No one has taught me more about beating the closing number than Nicky.

Richkas · 07-17-10, 04:32 PM

Nicky is a true pro

jjgold · 07-17-10, 05:01 PM

Slicker but do you do it successfully??

Nicky Santoro · 07-17-10, 05:22 PM

slicker, i never really told anyone how to do it.. it's tricky.. all i ever said was that no matter what you know in sports, i dont care if you know every stat humanly possible, i don't care if you can name every player in sports, no matter how much of a bankroll you have, YOU WILL GO BROKE. don't believe me, try it?? you MUST beat that closer more often than not..or you might as well give your money to charity, cause it ain't going in your pocket..

but you can't just learn to beat closer in one day or one week. takes years and years and years to be able to do it.. no one can ever ever ever do it consistently on every game. even guys like Billy Walters will have games move against him and he'll end up betting against the closing #..

but there are ways that you can beat it more often than it goes against you.. if you study the line movement well and see trends, you can beat it 60% of the time, easily.. but even then it's tough. it takes years and years of studying this stuff. but you can do it more often than not if you play at matchy and a few other good books like 5dimes, betjam and pinny, just beat it 57% of the time and you can retire..

SlickFazzer · 07-18-10, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by Nicky Santoro

slicker, i never really told anyone how to do it.. it's tricky.. all i ever said was that no matter what you know in sports, i dont care if you know every stat humanly possible, i don't care if you can name every player in sports, no matter how much of a bankroll you have, YOU WILL GO BROKE. don't believe me, try it?? you MUST beat that closer more often than not..or you might as well give your money to charity, cause it ain't going in your pocket..

but you can't just learn to beat closer in one day or one week. takes years and years and years to be able to do it.. no one can ever ever ever do it consistently on every game. even guys like Billy Walters will have games move against him and he'll end up betting against the closing #..

but there are ways that you can beat it more often than it goes against you.. if you study the line movement well and see trends, you can beat it 60% of the time, easily.. but even then it's tough. it takes years and years of studying this stuff. but you can do it more often than not if you play at matchy and a few other good books like 5dimes, betjam and pinny, just beat it 57% of the time and you can retire..

Excellent information Nicky!

mdemps9190 · 07-18-10, 03:35 PM

Would love to hear about this more Fazzer

tltaylor89 · 07-18-10, 03:38 PM

stniop RBS EM EVIG

yisman · 07-18-10, 03:41 PM

Let's play a game.

No one has taught me more about ________ ______ ________ than SlickFazzer.

tltaylor89 · 07-18-10, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by yisman

Let's play a game.

No one has taught me more about __Asking______for ______ points

________ than SlickFazzer.

Asking
for points

Chi_archie · 07-18-10, 03:47 PM

drinking coors light

durito · 07-18-10, 03:49 PM

Chasing steam isn't real difficult. Just watch the ******* board.

SlickFazzer · 07-18-10, 03:50 PM

Originally posted by durito

Chasing steam isn't real difficult. Just watch the ******* board.

If it is so easy, why doesn't everyone do it?

BurtRapp · 07-18-10, 03:52 PM

You can get the best closing numbers in the world but if you can't pick winners you go broke.

yisman · 07-18-10, 03:53 PM

Boys, you're 0/2, but don't get disheartened now.

The first answer would've worked had I been asking about tltaylor89, and the second for Uncle Richie.

Originally posted by SlickFazzer

If it is so easy, why doesn't everyone do it?

Chasing steam on a regular basis will get you booted at many books.

durito · 07-18-10, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by SlickFazzer

If it is so easy, why doesn't everyone do it?

I don't know. People are dumb.

I only work a few hours a day, I take months off at a time, pretty damn easy.

SlickFazzer · 07-18-10, 03:57 PM

Durito you are one of the few who have the discipline to do things the right way
and not blow it all on overbetting, chasing, and impluse bets.

Much can be learned from how you do things....

dinaro7 · 07-18-10, 03:58 PM

i agree u cant win

Brock Landers · 07-18-10, 04:01 PM

Nicky is a fukking gamblers gambler...the man may have invented the modern line as well all know it today.

Chi_archie · 07-18-10, 04:02 PM

do you have to have a service like don best's to effectively chase steam?

SlickFazzer · 07-18-10, 04:05 PM

Some sort of real time service would be beneficial.

RealSlimShady · 07-18-10, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by SlickFazzer

If it is so easy, why doesn't everyone do it?

Because many people bet for the action.

RealSlimShady · 07-18-10, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by BurtRapp

You can get the best closing numbers in the world but if you can't pick winners you go broke.

Not according to some people. They theorize that if you beat the closing number consistently, you will be a winner long term.

betplom · 07-18-10, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by yisman

Let's play a game.

No one has taught me more about ________ ______ ________ than SlickFazzer.

No one has taught me more about masturbating to porn than SlickFazzer.

chrisharvard01 · 07-18-10, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by durito

I don't know. People are dumb.

I only work a few hours a day, I take months off at a time, pretty damn easy.

durito · 07-18-10, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by BurtRapp

You can get the best closing numbers in the world but if you can't pick winners you go broke.

This is why you are a broke criminal.

durito · 07-18-10, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

do you have to have a service like don best's to effectively chase steam?

No, just open pinny.

Nicky Santoro · 07-18-10, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by BurtRapp

You can get the best closing numbers in the world but if you can't pick winners you go broke.

burty boy, you can't be more wrong than that.. it is mathematically impossible to lose over the very long haul if you beat the closing # consistently.. do you hear me.. IMPOSSIBLE.. no matter how many losers you pick, there will be a time you will just pick winners only.. everything will even out at the end no matter how bad you are, and will turn you into a winner..

it's called mathematics..

Fishhead · 07-18-10, 05:28 PM

DURITO with solid post after solid post in this thread.........

Most of you here should re-read and re-read each post of his in this thread.........

Rich Boy · 07-18-10, 05:30 PM

Nicky gave us a fool proof method to make money earlier...

Bet unders, always.

I looked into this and almost every sport has more unders than overs at the end of the season... Not by much, but if you shop around for good numbers you will win.

Nicky Santoro · 07-18-10, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by durito

No, just open pinny.

durito,

i hate to argue with you because i like you now because you sent me 14 pts yesterday for no reason, which was really nice of you.. now having said that... if you really want to chase steam in an easier fashion, believe me when i say... pinny is NOT the place to follow.. it's matchbook..

matchbook has the sharpest lines in the offshore world.. 94% of the time, PINNY is behind matchy.. there's no book more that i respect their lines than matchy.. not pinny..

Nicky Santoro · 07-18-10, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by Rich Boy

Nicky gave us a fool proof method to make money earlier...

Bet unders, always.

I looked into this and almost every sport has more unders than overs at the end of the season... Not by much, but if you shop around for good numbers you will win.

richie,

don't you remember my thread of 1 yr ago when i said if you bet every under in sports at the very very best #, you will retire.. I thought everyone knew this..

but you must have at least 6 good shops, incl matchy and pinny, and watch the money come in..

durito · 07-18-10, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by Nicky Santoro

durito,

i hate to argue with you because i like you now because you sent me 14 pts yesterday for no reason, which was really nice of you.. now having said that... if you really want to chase steam in an easier fashion, believe me when i say... pinny is NOT the place to follow.. it's Matchbook..

matchbook has the sharpest lines in the offshore world.. 94% of the time, PINNY is behind matchy.. there's no book more that i respect their lines than matchy.. not pinny..

Matchbook lines are always right inside pinny. Their markets don't tighten until pinny has full limits.

Who do you think is making those offers at matchbook?

yisman · 07-18-10, 06:02 PM

plomberg, you're starting to get warm.

Pokerjoe · 07-18-10, 07:43 PM

Here we go again with this BTCL crap.

You know the secret to beating this game? Bet on the team that outscores their opponent by more than the spread.

Brilliant, huh? And as informative as BTCL.

When I first got into this game, more than 20 years ago, the hot idea was "the winning team covers the spread almost all the time, so don't worry about beating the spread, just pick the winning team!"

People were talking about that like it had meaning, like it was an insight, like it was a clarification.

Now, they talk about BTCL the same way and for the same reason.

SlickFazzer · 07-18-10, 08:39 PM

Many good betting lessons in this thread!