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  • Thremp
    SBR MVP
    • 07-23-07
    • 2067

    #106
    Originally posted by Hareeba!
    pardon?
    Check your Totem: A reference from the [Christopher Nolan] movie [Inception] that suggests that a person should examine their totem (small personal object) in...


    Your math is wrong... again. Stop using rounded decimal odds which are exceedingly inexact.
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    • Hareeba!
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 07-01-06
      • 37355

      #107
      Originally posted by Thremp
      http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...20your%20Totem

      Your math is wrong... again. Stop using rounded decimal odds which are exceedingly inexact.
      sorry teacher but would you mind showing me exactly where I went wrong?
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      • Thremp
        SBR MVP
        • 07-23-07
        • 2067

        #108
        You miscalculated the price on the fave drawing the errant conclusion it was better. I don't know how you did this. Weird. Either way, its completely ****** since you fukked the 4th grade math part and then all the subsequent stuff is nonsense.
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        • Hareeba!
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 07-01-06
          • 37355

          #109
          Originally posted by Thremp
          You miscalculated the price on the fave drawing the errant conclusion it was better. I don't know how you did this. Weird. Either way, its completely ****** since you fukked the 4th grade math part and then all the subsequent stuff is nonsense.
          oh dear did 1?

          so if I lay Ferrer at 8.6 and am paying 5% comm. what is the effective price I'm getting for Nadal?

          (sorry but I must have skipped that class in 4th grade)
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          • Hareeba!
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 07-01-06
            • 37355

            #110
            Originally posted by Hareeba!
            oh dear did 1?

            so if I lay Ferrer at 8.6 and am paying 5% comm. what is the effective price I'm getting for Nadal?
            it seems that may be proving a little tricky for the teacher?

            anyone else able to help out please?

            my answer is 1.125 (-800)
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            • Thremp
              SBR MVP
              • 07-23-07
              • 2067

              #111
              Check your totem.
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              • FourLengthsClear
                SBR MVP
                • 12-29-10
                • 3808

                #112
                Originally posted by Hareeba!
                it seems that may be proving a little tricky for the teacher?

                anyone else able to help out please?

                my answer is 1.125 (-800)
                Correct.
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                • Hareeba!
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 07-01-06
                  • 37355

                  #113
                  Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
                  Correct.
                  thanks 4LC, so perhaps my grade 4 maths isn't as bad as teacher says

                  unfortunate that he prefers to play with his totem rather than being inclined to point out where he thinks I'm wrong so I will proceed in the belief that I did get it right which makes my conclusion correct, i.e. that one could have backed both players at better odds than were available at Pinnacle

                  now it would be good to get him to answer this question of yours which he conveniently side-stepped:

                  On the subject to statements that are wrong. You stated
                  quote
                  That is not debatable as its impossible for it to have the best price on anymore than one side in >100.4 overround markets compared to Pinny and its entirely possible that it will never have the best price due to being a higher overround market.
                  unquote

                  Do you still believe that?
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                  • Legions36
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-17-10
                    • 3032

                    #114
                    Originally posted by TheDon72
                    Is Live Betting a big trap for bettors. Does the sports book have that much of an edge over you? I will say one thing its very addictive!
                    OP fu-ck the book, fu-ck live betting, and fu-ck gambling, as no book has an edge from my sh-it cause i dont let them and don't fall to the traps of there tricks. Only time i use live betting is to get out of a bad bet, most of the time they sqeeze there juice on live. As i have the edge not them remember you gotta catch them constantly with there pants down.
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                    • batigol
                      Restricted User
                      • 12-29-10
                      • 171

                      #115
                      Does anyone know where can you see real-time odds for livebetting ? When the game is in progress I mean ! Is there some sites that have this , but for free and with no delay. I know only oddsportal but they do not have all bookies that I use. Thanks !
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                      • horja1
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-13-11
                        • 5646

                        #116
                        yeah ... betfair rules
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                        • horsiehung
                          Restricted User
                          • 10-31-10
                          • 258

                          #117
                          live betting is very addictive, but i am still looking for a site other than bodog that does it play by play.
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                          • thadchr
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-18-08
                            • 1335

                            #118
                            Thread Restart?

                            I'm very reluctant to bring this thread back up since after about a half page in it turned into a long, exhaustive argument about the slight mathematical differences between odds at Pinnacle and BetFair, but I didn't want to start a new thread when one of the same topic has inevitably been started at least once before. As for the Pinny/BetFair argument, regardless of which side is correct, as it stands the vast majority of us can't play at either book anyway. Obviously that doesn't disclude these from discussion, but I do think it makes them less relevant and less helpful to most of the forum.

                            So, assuming we can put that behind us I'd like to get back to the initial point(s) of the thread: What U.S. sites offer decent live wagering? Which have the most options (as in types of bets), most available games to live-wager on (i.e. games that aren't huge marquee events like the Super Bowl, etc.), best odds, etc.? Does BoDog still have their live-bet flash software, and if they do, is it even worthwhile? (I've heard nothing but bad things about BoDog lately.) And of course, live wagering strategy and the like would be helpful as well for anyone actually interested. (Or maybe that would be better suited for the 'Think Tank'?

                            Note: I only made this post bold--which I do consider sort of obnoxious--to mark the "cut-off" between where the Pinny/BetFair argument hopefully ended. Sorry for the questionable etiquette.
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                            • FourLengthsClear
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-29-10
                              • 3808

                              #119
                              Aside from Matchbook, I have found that Intertops is one of the best US friendly sites for live bets.
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                              • thadchr
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-18-08
                                • 1335

                                #120
                                FLC, despite having been capping for like 6 years, I've never gotten around to using Matchbook! I've heard almost exclusively good things, but have just always had plenty of books where I didn't feel I needed to go out of my way to use another. But how exactly does it work (the "exchange" concept and whatnot)? Also, what is the format for their live betting? Thanks!
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                                • Hareeba!
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 07-01-06
                                  • 37355

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by thadchr
                                  FLC, despite having been capping for like 6 years, I've never gotten around to using Matchbook! I've heard almost exclusively good things, but have just always had plenty of books where I didn't feel I needed to go out of my way to use another. But how exactly does it work (the "exchange" concept and whatnot)? Also, what is the format for their live betting? Thanks!
                                  betting exchanges are simply sites where players can bet on offers put up by other players or put up their own offers for others to accept - just like a stock exchange

                                  the operator takes a relatively small cut by means of a commission charge

                                  bottom line is that most players end up paying a good deal less in commission on their betting and make more / lose less (or lose it more slowly) than they would pay in vig. playing at a bookmaker.
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                                  • thadchr
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 11-18-08
                                    • 1335

                                    #122
                                    So Matchbook is entirely worthwhile...even if I already play at 4-5 others. ... Do they offer solid first-time deposit bonuses? I'm a bit broke right now.
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                                    • Hareeba!
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 07-01-06
                                      • 37355

                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by thadchr
                                      So Matchbook is entirely worthwhile...even if I already play at 4-5 others. ... Do they offer solid first-time deposit bonuses? I'm a bit broke right now.
                                      they offer a permanent bonus of the very best kind - lowest juice - they don't need to offer all the gimmicky deceptively good stuff that ordinary books do

                                      if you are serious about your betting they are a must have but if you are broke you shouldn't even be contemplating betting
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                                      • todd73nj
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 08-09-08
                                        • 824

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by batigol
                                        Does anyone know where can you see real-time odds for livebetting ? When the game is in progress I mean ! Is there some sites that have this , but for free and with no delay. I know only oddsportal but they do not have all bookies that I use. Thanks !

                                        Use Betfair and an odds converter if you dont know decimal. Even though it gives you an IP warning, it will still allow you to view the market as they move
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                                        • pennsylvania209
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 12-02-09
                                          • 333

                                          #125
                                          Live betting is another way to lose more money.
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                                          • Hareeba!
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 07-01-06
                                            • 37355

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by pennsylvania209
                                            Live betting is another way to lose more money.

                                            or, if you know what you're on about, to win even more

                                            actually probably easier to make money betting live
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                                            • horja1
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 01-13-11
                                              • 5646

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by pennsylvania209
                                              Live betting is another way to lose more money.
                                              if you can control yourself ... no way

                                              you can win loads of money
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                                              • horsiehung
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 10-31-10
                                                • 258

                                                #128
                                                can anyone please tell me if Betfair is good for US players?
                                                Also, are they the same as matchbook?
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                                                • Hareeba!
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 07-01-06
                                                  • 37355

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by horsiehung
                                                  can anyone please tell me if Betfair is good for US players?
                                                  Also, are they the same as matchbook?
                                                  no they're not the same as MB ... they are streets ahead (other than for US sports) but yes they are both exchanges

                                                  unfortunately Uncle Sam won't allow his citizens (or for that matter, anyone present in the country) to use Betfair
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                                                  • Hareeba!
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 07-01-06
                                                    • 37355

                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by Thremp
                                                    Pinny does deal -104 on Tennis. Check your math.
                                                    that was a GS

                                                    now that we're back to the regular grind show me where Pinnacle is dealing tennis at -104 today

                                                    looking more like -108 to me
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                                                    • csatarid
                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                      • 01-27-11
                                                      • 96

                                                      #131
                                                      I love li betting, im in Augsburg gogo! BET365 is the BEST!!

                                                      If somebody wants to join I call it and we receive a bonus!
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                                                      • batigol
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 12-29-10
                                                        • 171

                                                        #132
                                                        Bet 3.65 is good for livebetting but limits,limits,limits.......
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                                                        • kylehen_son
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 09-08-06
                                                          • 354

                                                          #133
                                                          just moved to 5dimes, loving the live betting
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