OT: Any self-made millionaires out there?

[ShamsWoof10]

I knock you at times but you deserve a congrats not that you are looking for one I know... You did well having a wife and saving but I was impressed with the comment that you would trade every buck for a child...

I have looked at the housing market in Louisville and it is very reasonable actually for the size of the city.... I like the girls down there and if housing drops much more then that might be the place to be for me...

By the way I think unless you have a family...renting is better then buying anyday...

[SBR_John]

Some great posts in this thread. It took a while to read them all but well worth the time. Excellent points and very helpful.

[durito]

It costs about a million$ to raise a kid in the US these days.

[Robert Schroeder]

TRUE But .....

Wow big ups to you man if it is indeed true

BTW are you married?

would be awfully hard to have two fulltime jobs and be married

That would be a great excuse when she says " You're never home" If indeed you are married .HIDE YOUR MONEY

[HedgeHog]

I knock you at times but you deserve a congrats not that you are looking for one I know... You did well having a wife and saving but I was impressed with the comment that you would trade every buck for a child...

I have looked at the housing market in Louisville and it is very reasonable actually for the size of the city.... I like the girls down there and if housing drops much more then that might be the place to be for me...

By the way I think unless you have a family...renting is better then buying anyday...

This post made my day. Thanks, Shams.

[jjgold]

99% of guys on forums are barreled in, no guys with big money are posting here.

Most guys have one room flats here

Most guys have many addictions here

Johnny your fukkin broke like the rest of us........lol I saw your house half of the roof is blown off...lol...........you fukkin broke bum, you rather gamble than fix your roof.

Johnny I heard 19 complaints made against you from neighbors for property maintenance violations. Your a real winner like the rest of us.

If you gamble you have no money.

[SBR_John]

I wouldnt say broke but I'm not taking ad money from SBG or Sportsbook.com either .

As a guy said on page 1 of this thread it really doesn't matter how big your bankroll is and I 100% believe that. I got a great girl and love what I do. Going to a college grad for one of my great kids next week and caught a 4 lb bass in 40 degree weather a couple of days ago. If I had a lot of money I'd just blow it anyway.

[Robert Schroeder]

True Dat

99% of guys on forums are barreled in, no guys with big money are posting here.

Most guys have one room flats here

Most guys have many addictions here

Johnny your fukkin broke like the rest of us........lol I saw your house half of the roof is blown off...lol...........you fukkin broke bum, you rather gamble than fix your roof.

Johnny I heard 19 complaints made against you from neighbors for property maintenance violations. Your a real winner like the rest of us.

If you gamble you have no money.

[Dark Horse]

99% of guys on forums are barreled in, no guys with big money are posting here.

Most guys have one room flats here

Most guys have many addictions here

Johnny your fukkin broke like the rest of us........lol I saw your house half of the roof is blown off...lol...........you fukkin broke bum, you rather gamble than fix your roof.

Johnny I heard 19 complaints made against you from neighbors for property maintenance violations. Your a real winner like the rest of us.

If you gamble you have no money.

Just the point I was trying to make earlier. If you had a guy like that on your team - sport, business, whatever-, you wouldn't want him there. For obvious reasons.

[Iwinyourmoney]

I was VERY VERY close to being a millionair when I was 18-19, but my thing got shut down/raided

.....and that was like 5 years ago. I miss those days

[idontlikerocks]

i think the easiest way to wealth is also the most obvious....real estate....if you have any abilities at fixing up fixer uppers you will eventually make a lot of money buying cheap , renting them out , and selling them when you want cash... my wife and i both work and have two kids, we have put money into retirement accounts and we have accounts through our jobs.....but we have made more money off of the 2 properties that we own than we have ever been able to save or make through our 25 years of working

[raiders72002]

HH is a good guy so this is an exception but most guys will come in and brag to make up for some other deficiency in their life.

If you have a losing day, have problems at home, problems at work, it's just a way to fantasize for one's own gratification.

When I was playing softball we'd go out after the game and have a few beers. At the bar I could care less how much money or what someone else did for a living. If someone brought up a topic such as how did you made your first million, none of us could care less.

This is similar to the way that I see the forums. Leave the bragging at home. Once again, I do believe that HH is an exception.

[SBR Lou]

Everybody is a rich guy in threads like this, just like everyone is a pro gambler when those "are you a pro?" threads come up.

We are all losers. Isn't that why we all connect here? Stop trying to put gambling or money on a pedestal, we will never be successful in either regard. The only people who profit here are SBR for gathering us all and books for taking our money.

[Mr Charles 76]

Could care less about those living off Daddy's Trust Fund. Anybody do it on their own, and if so how? Took me 19 years to save the first M. I should have the 2nd by 2010 (just 7 years later than the first)--thanks to compounding. My secret was to work two full time jobs until 2000, investing one of my paychecks into stock mutual funds (had a great run in the 1980's and 1990's.)

Anybody else do it differently? Like to hear some success stories

When did you start working those jobs

[Mr Charles 76]

They say the second million is much easier. I sure hope so cause that 1st mil is a bi-atch! Another 37.2 years and I'll have that 1st mil.

37.2 means your not working hard enough, or not at the right job, or not saving enough or not investing right or all of the above.

Don't mean to burst your bubble but if 37.2 years is really your magic number......... Your never going to get there. Maybe time to revamp you plan

[Mr Charles 76]

The second Mil is just a 50/50

All you got to do is put your first Mil on the Gmen vs the bears and you have a 50/50 shot at 2 Million

LOL 50/50 for the homeless shelter too.

[Mr Charles 76]

HH: You probably aren't aware of the gaming forum poster profile.

Most guys here are in there 20s or 30s. Most live in an apartment, are single or have g/fs they can't committ to, have jobs (as opposed to careers), have some college education, exprerience long bouts of depression and volatile mood swings, have few if any hobbies outside of gambling, don't make much money with their job, and whatever money they make is spent on gambling and fantasizing about becoming a pro gambler. 90%+ on here are long term losers in gambling, 5-7% may be break even, 3-5% of posters are winning gamblers.

Suffice to say, the "millionaires" who post on here are few and far in between.....

Buddybear,

Obviously you are one of those who is in his 20s or 30s (could be later in life which would make you even worse), who lives in an apartment, is single or has g/f you can't committ to, has a job (as opposed to a career), has some college education (doubtful but possible), expreriences long bouts of depression and volatile mood swings, has few if any hobbies outside of gambling, doesn't make much money with his/her job, and whatever money you make is spent on gambling and fantasizing about becoming a pro gambler. You are obviously a long term loser in gambling, who breaks even 5-7% of the time, and wins 3-5% of the time which explains your negative outlook on everyone else that supports the same forum you felt like posting this bullshit rant on.


That all being said and since you don't have your first Million either, WTF makes you think you are qualified to comment regarding the rest of us?

Just curious?

[Mr Charles 76]

I'm surprised how $1 million over 2 decades impressed a few (any idiot can save it...I did). I was hoping for more posts like DH who says big deal, this is how I made much more than your chump change. ) Believe it or not, that's what I wanted: People to laugh at my lowly nest egg, because they won more over the years...that's what I wanted

Thats 50K per year. That is not an "any idiot can save it" situation considering most people in this country (around 80%) don't even earn that much in a year.

That said, it makes the fact that you did save it in 20 years even more of a feat. Congrats!

[Mr Charles 76]

By the way I think unless you have a family...renting is better then buying anyday...

Are you considering that if you pay 1000 per month for a house payment for 5 years you will make about the same amount on price inflation? Unless you live in the sticks that is?


Investment wise you get your money back (and then some usually) if you own for 5 years as opposed to renting. When you rent all you get is an argument about why they dont owe you your deposit back.

Renting is NEVER better than buying unless you cant afford the down payment.

[Mr Charles 76]

Everybody is a rich guy in threads like this, just like everyone is a pro gambler when those "are you a pro?" threads come up.

We are all losers. Isn't that why we all connect here? Stop trying to put gambling or money on a pedestal, we will never be successful in either regard. The only people who profit here are SBR for gathering us all and books for taking our money.

MAN IT MUST SUCK TO BE YOU. I BET IT SUCKS EVEN MORE TO KNOW YOU WITH ALL THAT NEGATIVISM. (I think I just made that word up...... Kudos to me)

[Mr Charles 76]

I was VERY VERY close to being a millionair when I was 18-19, but my thing got shut down/raided

.....and that was like 5 years ago. I miss those days

****ing Crack Houses. Raided every time. Don't you just hate that?

[Iwinyourmoney]

****ing Crack Houses. Raided every time. Don't you just hate that?

haha. no not that. I was the 4th largest seller of replica goods in the world. Fake oakleys, rolex, omega...ect ect. My internet shop profited $30k a month....that doesnt include selling to businesses and resellers. Odds are if you bought replica goods on the street, in mexico, ect.........they came from me. Damn copyright laws.

[vanman]

Good read.
Anyone who has made money by grafting for it has my utmost respect.

[HedgeHog]

HH is a good guy so this is an exception but most guys will come in and brag to make up for some other deficiency in their life.

If you have a losing day, have problems at home, problems at work, it's just a way to fantasize for one's own gratification.

When I was playing softball we'd go out after the game and have a few beers. At the bar I could care less how much money or what someone else did for a living. If someone brought up a topic such as how did you made your first million, none of us could care less.

This is similar to the way that I see the forums. Leave the bragging at home. Once again, I do believe that HH is an exception.

Appreciate the benefit of the doubt. This was meant to be a fun thread, but some took it as bragging. My story was (is) quite boring. I have a decent nest egg waiting for me when I turn 59.5 because I worked blue collar jobs, mostly janitorial and carpet cleaning, and maxed out 401ks and IRAs. I was looking for how others have done it or are doing it now--like in real estate.

I envisioned Ganch coming forward and saying how he made millions as a day trader via his Kelly Calculator for stocks. Or JJ as a Cathouse operator in Nevada, but had to give it up because he couldn't keep away from the merchandise. Maybe SBR John admits starting out as a Chippendale dancer, getting rich one dollar at a time. Fun stuff like that.

PS I also found time to play softball (16-inch) for 20 seasons. I miss the after game parties.

[durito]

Renting is NEVER better than buying unless you cant afford the down payment.

Tell that to the people who bought at the top of the boom, whose house prices wont be worth what they paid for them for another 15-20 years.

Historically this has generally been true, but right now it's not so clear cut.

[SBR_John]

Maybe SBR John admits starting out as a Chippendale dancer, getting rich one dollar at a time. Fun stuff like that.

Uhhh... not so much but I did do a fair amount of disco dancing back in the day.

Actually threads like this are very helpful to younger guys looking to get ahead. The strange thing is most sucessful guys don't like to share their knowledge and even stranger is that a lot of guys who could be helped dont want to hear it.

Next week I'm going to start a thread that will make everyone more money in their professional life.

[BuddyBear]

Buddybear,

Obviously you are one of those who is in his 20s or 30s (could be later in life which would make you even worse), who lives in an apartment, is single or has g/f you can't committ to, has a job (as opposed to a career), has some college education (doubtful but possible), expreriences long bouts of depression and volatile mood swings, has few if any hobbies outside of gambling, doesn't make much money with his/her job, and whatever money you make is spent on gambling and fantasizing about becoming a pro gambler. You are obviously a long term loser in gambling, who breaks even 5-7% of the time, and wins 3-5% of the time which explains your negative outlook on everyone else that supports the same forum you felt like posting this bullshit rant on.


That all being said and since you don't have your first Million either, WTF makes you think you are qualified to comment regarding the rest of us?

Just curious?

First of all, i am a few semesters away from getting my phd if you really must know. Second of all, why don't you tell us who is posting on these gaming forums. Do you think it is rich people? Do you think it is successful people? It is well documented that people who bet on sports are long term losers. Let me guess...you make "millions" betting sports and I've severely insulted you. It sounds to me that most likely that description fits you to a tee and you are angry that it does. Almost everyone loses, almost everyone on here is a young guy who does not have much going for them outside one of two things that they'll manage to blow because of gambling. It's hardly a "bullshit rant" but a rather a sobering look at who the gaming forum poster is. Really most guys are losers...not necessarily in personality but in terms of picking winners and life goals. Some more than others but if your hanging out at a gambling forum, that's not a good sign...... I don't know if you've been around these forums long but these threads are full of guys who are full shit. Most guys say they are rich, most guys have hot wives, most guys are pro gamblers, most guys hit 70%.....you have to understand, most guys on here live in fantasy world. I don't doubt what HH is saying per se...it's very possible he is a millionaire and quite frankly I could care less. But also knowing that he is posting on a gaming forum there is also a very strong possibility that he is lying and full of shit just to impress people. Lot of guys on here with very low self-esteem and need a good pick me up and what better way to feel better about yourself than to lie about money, about winning percentage, about getting laid, etc....I've been around the block bro on these gaming forums and have seen the cast of characters. You've got a long way to go bro before you can seriously challenge me to backup my comments.

[HedgeHog]

BBear:

Guessing your PHD will be in Psychology. Agree about all the BS that goes on here; you have every right to be skeptical. Obviously very few people win gambling in the long run, so I was wondering how they profit elsewhere. I meant for the thread to be light-hearted, not a money = respect angle.

[raiders72002]

PS I also found time to play softball (16-inch) for 20 seasons. I miss the after game parties.

You live in the Chicago area too? Not many play 16" outside of this area. 16" is a great game but hell on the fingers.

[mshanedub420]

money is not everything.....but almost everything costs money
also education is useless.....I just got my 4 year bachelor's in Finance(and business) from the Fisher college of business @ Ohio State and I feel like I did nothing but waste my time..........i knew most of that shit before I went..........times have changed it used to be like...hey hes got a degree...hes educated.....now its like....he dosent have a degree.....he must be a ****ing idiot..all the degree proves these days is that your not a total ****ing idiot

[HedgeHog]

Raiders:

Yep. Played in the DuPage County Employees League. Every department is represented (States Attorney, Probation, Forest Preserve, Health Dept, etc...). Pitched and played all infield positions (except 1B). Now I live closer to Rockford most of the year.


PS Jammed a few fingers over the years.

[BuddyBear]

BBear:

Guessing your PHD will be in Psychology. .

close. Media effects research.....

If i ever finish though.....

[HedgeHog]

close. Media effects research.....

If i ever finish though.....

When you do get your PHD make sure you post, so I can be one of the first to say congrats to Dr Buddy Bear.

[BuddyBear]

When you do get your PHD make sure you post, so I can be one of the first to say congrats to Dr Buddy Bear.

At this rate, it seems very very far. Check back in 2009 if all goes well. I am technically ABD (all but disseration) but right now, the light at the end of the tunnel is extremely dim and I don't know how far my eyes can see these days.

I wish I had never placed a bet in my life....gambling ruined me. I was bright too.....

[Gurni]

Second of all, why don't you tell us who is posting on these gaming forums. Do you think it is rich people? Do you think it is successful people? It is well documented that people who bet on sports are long term losers.

You are just forgetting that a lot of posters here are probably no gamblers..SBR is the Nr.1 source for scalpers, bonus hunters, and in general people that need to know how good a book really is.

If we would talk RX or EOG, now that would be a different story.