Gallaraga AND Joyce may both become MORE respected because of all this

Holtgetsback · 06-03-10, 09:19 AM

Gallaraga handled it as well as one could.

Fishhead · 06-03-10, 09:23 AM

I would love to see the Tigers fans not only not greet Joyce today with a chorus of boos and bad words, but to applaud the guy and move on........if I were a Tiger fan at the game lastnight and going to the game this afternoon, I would do my best to let him know that everything is ok and how I've appreciated his service to the game for so many years.

He missed the call, not the end of the world and certainly should never blemish the fact that he has been a very, very good umpire for the past 20+ years.

Again, from this point on, count me as being a big fan of both Gallaraga and Joyce.

xyzky · 06-03-10, 09:24 AM

Much respect for Gallaraga...Joyce is just trying to cover his ass right now!

OverUnder · 06-03-10, 09:25 AM

Exactly. Joyce did not miss the call on purpose, he was not trying to rob anyone of history. He was just trying to do his job to the best of his ability. We all screw up at work, it is just we never have decisions with this much public implications as these guys do on a day to day basis.

Deuce · 06-03-10, 09:25 AM

Armando took it like a man, Joyce made a classy move but you bet your ass Joyce will get boo'd off the field today when he is behind the dish.

Fishhead · 06-03-10, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by Deuce

Armando took it like a man, Joyce made a classy move but you bet your ass Joyce will get boo'd off the field today when he is behind the dish.

Time for the Tigers fans to show a little class..........I'm sure many will.

thebayareabeast · 06-03-10, 09:27 AM

Joyce is a disgrace and just about the biggest donkey I've ever seen.

Get your mouths off his dick people, you gotta be kidding me. He should be taken out and decapitated.

OverUnder · 06-03-10, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by Deuce

Armando took it like a man, Joyce made a classy move but you bet your ass Joyce will get boo'd off the field today when he is behind the dish.

Bigger strike zone for Detroit today??

Fishhead · 06-03-10, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by thebayareabeast

Joyce is a disgrace and just about the biggest donkey I've ever seen.

Get your mouths off his dick people, you gotta be kidding me. He should be taken out and decapitated.

Nice post

Are you looking for attention or are you really this big of a shithead?

Chi_archie · 06-03-10, 09:30 AM

I don't think Joyce will change the way he calls anything behind the plate today....

but in the next year or three.... I will be heavy on Detroit (or whomever Galaraga is pitching for) when he pitches and Joyce is behind the plate

thebayareabeast · 06-03-10, 09:32 AM

Originally posted by Fishhead

Nice post

Are you looking for attention or are you really this big of a shithead?

Obviously I went too far and I don't really think he should be decapitated.

Doesn't mean I was wrong about you blowing him when he made one of the worst, stupidest calls in pro sports history.

Fishhead · 06-03-10, 09:32 AM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

I don't think Joyce will change the way he calls anything behind the plate today....

but in the next year or three.... I will be heavy on Detroit (or whomever Galaraga is pitching for) when he pitches and Joyce is behind the plate

Small edge, you're correct.

Deuce · 06-03-10, 09:39 AM

Fishler,

I don't care if Detroit fans throw jelly and eggs, whip him in the ass with milk weeds, never has Detroit had a perfect game tossed and we did and it blew up like Joey getting spindled.

Fishead, NO.

Fishhead · 06-03-10, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by Deuce

Fishler,

I don't care if Detroit fans throw jelly and eggs, whip him in the ass with milk weeds, never has Detroit had a perfect game tossed and we did and it blew up like Joey getting spindled.

Fishead, NO.

Show some class Deuce, it's only a ballgame.

MonkeyF0cker · 06-03-10, 09:43 AM

Jason Donald should have trotted down the first base line like every other major leaguer. Blame him.

Fishhead · 06-03-10, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker

Jason Donald should have trotted down the first base line like every other major leaguer. Blame him.

julio_cat · 06-03-10, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker

Jason Donald should have trotted down the first base line like every other major leaguer. Blame him.

disagree. Remember Braden's game, when a player (Don't remember his name) tried to bunt his way to first base deep in the game just to avoid a perfect game on the opposite team.

Club · 06-03-10, 09:54 AM

I definuitely agree as to Galarraga but not as to joyce. How else could Joyce play it? it wasn't even close so he has to apologize and admit he screwed up. There's absolutely no other way to respond unless you just want to be known as a complete asshole. So, Galarraga gains a lot of respect but Joyce goes down as making one of the all-time worst calls ever and not being a complete asshole but responding as 99% of the human population would, which shouldn't raise his stature at all unless he was in the 1% to begin with.

FreeFall · 06-03-10, 09:55 AM

We're human we all make mistakes.

thebayareabeast · 06-03-10, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by FreeFall

We're human we all make mistakes.

Fishhead · 06-03-10, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by FreeFall

We're human we all make mistakes.

thebayareabeast · 06-03-10, 10:11 AM

Not in that situation we don't.

Holtgetsback · 06-03-10, 10:13 AM

Let's clap for the worst call in Major League History.............

Send Joyce to the ****ing minor leagues..

Kaps · 06-03-10, 10:14 AM

OMG ....just saw all this

much respect to both guys .... i really hope there are no dumb fuks out there who do anything stupid to Joyce.
i really hope that Selig reverses the call today which they are discussing at this time

Holtgetsback · 06-03-10, 10:15 AM

If Gallaraga hits the 27th batter they call him a choke artist.

If Cabrera bobbles the ball and doesn't throw it in time they call him an asshole that didn't care about the perfect game.

Jim Joyce blows the worst call in Major League History and they call him a saint who made a mistake.

Chi_archie · 06-03-10, 10:16 AM

I pray to God that Selig doesn't reverse it...

you can't go around reversing judgement calls, its a slippery slope. they can decide to allow instant replay on one non balls/strike judgement call a game per team.... but they just can't go and outright change an ump's judgement call....... the umps and umpires union would throw a fit as well

thebayareabeast · 06-03-10, 10:28 AM

Nothing will happen to Joyce even though something should.

jjgold · 06-03-10, 10:59 AM

Those calls are blown weekly, this is not a big deal at all. It was a tough call to get right, I would say 30% they get it wrong at first base. The outcome of the game was what mattered, individual awards/records mean nothing.

pavyracer · 06-03-10, 11:05 AM

The umpire should call sick today. JMHO

Swinging Johnson · 06-03-10, 12:00 PM

Jim Joyce, umpire, grace under fire

Jim Joyce blew a monumental call. Did it decide a game? No, but it did scrap any chance of Tiger's pitcher Armando Galarraga completing a perfect game. Now Detroit fans and players are understandably outraged that Joyce got it wrong. I would dare say Indians fans and players are also upset because the call was wrong. Jim Joyce is distraught as well. That's why I am in his corner. Responsibility for one's actions. It's so very rare today. Replay clearly proves the runner was out and it gives Joyce little place to hide. However, that does not preclude Jim Joyce from giving a thousand and one reasons why he erred. Bad angle, obscured foot on the bag, dirty base, or even suggesting the pitcher did not have control of the ball when he caught it to make the put out.

But he did something unusual. He admitted his mistake and made no excuses. He also appeared to feel worse for the pitcher than he did for himself. That is called integrity and I for one am now a Jim Joyce fan.

Holtgetsback · 06-03-10, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by Swinging Johnson

But he did something unusual. He admitted his mistake and made no excuses. He also appeared to feel worse for the pitcher than he did for himself. That is called integrity and I for one am now a Jim Joyce fan.

What else could he have done? Say the replay was wrong?

Wasn't even close..this guy needs glasses and to be sent to the minor leagues.

If Gallaraga walks Jason Donald there he gets called a choker.

If Cabrera throws the ball over Gallaraga's head he gets called a choker and an asshole..sabotaged the perfect game, etc.

Joyce makes the worst call in Major League history and everyone makes him out to be a saint.

I don't care if this guy was a great umpire in the past... if anyone does their job "in the real world" that badly they get fired.

Unicorn7 · 06-03-10, 12:05 PM

yadadada..there is so much negative energy amongst man kind lately that you could practically see an evil liason invade this umpires mind for a split second and call the guy out when he was blatantly safe..it was the devil`s work plain and simple

man must learn to live and love..leaders must learn not to be greedy

stealthyburrito · 06-03-10, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by Holtgetsback

What else could he have done? Say the replay was wrong?

Wasn't even close..this guy needs glasses and to be sent to the minor leagues.

If Gallaraga walks Jason Donald there he gets called a choker.

If Cabrera throws the ball over Gallaraga's head he gets called a choker and an asshole..sabotaged the perfect game, etc.

Joyce makes the worst call in Major League history and everyone makes him out to be a saint.

I don't care if this guy was a great umpire in the past... if anyone does their job "in the real world" that badly they get fired.

i am sure we will see joyce in the playoffs as well, and we will hear about his blown call of epic proportions all throughout october

Swinging Johnson · 06-03-10, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by Holtgetsback

What else could he have done? Say the replay was wrong?

Wasn't even close..this guy needs glasses and to be sent to the minor leagues.

If Gallaraga walks Jason Donald there he gets called a choker.

If Cabrera throws the ball over Gallaraga's head he gets called a choker and an asshole..sabotaged the perfect game, etc.

Joyce makes the worst call in Major League history and everyone makes him out to be a saint.

I don't care if this guy was a great umpire in the past... if anyone does their job "in the real world" that badly they get fired.

Excuses, he could have made excuses as to why he got it wrong not argue that he did in fact get it wrong. People getting fired in the real world for screwing up that badly you say? How many executives from BP have been fired? Oh, I assure you there will be a sacrifical lamb but the big boys will not leave their big paychecks unless forced out for criminal wrong doing.

People make mistakes and blown calls are an unfortunate part of any business. Do they get fired? Should they get fired? No, only unless it is a chronic problem. If your contention is he shouldn't have made this mistake because it was such an important call then that would logically suggest umpires have control over all blown calls. The fact is a bad call can happen anywhere and at any time. I would further argue that the reason he made this error is because he was so intent on getting it right and not maintaining a bias against the hitter. Good intentions, bad results.