how many beleive in the devil

[yisman]

The devil is more of a concept than a real thing.

“The Devil's greatest accomplishment was convincing the world he didn't exist.”

[nobs]

Wasnt the Devil supposed to be an Angel who turned bad so God kicked him out of heaven ?

I thought God knew everything, if God knew the Devil would turn bad why did he allow him to become an Angel in the first place ?

I thought once you got to heaven it was for eternity. I never heard you can be kicked out if you piss God off.

Who was the Devil before this happened ? I mean so before Lucifer was kicked out of Heaven there was only one option for people ? Heaven or nothing ?

[pavyracer]

[nobs]

Then explain why 77% (and rising) of all Americans are Christian. And I'd say that probably half of these people are very happy and/or make very good money and live lives most would envy. In my immediate family alone, I have 2 doctors, a pharmacist, pharmacy owner, nuclear plant manager with very high clearance, aeronautical engineer who develops future fighter jets for the government. They are all Christians and they all have IQs in genius range. They all live lives I would do anything to live. And that is just my family.

2 of these "Christians" dole out Drugs and 2 more of them help the Gov't bulid Weapons to kill people. But they make a lot of money, so its all good. Oh I love how "Christians" ignore whatever parts of Christianity it is convienent for them to ignore.

Just about every Christian I know thinks we are in the end times.

[pirate]

I think Clarence Darrow said it best... "I am an agnostic; I do not pretend to know what many ignorant men are sure of."

Who are these ignorant men? Well, over 99% of the prison population(in the U.S.) believe in God. However, very few scientists believe in God. There's a chance that the uneducated gang banging prisoners could be right I suppose. But I tend to respect highly educated Scientists opinions over uneducated prisoners opinions. Last time I checked it was Scientists that were doing good things for mankind, not uneducated people that believe in nonsense. As for me, all I want to see is 1 SHRED OF EVIDENCE that God OR the Devil exists. Anyone have a SHRED of evidence?

I see the evidence in every intricate design in nature. Where there is design there must be a designer...or...billions of years of mutations. Since we have never seen a mutation which created a more advanced life form, the evidence says God...But much more than this...I have studied odds all my life and the odds of just a few biblical messianic prophecies happening to 1 person are astonomical. Jesus fulfilled every biblical prophecy...333..what are the odds?

[THE PROFIT]

I see the evidence in every intricate design in nature. Where there is design there must be a designer...or...billions of years of mutations. Since we have never seen a mutation which created a more advanced life form, the evidence says God...But much more than this...I have studied odds all my life and the odds of just a few biblical messianic prophecies happening to 1 person are astonomical. Jesus fulfilled every biblical prophecy...333..what are the odds?

[THE PROFIT]

It just comes down to natural vs. supernatural. Was the miracle that is this universe, and the pocket that we are in where life can exist.....could that have just happened? It's much more logical to me to recognize that there has to be a supernatural element.

I mean........not only does it exist, but we can see it. How? Vision. What is vision? How can there be eyeballs and a brain that work together to give us the visual image of the world without a creator?

its called evolution. Not all things had big brains & eyeballs but they adapted, same reason fish have gills & amphians developed lungs, to as simply as why my Anglo Saxon ancestors are fukin white while Africans are blacker than the ace of spades!

And why are you so arrogant to think that we are in a small pocket that life can exist??? Not even a small pocket of the universe has been explored because us humans are not near that advanced yet!

[2daBank]

i didnt even bother reading through this thread as im sure it is the normal religious bs we always get in threads like this....simple answer, i believe in the devil as much as i do god.....which is to say fuk no i dont believe in the devil, or the boogie man, or the Easter bunny, or the virgin birth, or any other fairly tail bs......

[THE PROFIT]

God is a ghost, the devil is a ghoul, and Jesus is a zombie. Sounds like Night of the living dead to me. Get your head outta your ass guys & quit pondering fairy tales & ghost stories. There's goddamn football to handicap!

[JW Cash]

God is a ghost, the devil is a ghoul, and Jesus is a zombie. Sounds like Night of the living dead to me. Get your head outta your ass guys & quit pondering fairy tales & ghost stories. There's goddamn football to handicap!

BEST post of this STUPID TREAD !!!!!!

[2daBank]

I think Clarence Darrow said it best... "I am an agnostic; I do not pretend to know what many ignorant men are sure of."

Who are these ignorant men? Well, over 99% of the prison population(in the U.S.) believe in God. However, very few scientists believe in God. There's a chance that the uneducated gang banging prisoners could be right I suppose. But I tend to respect highly educated Scientists opinions over uneducated prisoners opinions. Last time I checked it was Scientists that were doing good things for mankind, not uneducated people that believe in nonsense. As for me, all I want to see is 1 SHRED OF EVIDENCE that God OR the Devil exists. Anyone have a SHRED of evidence?

great fukkin quote, i say something similar all the time, didnt realize i stole it....

[2daBank]

God is a ghost, the devil is a ghoul, and Jesus is a zombie. Sounds like Night of the living dead to me. Get your head outta your ass guys & quit pondering fairy tales & ghost stories. There's goddamn football to handicap!

[Snowball]

Remains of St. John the Baptist found on an island in the Black Sea.

http://news.google.com/news/search?pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=sozopol+baptist&cf=all&as_qdr=w&as_drrb=q

[THE PROFIT]

Just out of curiosity, WTF does that have to do with anything?

[chilidog]

Remains of St. John the Baptist found on an island in the Black Sea.

http://news.google.com/news/search?p...dr=w&as_drrb=q

I remember a few months back when they thought they had found remains of the Ark. False.

Besides, proving that a mortal man existed is irrelevant. Prove to me that an immortal man existed.

[THE PROFIT]

yeah, I love when people try to make an argument by saying that Jesus existed! I have no doubt that Jesus existed, Its documented by very reliable sources. And the shit he was rattling on about got his ass crucified

[Robber]

i didnt even bother reading through this thread as im sure it is the normal religious bs we always get in threads like this....simple answer, i believe in the devil as much as i do god.....which is to say fuk no i dont believe in the devil, or the boogie man, or the Easter bunny, or the virgin birth, or any other fairly tail bs......

yeah i hate those damn fairly tails

[2daBank]

yeah, I love when people try to make an argument by saying that Jesus existed! I have no doubt that Jesus existed, Its documented by very reliable sources. And the shit he was rattling on about got his ass crucified

sure jesus existed...i just find it hard to believe his mother was a virgin, or he turned water into wine, or any of the other bs in the stories......

[chilidog]

Its documented by very reliable sources. And the shit he was rattling on about got his ass crucified

What are these very reliable sources? Show me one text that talks about Christ during his life. An eyewitness testimony. Even the Gospels in the New Testament were written after Jesus' death. They hadn't even been born yet, during the life of Jesus.

[JohnGalt2341]

God DID create the Universe! This video proves it! This video is a MUST see for Believers as well as Non-Believers:

[JW Cash]

Reading all the things people REALLY believe in this thread...

Is it no wonder why there were countless wars in the history of mankind based on religion...

[JW Cash]

Religion exists simply because people dont want to believe that
once they are dead...


...there is nothing more.....

[pavyracer]

I will use an NFL rule as an analogy. If there is no indisputable evidence in the video replay to overrule the call on the field the call stands. And from my perspective the call on the field was God does not exist.

[Ced's shadow]

Cash and I told y'all already, he exists cuz he went down to georgia that one time, ask Johnny to show you his golden fiddle

[Goat Milk]

Not surprised most gamblers don't believe in God considering they think you can find all the answers in life with logic.....

[yisman]

Whatever the truth is, I wish people would be less hostile.

It goes both ways. So much anger. Very little respecting someone else's position.

[chilidog]

Not surprised most gamblers don't believe in God considering they think you can find all the answers in life with logic.....

So you prefer illogical, emotional thinking instead? Sounds just like a woman to me ...

[2daBank]

Not surprised most gamblers don't believe in God considering they think you can find all the answers in life with logic.....

not hardly, im just reasonable enough to know i dont know all the answers and i damn sure dont need religion lying to me to fill some void......im pretty content not knowing or caring for that matter, i can spot bs when i hear it though and Christianity is the biggest crock of shit of all time.....

[JW Cash]

Cash and I told y'all already, he exists cuz he went down to georgia that one time, ask Johnny to show you his golden fiddle

[Ced's shadow]

[Goat Milk]

not hardly, im just reasonable enough to know i dont know all the answers and i damn sure dont need religion lying to me to fill some void......im pretty content not knowing or caring for that matter, i can spot bs when i hear it though and Christianity is the biggest crock of shit of all time.....

Do you know anything about Islam 2theBank?

[Goat Milk]

So you prefer illogical, emotional thinking instead? Sounds just like a woman to me ...

Not saying this. But I can tell you one thing. I have had the chance to meet a variety of people of all different religions and modes of thought.

I'll tell you that the ones that were logical, these were the kids I was friends with who were the most stubborn and the most arrogant. They thought they had all the answers. They thought logic could show them the way for everything. Many of these kids get fukked over constantly because they don't see things outside the box, they don't understand how the world works and how people think. The only thing they know is what is reasonable and what is logical. They think someone won't do something because there is no way to support doing such a thing, because it does not make sense, because its irrational. These types of people are very naive and don't understand the way other people think. Understanding the way other people think and behave is very important.

[2daBank]

Do you know anything about Islam 2theBank?

not a whole lot, i was friends with a few cats that were into it in prison......always fukkin praying, not for me.......



personally i find all organized religion to be a scam.....

[muldoon]

I'll tell you that the ones that were logical, these were the kids I was friends with who were the most stubborn and the most arrogant. They thought they had all the answers. They thought logic could show them the way for everything. Many of these kids get fukked over constantly because they don't see things outside the box, they don't understand how the world works and how people think. The only thing they know is what is reasonable and what is logical. They think someone won't do something because there is no way to support doing such a thing, because it does not make sense, because its irrational. These types of people are very naive and don't understand the way other people think. Understanding the way other people think and behave is very important.

And because of this...there must be a God?

You speak about logic like it's a negative. Your broad strokes about how the "kids" you met who were logical also were the most arrogant shows me that you already make up your mind when you meet someone who doesn't buy into the currently accept fairytales.

We had a government filled with religious people who should be better at grasping supposed irrational behavior (according to you). What was their response to 9-11? "They hate us for our freedom!"

Nothing like dealing with (on the surface) irrational behavior with irrational responses.

Science says "we don't know, let's postulate and hypothesize. Then let's learn from our failures as we pursue the answer."

Religion says "the sun disappeared during the day - God must be angry"

One moves us forward, the other is an intellectual anchor to mankind.

[tunaguitar76]

These types of people are very naive and don't understand the way other people think. Understanding the way other people think and behave is very important.

This is a hysterical comment from a person who continuously displays the exact opposite of this....

you are so clueless its not even funny. i am not going to waste my time dismantling this statement.

I don't like retarded statements from people that don't know what they are talking about

You are a moron JW Cash

I could give two fukks if you win or lose. You obviously don't understand my point. I will not spend time clarifying.

cool maybe one day I'll be a big time like you 50 year old man with no family

you keep embarassing yourself over and over. this is not the place or time for your comments.

Umm yea.. you really seem to put an emphasis on understanding people