I like Sarah McLachlan

[5 star bomb]

Happened to me, too. 9 months of tears - then - boom! I realized it would have been wrong for that relationship to work out, and I lamented having wasted so much time. But you have to go through it to know better.

Do you ever talk to that guy or see him? I saw my ex for the first time in like 2 years a couple weeks ago at a bar where we both grew up. And she was up there with her whole family so it was super awkward. Her dad loved me and I was talking to him for a bit and what not. I talked to her for a little bit but not too long because I was with a girl I kinda like so I didnt want to piss her off.

[mofome]

yeah I know exactly what your saying. for me the toughest part is that I just dont know and when you analyze things...wow that is really tough and hard on you emotionally and mentally. I mean not even the respect to talk to me once or something? I mean I give myself, and do EVERYTHING for her and her family, and even my family does so much and this is what I get.

really crazy how so many people are out their in the world so sick and just dont give a shitt about anything. so sad to think about.

what really gets me, is dont regret anything, but you just have all the memories, and recently just thinking all the times I should have seen writing on the wall, but you just are like, wow that was 5 years of my life. I mean geez 21 and almost 5 years talk about prime time to be doing things with your life and thing is so much was going on but then when it fails, and not my choice, but your like, wow. what a waste. and yeah its an experience and I learned from it, but damn would have liked to learn the same thing in 3 months and not have all that failure after 5 years.

its true what family and friends say - at least you didnt have a kid from it haha

you've learned more about yourself from this than you could possibly imagine. you'll recognize things in yourself, and your next partner, more readily in the future. the one thing i hope you don't do is allow it to effect you negatively. be yourself, just be who you are. if you get hurt again, you get hurt again. That will be awful, but i guarantee that whenever that is, i'll have a cell phone you can call and we'll deal with it. give yourself the chance to have everything you want and then see where the cards fall. don't play games and dont be gay about it, but respect people in the manner you do and things will fall into place. i have a tremendous amount of respect for you already. its not likely that we'll date, but i will offer any amount of time that you may require.

[Sportsgirl]

Do you ever talk to that guy or see him? I saw my ex for the first time in like 2 years a couple weeks ago at a bar where we both grew up. And she was up there with her whole family so it was super awkward. Her dad loved me and I was talking to him for a bit and what not. I talked to her for a little bit but not too long because I was with a girl I kinda like so I didnt want to piss her off.

Yes, I've seen him. I think the uncomfortableness is more habit than feelings. i know it wasn't right, and it wouldn't have worked out, but it was three years of my life. You get to know a person and when you see them, that sorta of secret "knowing" creeps in.

[Robyn]

Hey Nanc, did I ever show you the Mike Utley page I created?

http://myspace.com/mikeutleyy

It's hilarious...I get all kinds of emails and friend requests from people on that page who think that it is the real Mike Utley. Now tell me, after looking at the page, is there any way that people should think that page is real???

[MoneySportsGuy]

oh man that is awkward 5 star.
whats really crazy about my stuff, is I actually just randomly called my ex and asked her stuff, well she asked me and I did alot of answering and it was weird because her as well just things just ended and I never knew and then 4 years later you hear all this and that and its like what on earth. makes no sense haha

[Sportsgirl]

Hey Nanc, did I ever show you the Mike Utley page I created?

http://myspace.com/mikeutleyy

It's hilarious...I get all kinds of emails and friend requests from people on that page who think that it is the real Mike Utley. Now tell me, after looking at the page, is there any way that people should think that page is real???

Looks very real to me



Ok, I admit it, the "thumbs up" was evil.

[Robyn]

Well....that's his motto!

And yes, I am evil.

[mofome]

man I really appreciate it and what your saying. truely touches my heart and its a good feeling to know others are there. I am just so glad have such a strong supportive family and friends as could not have done it without them.

your right about allowing yourself to see other experiences ideas etc, because you do leearn so much. and its defintely worth it in my opinion as well, because so much has been gained that I could have ever imagined. I am just glad to always be there as well for people, its funny I know some people couldnt stand it, but, I think your like me in this, to me it means the world when somebody is open and honest and lays their heart out like that. I think one reason is simply because I do it myself and yeah it hurts at times but I'll never change, just have to be more cautious possibly in future about somethings. but being there for somebody, just to listen or talk to and share experiences and ideas and your heart, its a beautiful thing indeed.

we'll definitely get in touch about it and it will be some good times learning and laughing

you have great friends because you're a great person. simple as that.

as you assumed, i love for people to be open. everyone likes to be around when the times are good, i'll always be there for anyone when the times are not. i can not stand to see someone down or even know that someone is sad. it eats me up.

[mofome]

I heart you more.

I better shut my mouth before big seer comes in and starts whoopin ass.

[MoneySportsGuy]

you've learned more about yourself from this than you could possibly imagine. you'll recognize things in yourself, and your next partner, more readily in the future. the one thing i hope you don't do is allow it to effect you negatively. be yourself, just be who you are. if you get hurt again, you get hurt again. That will be awful, but i guarantee that whenever that is, i'll have a cell phone you can call and we'll deal with it. give yourself the chance to have everything you want and then see where the cards fall. don't play games and dont be gay about it, but respect people in the manner you do and things will fall into place. i have a tremendous amount of respect for you already. its not likely that we'll date, but i will offer any amount of time that you may require.

man your right on its crazy to see somethings you write as its like seriously thinking same thing. and its true about being yourself, that is one thing that I was questioning when everything happend but I am true to myself and certainly not going to let this change me for who I am. everything happens for a reason, and even though so much is hard and weird and you never can figure it out, thats ok because life goes on and one day when I am married with a beautiful wife, have bunch of kids running around, nice house(s), stable family and relationships, it will all be worth it. I mean heck its already worth it now I am so happy not dealing with what I had to when was with her.

appreciate the kind words, I have definte respect about you as well and any amount of time you or I may require is good with me as I am going to be here same as well for you.

I mean, honestly....

your my brother from another mother. its what you do

[Robyn]

Every woman on this message board belongs to Seer's harem?

[mofome]

oh man that is awkward 5 star.
whats really crazy about my stuff, is I actually just randomly called my ex and asked her stuff, well she asked me and I did alot of answering and it was weird because her as well just things just ended and I never knew and then 4 years later you hear all this and that and its like what on earth. makes no sense haha

that doesn't sound good. hopefully you weren't cheated on. i don't know if i could handle that myself. never been there, cant imagine it.

[Sportsgirl]

I better shut my mouth before big seer comes in and starts whoopin ass.

chicken.

[mofome]

man your right on its crazy to see somethings you write as its like seriously thinking same thing. and its true about being yourself, that is one thing that I was questioning when everything happend but I am true to myself and certainly not going to let this change me for who I am. everything happens for a reason, and even though so much is hard and weird and you never can figure it out, thats ok because life goes on and one day when I am married with a beautiful wife, have bunch of kids running around, nice house(s), stable family and relationships, it will all be worth it. I mean heck its already worth it now I am so happy not dealing with what I had to when was with her.

appreciate the kind words, I have definte respect about you as well and any amount of time you or I may require is good with me as I am going to be here same as well for you.

I mean, honestly....

your my brother from another mother. its what you do

yeah i read your next reply and you had stated a couple of the things that i was writing.

you're def my good friend. i love it when people open up a bit, you learn a lot about the 'posters' you spend these days with.

[mofome]

chicken.

fine, i'll fight Seer for you.

[MoneySportsGuy]

you have great friends because you're a great person. simple as that.

as you assumed, i love for people to be open. everyone likes to be around when the times are good, i'll always be there for anyone when the times are not. i can not stand to see someone down or even know that someone is sad. it eats me up.

I feel the same way, its amazing how so many people can be cruel and you think they are honest about this or that, and when it gets tough boom they are gone. its true how you dont realize your true friends till the shtt starts hitting the fan.

it kills me as well when somebody is down or just negative or not getting their way or things constantly interupting their smile, and just glad I am the type of person I am, thanks to wonderful upbringing, that I can be that guy to be their when somebody needs that other person. it means the world to me and I cherish anytime I can talk to people about anything as you can always find the good in something, and sometimes just a little comment or simple comfort of listening can help another person in so many ways unimaginable.

[Sportsgirl]

fine, i'll fight Seer for you.

Excellent plan

[MoneySportsGuy]

that doesn't sound good. hopefully you weren't cheated on. i don't know if i could handle that myself. never been there, cant imagine it.

you know, still trying to figure that out really. but it honestly is too much to even think about, even how tough I am over stuff now. what really eats at my heart is the fact that if that is true...


how her mother could allow that to happen I mean just the two of them and its like wow your going to let your daughter do that? in addition to taking so much money I have given. that isnt even .0000000000001 of it, but whew when you give everything and get nothing, it hurts. especiially when you least expect from the woman that you love with your heart.

especially when you feel that woman was your soulmate

[Sportsgirl]

I feel the same way, its amazing how so many people can be cruel and you think they are honest about this or that, and when it gets tough boom they are gone. its true how you dont realize your true friends till the shtt starts hitting the fan.

it kills me as well when somebody is down or just negative or not getting their way or things constantly interupting their smile, and just glad I am the type of person I am, thanks to wonderful upbringing, that I can be that guy to be their when somebody needs that other person. it means the world to me and I cherish anytime I can talk to people about anything as you can always find the good in something, and sometimes just a little comment or simple comfort of listening can help another person in so many ways unimaginable.

you are a good, dear person, MSG. It happens that some people aren't, although, they sometimes appear to be. But, don't let that sour you on the future. Learn what you can from what has happened to you and move on. the person who took your 5 years shouldn't be taking any more of you time - especially when there is likely someone else out there better suited for it.

[mofome]

I feel the same way, its amazing how so many people can be cruel and you think they are honest about this or that, and when it gets tough boom they are gone. its true how you dont realize your true friends till the shtt starts hitting the fan.

it kills me as well when somebody is down or just negative or not getting their way or things constantly interupting their smile, and just glad I am the type of person I am, thanks to wonderful upbringing, that I can be that guy to be their when somebody needs that other person. it means the world to me and I cherish anytime I can talk to people about anything as you can always find the good in something, and sometimes just a little comment or simple comfort of listening can help another person in so many ways unimaginable.

Man, i cant even watch someone cry in a fucking movie. i'll have water in my eyes watching 'the holiday' or 'we are marshall'....in just get lost in peoples emotions. that doesn't mean i wont whoop cees ass though.

[mofome]

Excellent plan

does seer have to know about the plan?

[MoneySportsGuy]

yeah i read your next reply and you had stated a couple of the things that i was writing.

you're def my good friend. i love it when people open up a bit, you learn a lot about the 'posters' you spend these days with.

its crazy to think already how were talking about this on a sports forum, and actually how you can be so similiar to people from all over the world, nation for that matter.


definite awesome feeling though and glad met such an amazing person, true friend as yourself. looking forward to getting to know more about eachothers experiences and just learning from it and loving life.

that kinda sounds like an awkward man hug haha

[Sportsgirl]

does seer have to know about the plan?

If he can read, and I have a sneaking suspicion he can, then next time he logs in, he'll know.

[Sportsgirl]

Man, i cant even watch someone cry in a fucking movie. i'll have water in my eyes watching 'the holiday' or 'we are marshall'....in just get lost in peoples emotions. that doesn't mean i wont whoop cees ass though.

this recently moved into my top 5 all-time favorite movies. I loved it!

[MoneySportsGuy]

you are a good, dear person, MSG. It happens that some people aren't, although, they sometimes appear to be. But, don't let that sour you on the future. Learn what you can from what has happened to you and move on. the person who took your 5 years shouldn't be taking any more of you time - especially when there is likely someone else out there better suited for it.

thanks Sportsgirl, really appreciate it. and we'll have to be in contact as well, always love to hear a womans perspective on everything.

your right though I mean no sense in dwelling on it, as some other woman is the person for me. cant believe talked this much about it, but I guess at times it just naturally happens and that is ok, because reason it comes out at times

[Sportsgirl]

that kinda sounds like an awkward man hug haha

I've always had a soft spot for the man hug.

[mofome]

you know, still trying to figure that out really. but it honestly is too much to even think about, even how tough I am over stuff now. what really eats at my heart is the fact that if that is true...


how her mother could allow that to happen I mean just the two of them and its like wow your going to let your daughter do that? in addition to taking so much money I have given. that isnt even .0000000000001 of it, but whew when you give everything and get nothing, it hurts. especiially when you least expect from the woman that you love with your heart.

especially when you feel that woman was your soulmate

what you need to recognize is that not many people go into a relationship hoping to 'cheat' or treat you poorly, it happens because the one person just isn't ready. some people just aren't prepared for a good relationship, they aren't confident enough within themselves to even dream of being able to compliment someone elses happiness. thats another important thing, you should never try to 'make' someone else happy, you will only be truly successful if you are complimenting an already existing happiness. certainly i know nothing of this girl, but we can talk over more if you want my perspective on any of it.

[MoneySportsGuy]

wait a minute, is "the holiday" the movie recently about a family that all meets back up for Christmas?

I saw a movie with that I believe in December with my mom I was near tear or tears right their in the theater haha

[mofome]

If he can read, and I have a sneaking suspicion he can, then next time he logs in, he'll know.

seer reads these long threads? just my luck. i better make some edits.

[Sportsgirl]

thanks Sportsgirl, really appreciate it. and we'll have to be in contact as well, always love to hear a womans perspective on everything.

your right though I mean no sense in dwelling on it, as some other woman is the person for me. cant believe talked this much about it, but I guess at times it just naturally happens and that is ok, because reason it comes out at times

Anytime sweetie. I love giving the female perspective around here. I've been amember for almost two years and often feel like i'm peeking into the men's lockerroom. So, thanks for sharing - it always helps to talk about things. But remember not to dwell. There is someone else out in this world who is perfect for you - and she may well be perfect only because of what you learned from this past girl.

[mofome]

this recently moved into my top 5 all-time favorite movies. I loved it!

in my top 5 as well. i didn't think many people knew about it. ive watched it 7 or 8 times and i would watch it again if i had it. The part when Jude Law spells out "widower"...
oh dear

[MoneySportsGuy]

yeah your right on that, and that is the thing though that gets me. I mean I was the best that she ever had, not to brag but everything she had before, give it, wasnt alot, but it was enough that she had her jerks and heart torn up and you would think after finding something so good, you never want to leave it. and that is thing, I think in some ways, she wasnt ready, or maybe she was, but I think her mother had alot influence over things, and not blaming her as that is just small factor, but amazing how a mother can have such control over a daughter and wrapped on a finger her mid 20's daughter.

[Sportsgirl]

wait a minute, is "the holiday" the movie recently about a family that all meets back up for Christmas?

I saw a movie with that I believe in December with my mom I was near tear or tears right their in the theater haha

No. It's a great love story with Cameron Diaz, Jude Law, Kate Winslet and Jack Black - in a role I wouldn't have picked him for, but he was great.

[Sportsgirl]

in my top 5 as well. i didn't think many people knew about it. ive watched it 7 or 8 times and i would watch it again if i had it. The part when Jude Law spells out "widower"...
oh dear

I've watched it a bunch myself. I love the "movie trailers" of Cameron Diaz' life. hilarious. and Jack Black was great in a roll I wouldn't have pegged him for.

[Cee]

wait a minute, is "the holiday" the movie recently about a family that all meets back up for Christmas?

I saw a movie with that I believe in December with my mom I was near tear or tears right their in the theater haha

same here. That was one of my favorite movies