Kobe is CLUTCH.....

freeVICK · 05-21-08, 11:03 PM

kobe is the man

Cloak & Dagger · 05-21-08, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by MadCapper

And thats is the most significant difference between him and James.

And thats why James will NEVER win a title.

Kobe has always had a squad and david stern

James has college and nbdl players

big difference

dwaechte · 05-21-08, 11:14 PM

Originally posted by MadCapper

And thats why James will NEVER win a title.

Thats just an absurd statement. Not that I'm saying he will, but saying he never will when you don't even know what team he'll be playing for in 3 years is a little much.

Tsoprano · 05-21-08, 11:19 PM

Helps when refs side with them on a lot of possessions down the stretch.

But yes, truly a legend.

jjgold · 05-22-08, 06:30 AM

Kobe is not half the player James is at 23

James on a good team wins 10 titles

MadCapper · 05-22-08, 07:53 AM

Until James starts HITTING the clutch shots at the end of games, he will never win a championship.

Once he proves he can, Championships will come to him easily.

MadCapper · 05-29-08, 11:47 PM

kobe is solid.

The_Kid · 05-29-08, 11:47 PM

Amazing performance tonight by the MVP!

gordon gekko · 05-29-08, 11:48 PM

Kobe is the best player in the NBA right now.

Panic · 05-29-08, 11:50 PM

James has already went to the finals at the age of 22 with no help and you say he will never win a title. C'mon, **...you're better than that. If LeBron gets a decent shooting guard around him that can take the pressure to score off of him, say goodnight. He easily gets back to the Finals a few times in his career.

MadCapper · 05-29-08, 11:53 PM

Panic,

He wont win until he becomes clutch like Jordan, Kobe, Magic, Bird in crunch time.

andybord · 05-29-08, 11:57 PM

Not fair to compare Lebron to Kobe right now...They are at different spots in their careers....Lebron is on his way to being as good as Kobe....

Interesting how little Kobe got to the foul line the last 2 games....

Panic · 05-29-08, 11:57 PM

Originally posted by MadCapper

Panic,

He wont win until he becomes clutch like Jordan, Kobe, Magic, Bird in crunch time.

He's a different player, **. He isnt a shooting guard. He doesnt need to learn to hit clutch shots in crunch time. What he needs is players that can shot those for him, because he is more of a point guard/small forward. Basically, he is more Magic than he is Jordan. If you give him a team like Magic had, he easily wins 6 rings, if you give him a team like Kobe had with Shaq, he easily wins 4 rings. Thats the truth.

daggerkobe · 05-30-08, 12:04 AM

James never had help? He's had several teammates that made the all-stars and clutch shooters that made clutch shots when James was too much of a pussy to take em.

Kobe hasn't had an all-star teammate in 4 years since Shaq left.
Hes been stuck with benchwarmers and rejects like Smush who was cut by several NBA teams and had to play in Europe.

MJFtheGenius · 05-30-08, 12:06 AM

not only is kobe more talented but he has the fire in him and the wil to win

james is more worried about making friends

Panic · 05-30-08, 12:07 AM

Originally posted by daggerkobe

James never had help? He's had several teammates that made the all-stars and clutch shooters that made clutch shots when James was too much of a pussy to take em.

Kobe hasn't had an all-star teammate in 4 years since Shaq left.
Hes been stuck with benchwarmers and rejects like Smush who was cut by several NBA teams and had to play in Europe.

Yeah and when was the last time Kobe made the Finals since Shaq left? I mean you and everyone else say hes so great. He wouldnt be in the Finals if they didnt steal Gasol. Right?

Panic · 05-30-08, 12:08 AM

Originally posted by MJFtheGenius

not only is kobe more talented but he has the fire in him and the wil to win

james is more worried about making friends

No Phil Jackson. No Gasol. No Kobe in the Finals. And no Kobe in LA anymore.

WileOut · 05-30-08, 12:09 AM

Did you not see the Pistons series last year? James had a game in that series that was as good as any playoff game Jordan ever had. He was as clutch as it gets in that game and the whole series. He has absolutely no help. Wally Szerbiak? LMAO.

When they expand the NBA and bring a team to Brooklyn, James is going there and they are going to build a dynasty around him. Mark my words in 7 years this statement will be a fact. Brooklyn basketball with James surrounded by great players.

Thor4140 · 05-30-08, 12:09 AM

Originally posted by Cloak & Dagger

Kobe has always had a squad and david stern

James has college and nbdl players

big difference

How did James make out in the olympics?

MJFtheGenius · 05-30-08, 12:11 AM

talent alone does not win in the NBA

everyone is talented

good teams win

Kobe does not deserve the blame for their losing seasons in the past

MJFtheGenius · 05-30-08, 12:12 AM

Originally posted by WileOut

Did you not see the Pistons series last year? James had a game in that series that was as good as any playoff game Jordan ever had. He was as clutch as it gets in that game and the whole series. He has absolutely no help. Wally Szerbiak? LMAO.

When they expand the NBA and bring a team to Brooklyn, James is going there and they are going to build a dynasty around him. Mark my words in 7 years this statement will be a fact. Brooklyn basketball with James surrounded by great players.

I always have to correct this guy

Hey guy no one doubled James in that series

Guy Flip saunders is an idiot and that is the only reason he was able to do that

Panic · 05-30-08, 12:12 AM

Originally posted by WileOut

Did you not see the Pistons series last year? James had a game in that series that was as good as any playoff game Jordan ever had. He was as clutch as it gets in that game and the whole series. He has absolutely no help. Wally Szerbiak? LMAO.

When they expand the NBA and bring a team to Brooklyn, James is going there and they are going to build a dynasty around him. Mark my words in 7 years this statement will be a fact. Brooklyn basketball with James surrounded by great players.

Wileout, these guys wont listen. They think Kobe is great. LeBron sucks. Period. LeBron carried a team to the Finals on his back. Kobe carried the Lakers to 1st round losses on his back. Now that he has Gasol, he wins. And everyone says "Look at Kobe, Look at Kobe".LOL. Yeah, hes the reason.

MJFtheGenius · 05-30-08, 12:13 AM

I have sais Kobe is the best player for a long time now

not just after this year

Panic · 05-30-08, 12:13 AM

Originally posted by MJFtheGenius

I always have to correct this guy

Hey guy no one doubled James in that series

Guy Flip saunders is an idiot and that is the only reason he was able to do that

MJF. I like your posts, but what?! LeBron didnt get double teamed in the 4th of that game?

Panic · 05-30-08, 12:15 AM

Originally posted by MJFtheGenius

I have sais Kobe is the best player for a long time now

not just after this year

I'll be the first to say Kobe is a fantastic player, but c'mon. Lets put things in perspective. Kobe cant win without major help. Bottomline. He needed Shaq. Now he needs Gasol. Next year he'll need Bynum. And all the while needing Phil Jackson. The 4 years they gave him reign, he sucked balls. They missed the playoffs one year and couldnt get out of the 1st round the rest. Even when they had a 3-1 lead on Phoenix.

Thor4140 · 05-30-08, 12:15 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Kobe is not half the player James is at 23

James on a good team wins 10 titles

JJ how did James make out the year he was on the olympic team in o4 or the other good team in 06. He led them to two bronze medals

Thor4140 · 05-30-08, 12:17 AM

Originally posted by Panic

He's a different player, **. He isnt a shooting guard. He doesnt need to learn to hit clutch shots in crunch time. What he needs is players that can shot those for him, because he is more of a point guard/small forward. Basically, he is more Magic than he is Jordan. If you give him a team like Magic had, he easily wins 6 rings, if you give him a team like Kobe had with Shaq, he easily wins 4 rings. Thats the truth.

He was on two great teams and he got two bronze medals

MJFtheGenius · 05-30-08, 12:17 AM

neither can lebron, they got swept in the finals could not win 1 game

Detroit imploded last year

This is the NBA you can't wait until the 4th quarter of game 6 to double team with Rasheed going crazy. When you let any elite player get hot you are done

Panic · 05-30-08, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by Thor4140

JJ how did James make out the year he was on the olympic team in o4 or the other good team in 06. He led them to two bronze medals

How many gold has Kobe won?

Panic · 05-30-08, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by Thor4140

He was on two great teams and he got two bronze medals

What are you talking about Thor?

MJFtheGenius · 05-30-08, 12:19 AM

Kobe has the heart to win and he can shoot

lebron is just entertainment and that is all he wants to be

Kobe wants to win he is not worried about making friends

Panic · 05-30-08, 12:19 AM

Originally posted by MJFtheGenius

neither can lebron, they got swept in the finals could not win 1 game

Detroit imploded last year

This is the NBA you can't wait until the 4th quarter of game 6 to double team with Rasheed going crazy. When you let any elite player get hot you are done

Okay they got swept, but the point remains, LeBron carried them there.

Thor4140 · 05-30-08, 12:20 AM

Originally posted by Panic

Wileout, these guys wont listen. They think Kobe is great. LeBron sucks. Period. LeBron carried a team to the Finals on his back. Kobe carried the Lakers to 1st round losses on his back. Now that he has Gasol, he wins. And everyone says "Look at Kobe, Look at Kobe".LOL. Yeah, hes the reason.

Kobe just played a terrific series against the best defender in the league. When Lebron went up against this same defender in the finals last year he got shut right down just like all average shooter would.

MJFtheGenius · 05-30-08, 12:20 AM

....and what is up with that childish thing lebron does where he claps his hands and all the rossin makes a big cloud. just play the game