BETUS just screwed me out of 18,300 dollars!

[SSLP]

Thanks its true though , you need to know the outcome....

[pimike]

Why that was an excellant point.

As for BetUs I hate that book.

Bonus rules are teribble no payout for any money above or beyond deposit. Take a game -200 only what u win counts towards roll overs, they don't count the risk on a fav.


Betus (no thanks)

[beetman]

They deal dual lines and don't pay. Avoid!

[tomcowley]

Take a game -200 only what u win counts towards roll overs, they don't count the risk on a fav.

This is common, even among top books.

[SSLP]

True , if you want to avoid a hassle then dont take a bonus

[jakster30]

there might be some hope!

i got a call from Dan at BETUS yesterday and told me he might of been to harsh with me and he wants to come to a resolution with me (remember i'm the guy who got screwed out of 18,300)...i will keep all of u posted on what happens...

[jakster30]

Update!

As off all of you know Betus froze my account after i won a big parlay...DAN contacted me and said he would try to work it out...that was 3 days ago! after trying to reach him every hour for the last 3 days ...i finally spoke to him...he said he could only pay me a 100 dollars a week bec they have NO MONEY right now! and if i dont like it then tough!...this is outrageous!...BETUS is a bunch of crooks...do not put a dime into this book...i feel it is my duty now to warn others! I WILL NOT STOP UNTILL THEY R OUT OF BUSINESSS!

[Shark79]

Jackster,

Why keep so much funds in the account?

Smart players dont take bonuses

U thought it was gonna be easy? Not in this bizz

[jakster30]

i didnt take a bonus...and i won all of it on a parlay! and yes i did think they would pay...stupid i know but thats how books stay in business! if they dont ppl will find out..

[Justin7]

Give us time to sort this out. If you did nothing wrong, you'll get paid.

[SBR_John]

Give us time to sort this out. If you did nothing wrong, you'll get paid.

hope you're right but they have been doing this same type scam since Moby Dick was a minnow. The mgmt there would probably like to pay but the owners are a different story. Good luck getting this settled.

[Bill Dozer]

These days a once a payout is confirmed as processed you are out of the woods. But, I still would not want to be a player with a wagering dispute where a large amount is at stake. So far it seems they are doing what they want in this case as if it is negotiable. We hope to discuss with mgt. by Monday morning.

[SBR Lou]

hope you're right but they have been doing this same type scam since Moby Dick was a minnow. The mgmt there would probably like to pay but the owners are a different story. Good luck getting this settled.

You should have seen the douche bags across the street fighting tooth and nail to fluff up BetUS.

[arie1985]

As off all of you know Betus froze my account after i won a big parlay...DAN contacted me and said he would try to work it out...that was 3 days ago! after trying to reach him every hour for the last 3 days ...i finally spoke to him...he said he could only pay me a 100 dollars a week bec they have NO MONEY right now! and if i dont like it then tough!...this is outrageous!...BETUS is a bunch of crooks...do not put a dime into this book...i feel it is my duty now to warn others! I WILL NOT STOP UNTILL THEY R OUT OF BUSINESSS!

I think SBR should warn people on that book.
There could be too many others if there won't be warnings.

[purecarnagge]

they are giving 100% on on deposits again. I redeposited there min just to have some action flowing again.

But don't worry I won't post if they scam, or give me the run around. I'll just wait 6 weeks and recieve my check just like the other two times.

[SBR_John]

OK purec. Just so you know there are guys still waiting years. They dont pay everyone every time. Its a risk/reward question..

[bettilimbroke999]

OK purec. Just so you know there are guys still waiting years. They dont pay everyone every time. Its a risk/reward question..

The road to the SBR complaint form is paved with 100% bonuses.

[purecarnagge]

50.00 to bet 100.00. Just recreational for me. I can let something like that slide with the lady until we close on our house.

[JC]

Any update on these crooks?

[Justin7]

I've addressed over 100 complaints against BetUS, although I don't have this dispute. In every dispute I've had in my time with SBR, BetUS has treated the player fairly. They have also been very prompt in responding to my inquiries. While this is no guarantee of fair treatment, I'm inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt until I personally see something clear.

[Justin7]

Any update on these crooks?

JC,

If you know of an outstanding screw-job by BetUS that hasn't been resolved, would you please repost the details? I'll be happy to take another crack at it. That, and I don't want to carry an inflated impression of BetUS if there is an long-term outstanding problem.

[JC]

Here's an outstanding BetUs screw job:

http://therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=203788&highlight=betus

Technically it was resolved, but they ultimately stole money since they forced the player to post up more money and middle his way out of there. There were others at the time taht were forced into settlements.

And then there's this one which I was asking about. Any updates? Is this a valid claim?

[robzilla]

I wouldve just cashed out a little at a time.... i know you shouldnt have to, but look who ur dealing with.

[arie1985]

Here's an outstanding BetUs screw job:

http://therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=203788&highlight=betus

Technically it was resolved, but they ultimately stole money since they forced the player to post up more money and middle his way out of there. There were others at the time taht were forced into settlements.

And then there's this one which I was asking about. Any updates? Is this a valid claim?

I've just read the entire story... shocked... no words... how come this business is still 'alive'?

[purecarnagge]

Because they have high page ranking and they advertise everywhere.... I believe they also pay companies to remove bad press/comments in forums down to be lower in the search engine. Betus is very good with SEO. Search engine optimization.

They are a pretty shitty book but its on my credit card.

[bigboydan]

BetUS (SBR rating D+) informs player of $18,300 confiscation

The bettor made his first deposit of $1,000 in April which he lost. BetUs contacted him to give him a $100 bonus which he also lost. The player made a second deposit of $1,000 on April 18th. He then made winning parlay wagers that brought his account to $18,300. He was told by management that the [iSBRFORUM]BetUs[/iSBRFORUM] credit card processor has informed them of a ********** dispute with poker site, Ultimatebet, that it also services. The player claims BetUs told him in order to get a payout he would have to settle the dispute with Ultimatebet. The player sent [iSBRFORUM]Ultimatebet[/iSBRFORUM] $2,000 which cleared the credit card dispute and reopened the account in good standing. After resolving the issue with Ultimatebet, BetUS told the player they are keeping his winnings.

Player: On 4/10 i made a deposit of 1000, on 4/18 i made a deposit of 1000. I made a 5 team parlay on 4/18 - mets,nationals,brewers, cardinals -1 1/2, and indians that paid off around 13k...on the same day i made a 2 team parlay, indians -1 1/2 and whitesox -1 1/2 that paid off around 3k...(a few smaller bets also but not significant) the next day i went to withdraw and they froze my account...when they unfroze it for an hour a week later when i cleared up everything i made a few bets and won another 1600 mostly on the laker-nuggets game 3...On April 29th I spoke to Dan and he told me he is "confiscating my account", "we dont want your business" and he will reverse the 2 charges that i made BETUS

[luciano]

Well.......I guess he left the UB ********** out of his story?

[Cloak & Dagger]

**********??

lol....I have no words

[tomcowley]

Let's give BetUS credit for introducing the 419 scam to offshore sportsbooks. Truly an industry leader.

[frostno98]

Betus should at least showed some class by making some stupid @ss excuse like, "uh, were taking your winnings because of correlated parlays", or "were taking it because we are God and you have no say".

[Bill Dozer]

It's debatable whether one book should be able to judge another's transaction. In some cases the player is an obvious scammer who doesn't honor losses after deposits. In others, it's a matter of Sportsbook.com taking four months to pay and the deposit being a similar amount to the current balance and the player needs to make a move.

Regardless of what happened before, if they are taking valid bets and allowing him to lose money but keeping winnings, that is theft. If the Ultimatebet account is open, not much more is relevant to BetUS.

Justin is going to discuss the dispute with BetUS. Maybe they have something to add on why they won't pay now.

[Justin7]

I have spoken with the player. I have attempted to contact BetUS, but the decision maker is out of the country. I always want to get both sides of the story before reporting anything, so please give me a few days.

[beetman]

UltimateBet are crooks too--they are affiliated with Absolute Poker.

[Francis Sollozzo]

The Shrink said today they are very close in getting the player paid in full , we'll see

[Bill Dozer]

Iv'e seen some vague negative comments about the player but nothing relevant to not sending the funds. I'm sure the player is fine with it playing out this way if it leads to cash in hand.