SBRodds beta now has rots and one-click line history & yesterday odds....

[Bill Dozer]

For anyone interested in following and testing the beta....we've been workin on your suggestions and publishing another update early next week with more intuitive drop-down and darker grid lines. Thanks guys

http://www.sbrforum.com/betting-odds/

[jjgold]

Billy keep plugging away
You guys will make this work
One of most critical products SBR has

I think all the negative remarks will make the service top notch in future

[cant call it]

looks good bill, thx

[doublej95]

looking forward to see the new updates.

[jjgold]

I still think this product will be good
Football has to be a target day though to work out the issues posters are complaining about

[Bill Dozer]

Billy keep plugging away
You guys will make this work
One of most critical products SBR has

I think all the negative remarks will make the service top notch in future

Negative remarks are good. People usually find the thing they dislike the most and we can go after those. We do need the help testing. Ideally people give us feedback before we push it live so they get what they ask for. That's why you guys get sick of us talking about beta beta beta

[rfr3sh]

did you fix the problem where only the away teams odds update on the clickable line history

[rfr3sh]

also whats up with the time stamps

[onlooker]

Thanks for the ROT #'s. Notice that a few days ago. Also need to may it sort by ROT's. I still use the BETA to see the improvements.

Can you fix the select feature? You can select the games, but there is no way to just show the "selected" games.

Thanks.

[Domestic]

Thanks for the update.

[BetterBizness]

The old odds site and the new odds site give different line histories... Not good... Clearly if you are a line watcher you see the differences...

[benjy]

I use Chrome, if that matters.

I still can't see how the new version is any improvement but I may be hung up on the things that are worse.

For instance:

Cannot sort by time or rotation #

one click is now somewhat better but still less functional than the old site (only data from specific (e.g. totals) given)

no directions from home to center field

no hover over for TV (well, I thought I saw one but it vanished. i attribute it to a flashback).

Why are you changing it? Or what is better? Seriously, I see no improvements at all.

Sorry.

[Bill Dozer]

also whats up with the time stamps

They should all be on EST now.

Thanks for the ROT #'s. Notice that a few days ago. Also need to may it sort by ROT's. I still use the BETA to see the improvements.

Under the settings (top right of SBRodds menu) you can now sort by ROT or times. One on-page click will be there soon.

Can you fix the select feature? You can select the games, but there is no way to just show the "selected" games.
Thanks.

Right, very few people used this feature and the idea was to allow people to flag the games on big card days while still watching the full slate. I think isolating games will have wait for the spreadsheet feature sorry to say.

I use Chrome, if that matters.
I still can't see how the new version is any improvement but I may be hung up on the things that are worse.

Hi benjy, If you care about getting the lines faster, you're using the beta. Scores are also faster. Scores now come with play by play so you can see your positions without going to yahoo and checking status of all in progress bet games. One click turns that off. It will load faster and with new controls, ultimately mean less downtime for book feeds who alter them without warning.

The old SBRodds needed to be rebuilt because the things it does, or did, wasn't scalable for the amount of traffic we are now seeing. A simple thing like isolating games on another page can mean X times more connections to service. That's fine when it's 50 people. When it's 500, things break or slow and need to be built for larger scale use.

For instance:

Cannot sort by time or rotation #

It's under settings.

one click is now somewhat better but still less functional than the old site (only data from specific (e.g. totals) given)

A suggestion is to use the tab feature so you can watch sides and totals. We have prioritized other features over having all the lines pop up at once when you click on totals.

no directions from home to center field

no hover over for TV (well, I thought I saw one but it vanished. i attribute it to a flashback).

If you hover over the header, you'll see the TV channels for all games instead of that one game.

Why are you changing it? Or what is better? Seriously, I see no improvements at all.

When controls and functionality change after 5 years, it's never fun. You have to relearn it. I get pissed when I'm pressed for time and my bank put the menu on the top instead of the side. For anyone who isn't already looking for it to work one way, it will be easier and work like more sites do today.

Sorry.

No worries. Bring the pain.

The old odds site and the new odds site give different line histories... Not good... Clearly if you are a line watcher you see the differences...

SBRodds checks the file the book offers us in intervals, as fast as the individual book allows. In some cases it's every 10 seconds. If the book updates the file every 30 seconds, it's possible for both the new and old SBRodds to be 30 seconds different. Line history should be accurate in terms of being the right line at the time and when the website received the data.

[ouman101]

I'll have to wait until 7 to see, but did you guys fix the issue that if you had sbrodds (beta) open prior to the game starting it would never show you any baserunners? Only way to get them was if you refreshed the page once the game started. I'm using Firefox if that matters.

Also, as Benji mentioned, it was nice how the old version included the direction from home plate to center so you knew if the wind was blowing in or out.

[jgilmartin]

Under the settings (top right of SBRodds menu) you can now sort by ROT or times. One on-page click will be there soon.

******* nice. Hugely important feature. Great job.

[Waterstpub87]

Anyway to put consensus numbers up front next to the games on the main page like the odd one does. It helps to target which games I'm interested in.

[BobHarvey]

For anyone interested in following and testing the beta....we've been workin on your suggestions and publishing another update early next week with more intuitive drop-down and darker grid lines. Thanks guys

http://www.sbrforum.com/betting-odds/

Bill,

My two cents. That's a great looking odds page. I've got it saved in my favorites

[SBR_John]

Much better.

[Bill Dozer]

I'll have to wait until 7 to see, but did you guys fix the issue that if you had sbrodds (beta) open prior to the game starting it would never show you any baserunners? Only way to get them was if you refreshed the page once the game started. I'm using Firefox if that matters.

We observed the same thing with 2nd hlvs NBA. You had to refresh to start viewing the line. That was covered in today's update and is being tested now. Please tell us if you see the issue again.

Also, as Benji mentioned, it was nice how the old version included the direction from home plate to center so you knew if the wind was blowing in or out.

We'll have to address that tomorrow.

[Bill Dozer]

Anyway to put consensus numbers up front next to the games on the main page like the odd one does. It helps to target which games I'm interested in.

When we refine that data to all bets on each side, we will. Shouldn't be long.

[ouman101]

We observed the same thing with 2nd hlvs NBA. You had to refresh to start viewing the line. That was covered in today's update and is being tested now. Please tell us if you see the issue again. We'll have to address that tomorrow.

The base runner problem seems to be fixed now. Glad to see that you guys will be adding the plate to center directions also. You guys are doing a good job listening to everyone and making key adjustments. Isn't it nice to have all of us guinea pigs?

[jjgold]

I think it is starting to look better, I see rotation numbers now also

Orders came down from top corporate guys that this product is a top priority

[Bill Dozer]

JJ, please don't call more tonight. We'll get it for you in the morning. Promise.

[benjy]

Thanks for listening to all our concerns. Much appreciated.

It may just be an adjustment to the new interface (ala your bank example) but I'm not sold on the pop-out for line history. It blocks what you can see. Could you make it a drop-down like the information?

As for the information: it takes up a ton of screen space. Any way to shrink it down? Perhaps by condensing the information displayed? Or maybe a scroll bar?

[Bill Dozer]

Benjy, Can you PM me and tell me more about what you mean? Im not sure Im following.

[jjgold]

JJ, please don't call more tonight. We'll get it for you in the morning. Promise.

yes sir

[rfr3sh]

now when you click the odds to pop up the team names are switched

[Carl 1326]

The line history is just a blank screen for me. Maybe it's my pc? The old site has no ML history for Phily or SD games but the new site does but... I cant see the total line history at the beta site. Weird^&%#
Carl

[iceminers26]

Good: I can at least now click off of money line and go to totals and such on the new site, good job.

Bad: As Carl above me noted, when I click on line history it is just a blank screen, and this isn't just a one day event, I have had this problem since it was created.


It also seems the old odds page was abandoned with not even posting pitchers anymore from time time or having them listed wrong. I understand you want posters to use the new one because a lot of work went into it, but hope you correct this errors on the new one. Thanks.

[jjgold]

It is starting to look cleaner, still of course bugs

Keep hammering product boys when you see fit because it will make it better

Techs got called in again

[GamblingMike]

Good stuff.

[Carl 1326]

I posted on another thread my request to not neglect the old page till the new one has all tha bugs worked out. Line history on some games missing at old site but show up on beta if you do the "i" button.
Carl

[Flight]

At one point you said BetPhoenix would be back. I still don't see it.

[DRZ]

One suggestions would be for the consensus percentages to be displayed on the front page next to the teams. Like it is in the old version. Instead of having to open a tab/drop down thing for each separate game. Thats kinda annoying.

[Bill Dozer]

At one point you said BetPhoenix would be back. I still don't see it.

I'll check on that. We have about 8 books to add to the new site. Thanks