If you had a vote....Would you vote for CLEMENS to make the Hall of Fame?

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  • Willie Bee
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-14-06
    • 15726

    #36
    Originally posted by MadCapper
    i dont think the writers feel the same way we all do.
    You mean the same group of writers that included some that didn't think players like Ted Williams and Willie Mays belonged in the Hall of Fame?
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    • Robyn
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 02-05-08
      • 9681

      #37
      No. The end.
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      • BobHarvey
        SBR MVP
        • 07-08-08
        • 3987

        #38
        How can I say this?

        No.
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        • reno cool
          SBR MVP
          • 07-02-08
          • 3567

          #39
          Originally posted by Willie Bee
          I've long felt that journeyman outfielder Jim Dwyer had the best quote on all of this: "The Hall of Fame is for baseball people; heaven is for good people."

          If it was left up to just me, I'd acknowledge him as a Hall of Famer and hang a plaque like everyone else, but never hold an official induction ceremony for him, at least deny him the limelight that way while still recognizing him for his baseball talent.
          Willie is right. But Pete is such a low life. Ever since I saw that movie on him on HBO {I think), him coming out with a book, and hanging out at the Forum Shops peddling autographs(nobody in sight) I've lost all respect for him.

          Clemens yes. If you throw him out you might as well put an astericks on the last 20 years of baseball.
          bird bird da bird's da word
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          • yisman
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 09-01-08
            • 75682

            #40
            yes and I hate that crazy son of a bitch
            [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
            [/quote]

            [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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            • daggerkobe
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 03-25-08
              • 10744

              #41
              Only if the Hall of Fame adds a cheaters wing.
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              • McBa1n
                SBR MVP
                • 01-02-06
                • 2642

                #42
                There's information out there putting Clemens using Roids back in Toronto. Granted, he was likely a HOF pitcher at that point, he did something that screwed with the integrity of the game.

                I vote no.
                For Pete: No
                Mac: are you serious? haha no
                Bonds: Wow - not even close: NO
                Jim Rice: YES


                And no one supported Pete more than me - right up until he decided to charge to say "I bet on baseball" - and also, understanding that 'just betting on the Reds to win' is no excuse and if anything, is just as bad if not worse as fading your own team.
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                • Boner_18
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 08-24-08
                  • 8301

                  #43
                  Yes. Without hesitation.
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                  • reno cool
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-02-08
                    • 3567

                    #44
                    Originally posted by McBa1n
                    There's information out there putting Clemens using Roids back in Toronto. Granted, he was likely a HOF pitcher at that point, he did something that screwed with the integrity of the game.

                    I vote no.
                    For Pete: No
                    Mac: are you serious? haha no
                    Bonds: Wow - not even close: NO
                    Jim Rice: YES


                    And no one supported Pete more than me - right up until he decided to charge to say "I bet on baseball" - and also, understanding that 'just betting on the Reds to win' is no excuse and if anything, is just as bad if not worse as fading your own team.
                    you're a tough one. Alright, lets get Rice and Dawson in
                    bird bird da bird's da word
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388208

                      #45
                      No

                      Biggest steroid user in sports history
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                      • EDFED
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 02-23-08
                        • 176

                        #46
                        Dude - I'm a SOX fan and I remember the lightning he brought to us - back in 86 - 2nd year... he was always a big texas boy, bar fighter - a hoss. The way I remember him he is HOF material... I honestly considered him a whole different player after the BJ's (lol) and the Yanks (the BJ's and the Yanks - wow - lol)

                        N E way I remember that ROger so I vote YES - but - a naive yes.
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                        • EDFED
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 02-23-08
                          • 176

                          #47
                          I should google it but, wasn't he the youngest Cy Young award winner ever?

                          What else exceptional did he do?
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                          • Mudcat
                            Restricted User
                            • 07-21-05
                            • 9287

                            #48
                            I vote no. Too much of a dick.

                            If he complained and said that his baseball accomplishments warrant the HOF and lots of people were on steroids in his era I would say, "There is some solid logic in what you say but no - you are a dick."

                            And if he then said, but there are lots of dicks in the Hall of Fame I would say, "That's too bad, dick."
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                            • smitch124
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 05-19-08
                              • 12566

                              #49
                              Yes, I'd vote him in.
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                              • element1286
                                Restricted User
                                • 02-25-08
                                • 3370

                                #50
                                Yes.
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                                • smitch124
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 05-19-08
                                  • 12566

                                  #51
                                  Bonds - Yes
                                  McGwire - No
                                  Sosa - No
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                                  • unde0087
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 03-27-08
                                    • 28998

                                    #52
                                    Cheaters don't belong, plain and simple!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you let them in then the hall will be meaningless. The guy is a obvious cheat and he is too proud to admit it and come clean just like other dirtbags like Barry Bonds and Mark "the human roid" McGwire. That is why they were shunned from the game. It will take 100 years for those players to even get considered because people won't forget them getting caught red handed and instead of saying "yes" I took steroids they continue to live in their own little world and lie about it and that my friends is the reason people still and will always have a bad taste in their mouth about this era in baseball. America is a forgiving nation and if these players would have fessed up then everyone could have moved on but no, they have to continue to slap baseball and fans in the face by acting like they didn't do anything wrong.
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                                    • fiveteamer
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 04-14-08
                                      • 10805

                                      #53
                                      of course he's a hall of famer.
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                                      • unde0087
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 03-27-08
                                        • 28998

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by smitch124
                                        Bonds - Yes
                                        McGwire - No
                                        Sosa - No
                                        You would vote the biggest cheat in baseball ever Bonds in, wow you might as well spit in the face of all the greats in the hall. He will never be voted in....ever!
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                                        • smitch124
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 05-19-08
                                          • 12566

                                          #55
                                          In a second unde, in a second.
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                                          • unde0087
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 03-27-08
                                            • 28998

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by daggerkobe
                                            Only if the Hall of Fame adds a cheaters wing.

                                            This is the answer to any players that were named in the Mitchell report. Love it Dagger.
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                                            • EDFED
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 02-23-08
                                              • 176

                                              #57
                                              SOLUTION!

                                              We could have 2 hall of fames...
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                                              • Doc JS
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-15-06
                                                • 6885

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Willie Bee
                                                You mean the same group of writers that included some that didn't think players like Ted Williams and Willie Mays belonged in the Hall of Fame?
                                                With you 100% WB...any HOF voter who didn't vote Ted and Willie in on the first ballot should have their voting privilages revoked...

                                                Doc
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                                                • Doc JS
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 09-15-06
                                                  • 6885

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by unde0087;1147230[B
                                                  ]Cheaters don't belong, plain and simple!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [/B]
                                                  Gaylord Perry cheated and he's in the HOF...

                                                  Doc
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                                                  • Tsoprano
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 04-14-08
                                                    • 26374

                                                    #60
                                                    Yes
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