Ghostbusters (Help SBR!)

[number1]

problem is out of the 5 who signed it, probably only 2-3 people

[pokernut9999]

The Prick is one of the mods here. Can anyone guess who ?

[SBR Lou]

I can't believe no one else caught that, Ganch quoted my post a second time then it was deleted within 20-25 seconds and when I refreshed page Tacomax had a reply made...

I swear on anything. Not hallucinating.

[number1]

I can't believe no one else caught that, Ganch quoted my post a second time then it was deleted within 20-25 seconds and when I refreshed page Tacomax had a reply made...

I swear on anything. Not hallucinating.

seems FISHy

[pico]

i don't mind ghosts...as long as they don't gang up on you and attack.

[Ganchrow]

I can't believe no one else caught that, Ganch quoted my post a second time then it was deleted within 20-25 seconds and when I refreshed page Tacomax had a reply made...

I swear on anything. Not hallucinating.

I had inadvertently double posted. The second post had quoted your earlier post while the first did not.

Nothing more to it than that.

[SBR Lou]

I had inadvertently double posted. The second post had quoted your earlier post while the first did not.

Nothing more to it than that.

Ah alright. It almost looked like you quoted w/ the wrong account, that would've been ironic as hell. Especially with both of you quoting the same paragraph of mine.

I believe you though, I just wasn't sure where that post went.

[Ganchrow]

I don't know what else to say.

I've told you exactly what I know. If you have access to evidence that runs contrary to any of my claims you're more than welcome to present it.

[mofome]

The Prick is one of the mods here. Can anyone guess who ?

Dozer?

[imgv94]

I can't believe no one else caught that, Ganch quoted my post a second time then it was deleted within 20-25 seconds and when I refreshed page Tacomax had a reply made...

I swear on anything. Not hallucinating.

Pretty Fishy indeed.. Interesting hmm.

Nonetheless I'll sign..

1.) ChuteBoxe
2.) Diogee
3.) Crazyl
4.) NEP Dynasty
5.) Number1
6.) imgv94

[Iwinyourmoney]

Iwinyourmoney in. Ghosts are gay get a life ghostys

[capitalist pig]

Ive signed far worse things than this in my lifetime

1.) ChuteBoxe
2.) Diogee
3.) Crazyl
4.) NEP Dynasty
5.) Number1
6.) imgv94
7. capitalist pig

later

[jjgold]

I love it when guys think I am like 20 guys, that is what makes me so powerful here. Any new guy can post and they think it is me. I am bigger than this board and will always be that way until guys stop acting like me and other guys stop thinking I ghost.

All your doing is making me bigger and bigger here with all negative stuff.

[purecarnagge]

Hey ... you may be right ... you may well be in possession of evidence to which we're not privy. If so, please do share it with us, and I can promise you that if it checks out appropriate action will be swiftly taken.

That said, in the absence of legitimately verifiable evidence, it's difficult to give the claim that ghosts run rampant on SBR Forum any serious consideration. Just making the a priori declaration that "everyone knows it to be true" holds little water.

Are you really this dumb and believe people aren't ghosting? IP addresses could be checked easily and THEY SHOULD BE.

[Ganchrow]

Are you really this dumb and believe people aren't ghosting? IP addresses could be checked easily and THEY SHOULD BE.

I suppose I'm just dumb enough to refuse to believe a proposition when the only evidence offered in support of it is the say-so of a man of your consummate intellectual stature.

Read what I'm saying and read carefully. IP addresses are checked for ghosts on a daily basis. Not monthly, not weekly ... but daily. Users are permitted one and only one active account. If a user is found with more than that, any such ghost accounts are shut down. This is what happens now. This is the status quo.

Users attempt to create ghost accounts all the time. If they do this by using duplicate e-mail or IP addresses they will be caught and one of their accounts will be shut down. This happens all the time. If they repeatedly attempt this, they'll eventually face forum bans ranging in length from a few weeks to a few years to a few lifetimes.

Do we definitely catch all ghosts? Well as insofar as a usesr exist who are clever enough to consistently ghost using multiple IP addresses, then no, we do not. That said, if you (or anyone else) has any evidence whatsoever that a user is ghosting you are more than welcome to present it.

Unsubstantiated claims, however, will be given exactly the respect they deserve.

[mofome]

I love it when guys think I am like 20 guys, that is what makes me so powerful here. Any new guy can post and they think it is me. I am bigger than this board and will always be that way until guys stop acting like me and other guys stop thinking I ghost.

All your doing is making me bigger and bigger here with all negative stuff.

People think im 24 guys and girls. I win.

[Ganchrow]

I suppose I'm just dumb enough to refuse to believe a proposition when the only evidence offered in support of it is the say-so of a man of your consummate intellectual stature.

Read what I'm saying and read carefully. IP addresses are checked for ghosts on a daily basis. Not monthly, not weekly ... but daily. Users are permitted one and only one active account. If a user is found with more than that, any such ghost accounts are shut down. This is what happens now. This is the status quo.

Users attempt to create ghost accounts all the time. If they do is using duplicate e-mail or IP addresses they will be caught and one of their accounts will be shut down. This happens all the time. If they repeatedly attempt this, they'll eventually face forum bans ranging in length from a few weeks to a few years to a few lifetimes.

Do we definitely catch all ghosts? Well as insofar as a usesr exist who are clever enough to consistently ghost using multiple IP addresses, then no, we do not. That said, if you (or anyone else) has any evidence whatsoever that a user is ghosting you are more than welcome to present it.

Unsubstantiated claims, however, will be given exactly the respect they deserve.

Just for the record, this had always been SBR policy right up until the time of the above posting.

This does not imply that going forward the policy won't change.

[TexansFan]

If in fact there are no ghosts on this site, then I guess it means that there are some people who post here who lead sad, pathetic, lonely lives. You would have to be a total loser in life to pretend to be someone else.

I tend to believe most of the posters who think it's even remotely funny to pretend to talk and act like JJ are retards who still live at home.

Actually, saying that is an insult to all retards out there.

[mofome]

If in fact there are no ghosts on this site, then I guess it means that there are some people who post here who lead sad, pathetic, lonely lives. You would have to be a total loser in life to pretend to be someone else.

I tend to believe most of the posters who think it's even remotely funny to pretend to talk and act like JJ are retards who still live at home.

Actually, saying that is an insult to all retards out there.

I don't think weird people even know that they're weird. Thats the worrisome part of it all.

Someone could quote this and say something like "case and point", but that wouldn't be all that clever.

Fact is, there are some oddly insecure people on this site and i don't know if i should feel bad for them, offer them e-hugs, or just try my best to ignore them.

[Bill Dozer]

I think the definition of a forum ghost is someone pretending to be someone they are not in order to dupe the board. Without writing a how-to on ghosting, we do discourage this and do what we can. We don't want employees of gambling sites coming in to prop up their business. The few disruptive posters who are on vacation have to do their time before coming back. There are other safeguards we put in place for forum contests which make sure people get a fair shot for their efforts.

But keep in mind that posting boards, for the most part, are anonymous. The best way for the mod team to invest in our board is to help keep things civil and the discussion flowing. We do have guys who say they post from the same office, are roommates, and even posters who might have been cappers here for a while but would like to get girlfriend advice from the Players Talk crew without having to expose their name. We also have people who will grab a new screen name instead of pursuing a lost password. We don't have a problem with any of that. At the same time, if a guy goes through the trouble of doing a puppet show with 5 screen names... that's not good for discussion and he/she will be asked to pick a name. We don't want the board to get polluted but we don't require an ID to post. That makes it impossible for any forum to know and pursue 100% who is behind the name.

If you do think a forum is overrun by ghosts, you can assume admin is fully aware.

We have very few multiple handles from the same computer active and with the top-notch job our mods do, and now the posters with the "report post" option, there is little to gain from trying to get over on our group.

[SBR Lou]

Bill,

Isn't it impossible to catch them all though? 9 people signed this petition so far. There are some new accounts which are borderline painfully obvious and while I respect Ganch's evidence only POV, when you have so many regulars speaking out on something chances are they may be right. Guys like Chute, Capitalistic Pig, Dio especially are more tight lipped w/ complaints, when they say something there's a reason for it.

Not every ghoster is a total internet noob, if someone is using an anonymous web browser that proxifies their session how can you match the Ip's..? Some of those services are very good and free. It's your guys job to focus more on the operational standpoint of the forum, sometimes the members are better at noticing discrepancies in the community. I think there may be a middle ground somewhere in that maybe because of the interest here, you can add an extra layer of identifier security such as MAC addy etc, and in turn we will just report posts when we feel you may have missed one.

[chipski]

I love it when guys think I am like 20 guys, that is what makes me so powerful here. Any new guy can post and they think it is me. I am bigger than this board and will always be that way until guys stop acting like me and other guys stop thinking I ghost.

All your doing is making me bigger and bigger here with all negative stuff.

your'e powerful ? serious ?
lmao

[Immortality]

I hate ghosts, especially on this message board.


1.) ChuteBoxe
2.) Diogee
3.) Crazyl
4.) NEP Dynasty
5.) Number1
6.) imgv94
7.) capitalist pig
8.) Immortality

[WE EAT FISH]

1.) ChuteBoxe
2.) Diogee
3.) Crazyl
4.) NEP Dynasty
5.) Number1
6.) imgv94
7.) capitalist pig
8.) Immortality
9.) ME

[SBR Lou]

Iwinyourmoney in. Ghosts are gay get a life ghostys

1.) ChuteBoxe
2.) Diogee
3.) Crazyl
4.) NEP Dynasty
5.) Number1
6.) imgv94
7.) capitalist pig
8.) Immortality
9.) ME
10.)Iwinyourmoney

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[pico]

i don't know which one is worse. jj running a puppet show or bunch of pathetic losers pretend to be jj. i am giving jj the benefit of the doubt, so i think mathdotcom and campaqdikk are just two weirdos who pretend to be jj.

[raiders72002]

Ghosting occurs at all sites and you can just use a proxy server if you want to ghost bad enough. I don't see a problem with ghosts here.

[mofome]

I know a site that pays people to ghost.

[pico]

I know a site that pays people to ghost.

taking a cheap shot at EOG again?

[mofome]

taking a cheap shot at EOG again?

define 'cheap'? if honesty is cheap then...well still no. facts are facts, different people use different models. that aint my call hot shot.

[raiders72002]

I know a site that pays people to ghost

other sites do it too. Some pay and some just allow the ghosts go because the ghosts create traffic.

[Sportsgirl]

1.) ChuteBoxe
2.) Diogee
3.) Crazyl
4.) NEP Dynasty
5.) Number1
6.) imgv94
7.) capitalist pig
8.) Immortality
9.) ME

Hey, if a ghost signs up, is this still valid?

[ChuteBoxe]

Hey, if a ghost signs up, is this still valid?

As of this point, I'm actually quite confident that SBR is definitely patroling for ghosts. Yeah, a few might slip by, but what are you going to do? There's probably better methods, like some of the online banks use, that get through 99% of the proxies, but I mean, financially, it just isn't worth it. Also, considering how many people complain about this topic, and the views this thread received, I'm quite dissapointed in the fact that only 10 or 11 signed it. That proves to me, a lot of the people besides those that did sign, are just blowing smoke out of their asses. Can we finally put this subject to rest now? I'm tired of seeing it everyday, and with the lack of support from the poster on the topic, it leads me to believe that the people obsessed with it, are some of the people who do actually get away with it. As I said in one of my posts on this thread, I'd be satisfied if all this thread did, was put this subject to rest once and for all, or at least temporarily.

[ChuteBoxe]

Also, I want to thank Bill for coming in here, and addressing the issue at hand. He's extremely busy with the business aspects of the site, and he went out of his way, along with Ganch, to explain to us what was going on. A lot of us sometimes forget, there is way more to SBR, then just this forum. Thanks again Bill for proving to me once again, that you're a stand-up guy in many different aspects.

[Bill Dozer]

Thanks Chute. To answer Crazy's question, there is no 100% silver bullet. AOL, MySpace, Yahoo, ESPN forums and even eBay...they all have the same challenges to do what's best for users. If a website wanted to they could ask users to download a GUID for their machine but that becomes intrusive. You don't want to intrude on privacy or get to the point where it's a hassle to join the community. It's a fine line. We just have to focus on improving the board and making sure posters have the room they need.

The forums that cater to specific topics will help manage themselves. The Players Talk board will always be a little wild with the wide range of topics.