Iran is on a highway to its own destruction

[curious]

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The title of this chart is disingenuous. The Jews are Palestinians. I guess the point this chart is really making is "Loss of land by Muslims". So, why don't they just say that? But they can't say that because not all Palestinians are Muslim. And Jews are Palestinians if they are from the area formerly known as the British mandate of Palestine. Which includes modern day Israel.

So, I'm not sure what the point of this chart is.

[ShamsWoof10]

Sorry sir, Ive been a warmonger since joining the military in 1976. Ive always been of the belief that we should have leveled Iran when Hezbollah did the job on the Marines in Lebanon.

Pretty good thread here, lots of opinions, but my family has had members serve this country in every major war the US has been involved in, starting with the Civil war through the current Iraq war, and some less known private wars in between. I will never change my beliefs, right or wrong.

later

We won't even get into the Mossad's role in that incident and although nobody cares...the French had their barricks blown up too...

Anyway your family members legacy of "serving this country" as you put it will end with your son... WHEN the North American Union is established there will be no giggerish talk such as this...

The other amazing thing that is taking place is while the average zombie is busy worrying about terrorism as a threat to their "country" they don't realize they are losing it little by little... My friend lives in Miami and asked "Bank of AMERICA" to send him a copy of his credit report... They sent it to him IN SPANISH!!! He handles customer service at his job and a man came in only able to speak SPANISH and was angered by the fact that my friend only knew ENGLISH...

As you guys can imagine I just LOOOOOVE hearing stories like this...

[durito]

Si viviera en Miami tuviera que hablar espanol.

[Kerfuffle]

Pavyracer if Palestinians had accepted partition plan (which U.N voted for in 1947 - even U.S.S.R. accepted!) they would still have territory on map 2nd from left.

Palestians are like gamblers who lost at a casino and want there money back. Except instead of money they lost land.

Moral of story: .Don't start wars, don't lose land.

[Dark Horse]

Curious, try critical thinking. It works across the board.

Unless you trust a sportsbook just because it has enough money to advertise on the radio.

[curious]

Curious, try critical thinking. It works across the board.

Unless you trust a sportsbook just because it has enough money to advertise on the radio.

Some things never change. NEVER in any of the insults you have made to me did you ever try to dispute a point I actually made. You alway resort to insults. Phucking loser.

[remmy358]

Maybe you can call in an airstrike

or a helicopter if you can get 7 kills in a row

[pavyracer]

The Jewish kingdom ceased to exist right after King Solomon and King David demise as stated in the Bible. That was some 600 to 800 years before Christ's berth. They have been conquered in order by Babylonians, Assyrians, Persians, Macedonians and Romans. At around 70 AD they revolted against the Romans and lost badly at which time the Romans desolved any dreams Jews had for a state. The Byzantines which were Christians succeeded the Romans till the emergence of Muslims (Saracenes, Seltzuks, Mamaluks etc) in 7th century AD. At 11th to 13th century AD they were briefly occupied by the Crusaders which were Christians but there were no siginificant number of Jews in what we call now Israel.

Israel was a creation of Britain and the United States in 1948 and Jews have no right to claim a homeland a land that they lost more than 2500 years ago to various foreign conquerors.

The Greeks, Bulgarians, Romanians, Serbs, Algerians etc maintained their identities, culture and religions under Ottoman occupation and when they revolted against their conquerors were able to become independent countries, like our USA did to the Britons some 250 years ago. The Jews were awarded a country in 1948 without having to fight for freedom at the expense of the indegenous inhabitants of Palestine for the last 1300 hundred years or so.

[donjuan]

Israel was a creation of Britain and the United States in 1948 and Jews have no right to claim a homeland a land that they lost more than 2500 years ago to various foreign conquerors.

The Greeks, Bulgarians, Romanians, Serbs, Algerians etc maintained their identities, culture and religions under Ottoman occupation and when they revolted against their conquerors were able to become independent countries, like our USA did to the Britons some 250 years ago. The Jews were awarded a country in 1948 without having to fight for freedom at the expense of the indegenous inhabitants of Palestine for the last 1300 hundred years or so.

So they should have just continued getting gassed/pogrom-ed/murdered for another 1000+ years?

[pavyracer]

So they should have just continued getting gassed/pogrom-ed/murdered for another 1000+ years?

Noone gassed anyone after May 1945 when the Germans surrendered. There was plenty of real estate in US, Canada, Siberia etc for them to create a state without creating havoc in the Middle East by their presence as settlers in a foreign land they did not own but were given at the expense of indegenous inhabitants. I am pretty sure if the US gave them a quarter of North Dakota to settle and create Israel they wouldn't complain. We invited millions of immigrants from Europe for a mule and 40 acres a long time ago and everyone is living happily in peace now in the US. The same offer should have been given to Jews in 1948 with 40 acres and a tractor instead of the mule.

[donjuan]

Noone gassed anyone after May 1945 when the Germans surrendered. There was plenty of real estate in US, Canada, Siberia etc for them to create a state without creating havoc in the Middle East by their presence as settlers in a foreign land they did not own but were given at the expense of indegenous inhabitants.

Indeed, a massive 3 year period of not being gassed. I guess after 1000+ years of persecution, they should have based their futures on a 3 year period. Many had already moved to what is now Israel, as well.

[donjuan]

Also, what 40 acres and a mule are you talking about? I have only ever heard of that when referring to the compensation for slavery with regards to black Americans.

[OLGC_Slayer]

You
buddybare
Thor
OGLC slayer
Maybe dorito

Only Arabs/moslems would write the stuff you guys are writing.

Jackass. I am German and Scots. You are brainwashed.

Are you Jewish?

[Thor4140]

Jackass. I am German and Scots. You are brainwashed.

Are you Jewish?

Maybe he is just gullible OLGC

[curious]

If you idiots are going to keep name calling and insulting and refuse to actually discuss the facts that I posted, please get the phuck out of my thread.

I made a very clear statement which I summarize here:
"Iran is taking actions which Israel is viewing as a threat to Israel's survival. Israel is making plans for a war with Syria and Iran. Two key events which lead to this conclusion were the recent naming of one of their best generals as head of the "Iran front", and the creation of a new combined arms army which is being trained in asymmetric warfare. If Iran succeeds in completing an offensive missile base stocked with missiles with a 2500 radius and continues pursuing nuclear weapons, Israel will attack them first with the goal of destroying Syria and Iran's war making capability".

Now, if you want to discuss these statements without calling people names and insulting them, we would be happy to hear your thoughts.

Otherwise, GET THE PHUCK OUT OF MY THREAD.

[durito]

If you idiots are going to keep name calling and insulting and refuse to actually discuss the facts that I posted, please get the phuck out of my thread.

now that's some irony

[Thor4140]

If you idiots are going to keep name calling and insulting and refuse to actually discuss the facts that I posted, please get the phuck out of my thread.

I made a very clear statement which I summarize here:
"Iran is taking actions which Israel is viewing as a threat to Israel's survival. Israel is making plans for a war with Syria and Iran. Two key events which lead to this conclusion were the recent naming of one of their best generals as head of the "Iran front", and the creation of a new combined arms army which is being trained in asymmetric warfare. If Iran succeeds in completing an offensive missile base stocked with missiles with a 2500 radius and continues pursuing nuclear weapons, Israel will attack them first with the goal of destroying Syria and Iran's war making capability".

Now, if you want to discuss these statements without calling people names and insulting them, we would be happy to hear your thoughts.

Otherwise, GET THE PHUCK OUT OF MY THREAD.

The same people who lied about every single thing about this farce of a war profiteering war, are the same scumbags who are beating this Iran drum. wake up.

[Kerfuffle]

Jackass. I am German and Scots. You are brainwashed.

Are you Jewish?

Hey OGLC Slayer you gonna attend any of Israel's 60th year independence celebrations next month? I think they have a special viewing section for modern day, some call them, neo-nazis. You can invite some of the dipsh*ts posting here as well. Israel welcomes itsarms to all denominations. Plenty of Israeli Arabs living in Israel in peace, with full citizenship, health care and parliamentry representation.

Come toIsrael! It's a wonderful place (so they tell me)

[Kerfuffle]

Guys would you come to Israels 60 year since independence celbrations next month?

Please please please please with sugar on top?

Pavyracer, buddybare, OGLC, Thor Scorpion, ARabs/Moslems of SBR. PLEASE.

Israel is trying to get this guy to be guest speaker. He's a bold and wonderful man, he likes scuba diving, stamp collecting, and gourmet foods. His role models are Gengis Khan, Haman, and Hitler. He's attractive, in an Arab way, a bit shy with the ladies....come see him if he comes. Our main man





60 years guys. 60 glorious years. Come. Enjoy.

[Dark Horse]

Some things never change. NEVER in any of the insults you have made to me did you ever try to dispute a point I actually made. You alway resort to insults. Phucking loser.

The 'program' you're tuned in to, and are repeating verbatim, was a paid advertisement.

That is the whole point you're making.

[Kerfuffle]

Come on guys, R.S.V.P. for the 60th anniversary ceremonies now.

Come see what you can do with what was once swamp land and desert if you can just remove most of the backwards people. Just like the Americans and Indians (Native Americans)!

[curious]

The same people who lied about every single thing about this farce of a war profiteering war, are the same scumbags who are beating this Iran drum. wake up.

The Israelis obviously do not agree with you.

[curious]

Come on guys, R.S.V.P. for the 60th anniversary ceremonies now.

Come see what you can do with what was once swamp land and desert if you can just remove most of the backwards people. Just like the Americans and Indians (Native Americans)!

Amazing what hard work can do. The inhabitants of the nation of Israel took a third world backwater and turned it into a prosperous modern country where its citizens of all religions have equal rights.

Contrast that with what the inhabitants of the areas around them have done with the same opportunity, given that they all got independence around the same time. By any metric you wan to use there is no comparison.
Literacy rates
Economics
Health care
Freedom
Equality before the law for all religions
Multiculturalism

Look at any of those metrics for Syria, Gaza, the West Bank, Egypt, Jordan, and Lebanon, and compare them to Israel.

Surprising what a little hard work and capitalism can do.

All of these Muslim societies are total failures. Lebanon used to be called the flower of the Mideast, until the Muslims destroyed the place with their constant fighting anyone that is not just like them.

Let's see, they gained independence around the same time, occupy the same geographic area, were given the same opportunity, Israel became a prosperous country, the Muslim countries became hell holes ruled by thugs. I wonder if Islam had anything to do with that?

Before the idiots start complaining that Israel gets help that the others don't/didn't, the Soviet Union poured billions of dollars into Egypt and Syria. The U.N. has poured billions into the West Bank, Gaza, and Lebanon. The US gives aid to Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Gaza, and the West Bank.

Funny that the rich Muslim countries nearby don't do anything to help their "brothers".

[DAWGPEN]

Why would anyone defend Iran? If they had the ability they would destroy every non Muslim in the world. But we should not back Israel, the only real ally the western world has in the middle east. That makes a lot of sense. It's just antisemitism that compels these fools to make such ridiculous statements.

[Dark Horse]

I thought cloning was illegal. Maybe not.

Iran has perhaps the most beautiful women in the world. Stunning. And a very old culture.

Israel is playing its usual propaganda game. How is Iran threatening them? Israel has the nukes. As usual they want the US to do the dirty work for them, and change the Middle East into US puppet states, which can then be integrated into the great Zionist Empire.

Iran is not the one stealing land. Israel is doing that every chance they get. Who is the aggressor?

As long as one-dimensional minds are buying it, and as long as money buys US politics, the propaganda will work. I do agree that one Middle East country is on a collision course with its own destruction. But Iran it is not.

[DAWGPEN]

I thought cloning was illegal. Maybe not.

Iran has perhaps the most beautiful women in the world. Stunning. And a very old culture.

Israel is playing its usual propaganda game. How is Iran threatening them? Israel has the nukes. As usual they want the US to do the dirty work for them, and change the Middle East into US puppet states, which can then be integrated into the great Zionist Empire.

How is Iran threatening them? Your joking right? After 9/11 I would think that antisemetics like yourself would understand what Israel has been saying for years.

[Kerfuffle]

I thought cloning was illegal. Maybe not.

Iran has perhaps the most beautiful women in the world. Stunning. And a very old culture.

Israel is playing its usual propaganda game. How is Iran threatening them? Israel has the nukes. As usual they want the US to do the dirty work for them, and change the Middle East into US puppet states, which can then be integrated into the great Zionist Empire.

Iran is not the one stealing land. Israel is doing that every chance they get. Who is the aggressor?

As long as one-dimensional minds are buying it, and as long as money buys US politics, the propaganda will work. I do agree that one Middle East country is on a collision course with its own destruction. But Iran it is not.

Palestinians gambled in 1948, went to war after the U.N voted for partition, and lost.

Just like a loser gambler who goes into a casino and loses, now they cry for their land back.

Too fukkin bad for them.

[curious]

Why would anyone defend Iran? If they had the ability they would destroy every non Muslim in the world. But we should not back Israel, the only real ally the western world has in the middle east. That makes a lot of sense. It's just antisemitism that compels these fools to make such ridiculous statements.

These idiots always defend the terrorists and their allies. The only way I can figure it, it is a kind of reverse bigotry. "Oh, you can't say anything bad about the poor Muslims, they wouldn't do anything wrong".

We see this idiocy all the time. One standard for whites, a totally different standard for all the "Victim" groups. The leftwing nutjobs have decided that Muslims are one of their "victim" groups that need their protection. Phucking idiots. The victim groups can never be held accountable for anything they do.

The same day that the leftwing nutjobs went into total hysterics because a guard had stomped on a Koran, because it offends the "Muslims", there was a story where female teachers in a school for small children were beheaded in front of their students by these same people who are so sensitive that a Koran being stepped on "hurts" them. The second story received ZERO coverage.

[ShamsWoof10]

Palestinians gambled in 1948, went to war after the U.N voted for partition, and lost.

Just like a loser gambler who goes into a casino and loses, now they cry for their land back.

Too fukkin bad for them.

The view of the world from an Isreali Jew...

These idiots always defend the terrorists and their allies. The only way I can figure it, it is a kind of reverse bigotry. "Oh, you can't say anything bad about the poor Muslims, they wouldn't do anything wrong".

We see this idiocy all the time. One standard for whites, a totally different standard for all the "Victim" groups. The leftwing nutjobs have decided that Muslims are one of their "victim" groups that need their protection. Phucking idiots. The victim groups can never be held accountable for anything they do.

The same day that the leftwing nutjobs went into total hysterics because a guard had stomped on a Koran, because it offends the "Muslims", there was a story where female teachers in a school for small children were beheaded in front of their students by these same people who are so sensitive that a Koran being stepped on "hurts" them. The second story received ZERO coverage.

Let me ask you something "Curious" and it would be nice for you to answer this... The information about Iran that you are claiming is FACT came from where..? and was it the same source that gave you the same information about IRAQ... TWICE>>??? If so how can you say ...A..these are facts and B..they are believeable..?

What makes you think these are facts ...this should be answered FIRST and then we can debate them....

[DAWGPEN]

The view of the world from an Isreali Jew...



Let me ask you something "Curious" and it would be nice for you to answer this... The information about Iran that you are claiming is FACT came from where..? and was it the same source that gave you the same information about IRAQ... TWICE>>??? If so how can you say ...A..these are facts and B..they are believeable..?

What makes you think these are facts ...this should be answered FIRST and then we can debate them....

You are just a blinded antisemitic idiot. What do you think will happen if and when they obtain nuclear weapons? Don't you think that they will use them? And what about if they decide they are going to hand deliver a suitcase nuke to the US? They have proven time and time again their extreme radicalism. These are the people you are protecting? And to the plight of the Palestinian people, if the ultra wealthy Islamic nations were so concerned, why didn't they give them their own little piece of property to create a nation for them. If Israel was a Christian nation would this discussion even exist? Some people won't see the light until it smacks them in the face.

[curious]

The view of the world from an Isreali Jew...



Let me ask you something "Curious" and it would be nice for you to answer this... The information about Iran that you are claiming is FACT came from where..? and was it the same source that gave you the same information about IRAQ... TWICE>>??? If so how can you say ...A..these are facts and B..they are believeable..?

What makes you think these are facts ...this should be answered FIRST and then we can debate them....

So, you are saying that the terrorists did NOT behead five female teachers in front of their students for supposed violations of Sharia law?

You are saying that Israel did not name one of their top generals to command a new "Iran front"?

You are saying that Israel did not recently announce the creation of a new combined arms army which will be specially trained in asymmetric warfare?

You are saying that Israel does not view Syria and Iran as its enemies after the proxy war they just fought via Hezbollah against Israel?

You are saying that Iran did not recently make an agreement to purchase offensive missiles with a range of 2500 miles from China?

You are saying that Iran is not currently building an offensive missile base in which to house said missiles?

You are saying that Iran is not pushing a nuclear weapons capability program?

Is this what you are saying?

[curious]

You are just a blinded antisemitic idiot. What do you think will happen if and when they obtain nuclear weapons? Don't you think that they will use them? And what about if they decide they are going to hand deliver a suitcase nuke to the US? They have proven time and time again their extreme radicalism. These are the people you are protecting? And to the plight of the Palestinian people, if the ultra wealthy Islamic nations were so concerned, why didn't they give them their own little piece of property to create a nation for them. If Israel was a Christian nation would this discussion even exist? Some people won't see the light until it smacks them in the face.

The U.N. did give them a piece of land. It was called Palestine. The king of Jordan joined in the '48 war of aggression against Israel for the stated purpose of annexing the west bank, land promised to the Palestinians under the two state plan for the independence of the British mandate of Palestine. Syria grabbed land north of the piece Jordan stole, the Egyptians grabbed land bordering on the Sinai and Gaza.

The Muslim countries have proven time and again that they don't give a flying phuck about the Palestinians. Yet, they use the "plight" of the Palestinians as an excuse for their insane policies.

The most damming part of this is that the DemoCong and the media fall for these lies.

[ShamsWoof10]

You are just a blinded antisemitic idiot.

...and you have the nerve to call someone an idiot... Hey you brainless f*ck how about knowing what semite means first before you go throwing the word ANTI-SEMITIC...

A member of a group of Semitic-speaking peoples of the Near East and northern Africa, including the Arabs, Arameans, Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Hebrews, and Phoenicians.

They have proven time and time again their extreme radicalism..

Time and time again..? Give me 10 examples and since this happens time and time again giving me 10 examples for Iran's extreme radicalism should be easy...

Is there anything you people don't repeat from the media ???

I bet you think Jihad means "Holly War" too because the media told you so and IT'S FACT ......right..?

[Kerfuffle]

The view of the world from an Isreali Jew...

LOL no if I was an Israeli jew I would have continued like this....

Then in 1967, after Egypt's leader Nasser told the Arab world he would drive the jews into the sea, Israelis believing a war of annhialation was at hand, attacked.

After the second day of the war, with his air force annihalated and his ground troops retreating and surrendering, Nasser, much like Baghdad Bob many years later, decreed that his army was at the gates of Tel Aviv. The Arab world rejoiced

So King Hussein of Jordan, believing his Arab brother, wanted some of the spoils of war and decided to jump in. Israel warned him to stay out (they kind of liked him, he was less of a fool), the Egyptian view wasn't true. He went forward anyway and lost the West Bank and East Jerusalem.

The Arabs gambled again, lost again, cried again, like the pathetic gambler that lost at the casino. What a fukking bunch of pathetic crybabies.

Arabs lose. Again. Lost much much more territory, because Nasser was doing his Baghdad Bob routine.


Too fukkin bad, Palestinians.

[ShamsWoof10]

Is this what you are saying?

I made it perfectly CLEAR what I was asking... Why the f*ck do you answer questions with other questions...? All you did was re list was you are told is fact...

You are saying that Iran is not currently building an offensive missile base in which to house said missiles?

You are saying that Iran is not pushing a nuclear weapons capability program?

Is this what you are saying?

I don't know if they are AND YOU DON'T EITHER and don't act like you know...

It goes back to my orginal question...

WHO TOLD YOU ALL THESE SO CALLED "FACTS".. and don't answer it with five other questions... This is why I insult so if you want to "discuss" it then answer the f*ckin' question with an answer...

Here it is again...

Let me ask you something "Curious" and it would be nice for you to answer this... The information about Iran that you are claiming is FACT came from where..? and was it the same source that gave you the same information about IRAQ... TWICE>>??? If so how can you say ...A..these are facts and B..they are believeable..?

What makes you think these are facts ...this should be answered FIRST and then we can debate them....