[William Walters]

Anybody else notice that forsberg never posts during prime-time pizza delivery hours?

[acarmelo1]

Anybody else notice that forsberg never posts during prime-time pizza delivery hours?

[Cap dat 4ss]

Anybody else notice that forsberg never posts during prime-time pizza delivery hours?

Buried again. Every thread