the patriots are idiots if they give the 2nd greatest receiver of all time and a top 5 receiver currently for a 3rd round pick....
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soxwin
SBR MVP
01-05-10
1885
#38
have you watched moss play this year? He was unhappy and gave up on the team. Nowhere near #1 receiver right now. That will change when he gets new contract for the Vikes. On the pats he would do nothing this year.
moss was traded to the patriots for a 4th round pick. They are trading a guy 4 years older and getting a 3rd round pick in return. Sounds like they did well. This is the NFL you don't get equal value in return.
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BestPlay2day
SBR Hall of Famer
08-25-08
5794
#39
Shows how much the Vikings need a deep threat receiver. I'm betting Rice doesn't play until late in the season and will not be the same. With a new contract extension and love from the Vikings fans, Moss will thrive on the Vikings.
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slacker00
SBR Posting Legend
10-06-05
12262
#40
This makes sense for both sides. This sux. Vikings will roll in the NFC North. Pats have guys that can step up.
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mdemps9190
SBR MVP
11-08-07
1957
#41
I don't like it for the Pats. I was hoping they could trade moss and one of their 2nd round picks for sidney rice or something, but obviously that won't happen. They need SOME other WR...Although they did win superbowls with givens, brown, and patten before.
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samgurt
SBR MVP
05-31-10
2980
#42
Time to get my old Moss jersey outta the attic!!!! wooohoooo
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bretb27
SBR Wise Guy
03-21-10
714
#43
Originally posted by rem sleep
the patriots are idiots if they give the 2nd greatest receiver of all time and a top 5 receiver currently for a 3rd round pick....
didn't the pat's get him for a third rounder? He's like a car, they go down in value every year lol. Getting another third round pick isn't a bad deal at all. I'm a patriots fan, let him go. During the Monday Night Romp of the Dolphins everyone on that team was pumped up EXCEPT for Moss. He's a cancer in the clubhouse, he's a lazy receiver, he gives up on the team, and he's past his prime. See ya Randy, if you couldn't get a ring with us you'll never get one.
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slacker00
SBR Posting Legend
10-06-05
12262
#44
Originally posted by bretb27
didn't the pat's get him for a third rounder? He's like a car, they go down in value every year lol. Getting another third round pick isn't a bad deal at all. I'm a patriots fan, let him go. During the Monday Night Romp of the Dolphins everyone on that team was pumped up EXCEPT for Moss. He's a cancer in the clubhouse, he's a lazy receiver, he gives up on the team, and he's past his prime. See ya Randy, if you couldn't get a ring with us you'll never get one.
He's got a better chance with the Vikes than with the Pats.
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Time is Money
SBR MVP
12-03-07
2255
#45
he isnt playing like a top 5 receiver but he isnt in top gear either.... there are reports that he got into a situation with Bill today so its hard to think he'll ever want to take it to that next gear seeing as he doesnt feel appreciated
pats just have to get thru this year because you draft aj green with oaklands pick and get a moss-like talent right back on the team
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Jonah
SBR MVP
10-21-09
4042
#46
Dumb for Patriots. Maybe Dumb for Moss. He going to be happy catching balls from Tavaris next year? And w/o Moss, there aint no underneath crap...It's called game planning. Dolphins took away Moss this week, like whatever team did against Wayne and the Colts a few weeks ago...Collie went off. Next team tries something else Wayne catches 15...
Chargers should try( I mean really try, AJ) to get Moss. He'd love catching from Rivers.
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bretb27
SBR Wise Guy
03-21-10
714
#47
Originally posted by slacker00
He's got a better chance with the Vikes than with the Pats.
haha yeah right. A better chance with a 1-2 soft NFC team that can't win at home, on the road, and has a grandfather QB with more picks than td's. Keep in mind Moss was literally minutes away from winning in 07. He won't even get another shot to play in February.
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jsmithj88
SBR MVP
12-27-08
3591
#48
thats a good trade for both. the pats never overpay anyone. at least they are getting a 3rd rounder rather than just letting him walk at the end of the year.
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Sportslover
Restricted User
06-04-09
860
#49
Like to see the Vikings do well so would be happy if this trade is completed.
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uhuhahah
SBR Wise Guy
10-06-09
588
#50
NE sux
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75_Percent
SBR Rookie
09-29-10
34
#51
Originally posted by Jimmy0607
Gaffney plays for the Broncos
brandon tate, UNC standout will take his spot if anything. and yeah, know your shiz before posting. you should know every player of every team if not every college they came out and what round they were taken, how tall they are, what's their 40, who took what in the FA market, coaching changes? Rainman that stuff if you are going money down my friend. im talkin every preseason mag available. granted so far this year in the nfl every game seems to be a coin flip so far. my rule of thumb, always wait til the 5th game b4 risking. wk 1 was the only obvious choice for me so far. cmon.... JAX over IND? we are talking about one of the worst defenses with virtually no pass rush vs the best passing offense around for a decade. lol throw logic out the window and tuck your gut!
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slacker00
SBR Posting Legend
10-06-05
12262
#52
Originally posted by bretb27
haha yeah right. A better chance with a 1-2 soft NFC team that can't win at home, on the road, and has a grandfather QB with more picks than td's. Keep in mind Moss was literally minutes away from winning in 07. He won't even get another shot to play in February.
The NFC North is open with the Bears looking vulnerable now that everyone is remembering how to defeat the Martz offense and GB is not going to overcome these injuries. The Vikings are in fine shape except at WR where they are in desperate need of a premium WR.
Moss changes everything for the Vikes. I wouldn't care if they were 0-4 and Chicago was 4-0, I'd still take the Vikes if they had Moss. Not to mention that Favre was crying about Moss way back in the GB days. He finally gets his wish, the love affair can consumate.
I wouldn't worry about a couple early season losses for the Vikes, one out of conference and one to the Saints who are having some fits of their own. I know it'll suck if it comes down to that game which sends it back to the big easy for a playoff game, but what are the odds that it'll come down like that? Vikes are undefeated in division, that's good enough after 3 games.
I'm not saying the Pats are chopped liver. I should clarify that the road to a title is easier through the NFC than the AFC.
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Capybara
SBR Posting Legend
08-17-08
11803
#53
First of all, we have no idea what the Pats are getting back, assuming this trade actually happens... A third-rounder was just a rumor...
I'm hoping we could get something more.
Honestly, I guess I understand why the Pats would do this -- they don't want any "me" players messing up the locker room, ESPECIALLY with so many first- and second-year players on the team! Moss has been a leader, but he's handled his contract situation really poorly, especially with that wacky press conference after the Week 1 win. Too much stirring the pot.
BUT..... this would SUCK!!!!! Everyone's talking about how we don't need him cuz we got so many weapons... but HELLO, how open do you think all these weapons are gonna be without Randy drawing two guys away??!!!!!
This is just lke with Seymour and it sucks. I'm tired of looking down the road! This team can still win now! Brady's on top of his game and by the end of the year, this D will be up to middle-of-the-pack, which is all we need.
Definitely pissed about this... Don't think Brandon Tate is ready yet to be anywhere near Moss's level.
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bretb27
SBR Wise Guy
03-21-10
714
#54
Originally posted by slacker00
The NFC North is open with the Bears looking vulnerable now that everyone is remembering how to defeat the Martz offense and GB is not going to overcome these injuries. The Vikings are in fine shape except at WR where they are in desperate need of a premium WR.
Moss changes everything for the Vikes. I wouldn't care if they were 0-4 and Chicago was 4-0, I'd still take the Vikes if they had Moss. Not to mention that Favre was crying about Moss way back in the GB days. He finally gets his wish, the love affair can consumate.
I wouldn't worry about a couple early season losses for the Vikes, one out of conference and one to the Saints who are having some fits of their own. I know it'll suck if it comes down to that game which sends it back to the big easy for a playoff game, but what are the odds that it'll come down like that? Vikes are undefeated in division, that's good enough after 3 games.
I'm not saying the Pats are chopped liver. I should clarify that the road to a title is easier through the NFC than the AFC.
I agree Moss makes the Vikings better but it doesn't necessarily make the Pats worse. To get off topic just a sec, the sox got rid of nomar in 04 and replaced him with a group of nobodies and they won the world series. Were they a better team losing a potential hall of famer? **** no, but they clicked better. The Vikings def have an easier path but the packers are damn solid, and the bears have the luxury of waiting for Cutler to get healthy after a good start.
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Andy117
SBR Hall of Famer
02-07-10
9511
#55
Would love to see this happen. **** the pats.
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bretb27
SBR Wise Guy
03-21-10
714
#56
Originally posted by Andy117
Would love to see this happen. **** the pats.
and what is it about the pats you hate so much?
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305GURU
Restricted User
10-04-10
1038
#57
Favre has wanted this since moss was in oakland MOSS plus RICE coming back in a couple weeks has to get Favre fired up for one more run
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slacker00
SBR Posting Legend
10-06-05
12262
#58
Originally posted by bretb27
I agree Moss makes the Vikings better but it doesn't necessarily make the Pats worse. To get off topic just a sec, the sox got rid of nomar in 04 and replaced him with a group of nobodies and they won the world series. Were they a better team losing a potential hall of famer? **** no, but they clicked better. The Vikings def have an easier path but the packers are damn solid, and the bears have the luxury of waiting for Cutler to get healthy after a good start.
The Packers are nowhere near solid. Check their injury report. They just lost their starting Strong Safety (Morgan Burnett) for the season. Add that to a secondary that already lost their staring corner (Al Harris) and other starting safety (Atari Bigby) before the season even started. Added to losing their #1 RB (Ryan Grant) for the season, they are now starting a slow white FB (John Kuhn) as their featured running back. Are you seriously trying to tell me that they can make the playoffs if things continue in this direction? The only way the Packers make the playoffs is if they win the division, which will only happen if the Bears & Vikings hand it to them. Packers aren't getting to double digit wins this year. Take 4 or 5 (or more) starters off any team and see what happens.
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bretb27
SBR Wise Guy
03-21-10
714
#59
Originally posted by slacker00
The Packers are nowhere near solid. Check their injury report. They just lost their starting Strong Safety (Morgan Burnett) for the season. Add that to a secondary that already lost their staring corner (Al Harris) and other starting safety (Atari Bigby) before the season even started. Added to losing their #1 RB (Ryan Grant) for the season, they are now starting a slow white FB (John Kuhn) as their featured running back. Are you seriously trying to tell me that they can make the playoffs if things continue in this direction? The only way the Packers make the playoffs is if they win the division, which will only happen if the Bears & Vikings hand it to them. Packers aren't getting to double digit wins this year. Take 4 or 5 (or more) starters off any team and see what happens.
essentially you just named the New England Patriots: bad/beat up defense, no running game, great qb. and you would have to agree the jets and fins are more competition than the bears and vikings, seeing as the fins already beat the vikings... and I'm not the only one to think the patriots will make the playoffs. In the nfl you need a good qb, and the packers have that. Safeties and corners are a dime a dozen; aside from revis, the champ bailey of old, and maybe ty law in his prime, there are NO corners that aren't replaceable. The packers win that division with ease, in my opinion. Let's keep this going, best debate I've had in a while
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scoobs
SBR Hustler
09-04-10
89
#60
He'll be happier back in Minny.
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bretb27
SBR Wise Guy
03-21-10
714
#61
add asante samuels to that list as well, although now he's kind of washed up...
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gmoney000
SBR Sharp
02-11-10
251
#62
hope not
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soli
SBR MVP
09-10-06
2503
#63
I like this move and would love to see Farve get a chance to play with Moss
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4TH AND STUPID
SBR MVP
08-08-09
2349
#64
belichek is a faggot who gets sucked off by the whole world. i hope they trade moss and lose , big arrogant faggot. you are nothing without moss and if you think any better you will found out.
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bretb27
SBR Wise Guy
03-21-10
714
#65
Originally posted by 4TH AND STUPID
belichek is a faggot who gets sucked off by the whole world. i hope they trade moss and lose , big arrogant faggot. you are nothing without moss and if you think any better you will found out.
hhahahhahaha you have to be the biggest fukking idiot of all time.
***** Newsflash *****
of the three super bowls the patriots have won in the Bilichick era, NONE, that's right, NONE have involved Randy Moss. Get off of the "i hate the patriots and Bill Bilichick because they win" bandwagon. Sorry your pussy ass titans got raped by us by 59 last year douche bag. you're a ******* clown
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bretb27
SBR Wise Guy
03-21-10
714
#66
I know your fragile mind is about to explode from all the information I bombarded you with, so go ahead and take your time for a comeback.
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castle
SBR Sharp
10-04-10
344
#67
Originally posted by bretb27
hhahahhahaha you have to be the biggest fukking idiot of all time. ***** Newsflash ***** of the three super bowls the patriots have won in the Bilichick era, NONE, that's right, NONE have involved Randy Moss. Get off of the "i hate the patriots and Bill Bilichick because they win" bandwagon. Sorry your pussy ass titans got raped by us by 59 last year douche bag. you're a ******* clown
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in2thethickofit
SBR MVP
09-26-09
2622
#68
Brady can now throw it to Welker 46 times per game...hahahaha
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Grind House
SBR MVP
01-01-10
1405
#69
The Vikings better trade for a Hot Tub Time Machine also, because Favre old ass is through. That old fuk arm is D-E-A-D. The Vikings are slamming themselves into a future hell hole sucking Favre's dick. Trading away picks, paying him 20 million dollars, now they gotta give Moss an extension and not finding a QB for the future. On top of all that shit and they won't get close to a Super Bowl. This is one dumb ass team.
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BernardMadoff
SBR Hall of Famer
12-12-09
6679
#70
Vikes paying Favre all this money this year, their trying to get something out of it.