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  • Fiasco
    SBR MVP
    • 11-02-08
    • 2406

    #1
    June 1 is almost here.
    Anyone making any last deposits/re-ups or withdrawals (or even worried about June 1 at all)?

    I withdrew my poker stars money a few days ago but am letting the sports money ride (small amount in accounts and wouldn't be withdrawing soon anyways). Poker Players seem to be more aware or informed about June 1, I haven't heard anything mentioned or at least not recently here really. At 2+2 though, it's a hot topic.


    I here that withdrawals should be alright after June 1 but deposits may become a potentially LARGE problem (they already make it hard ). True if you win you don't need to deposit, but there are other reasons to deposit sometimes

    I'm still deciding if I want to put in a little more sports money one last time before the potential end of the world on June 1


    I know most here probably aren't worried or think that the law will have little to know impact but I seem to think it'll at least delay things for a while until new methods inevitable become available. I also here Full Tilt and some of the top poker sites are now getting looked into by the DOJ.




    Should be an interesting next few months.
  • Chi_archie
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-22-08
    • 63172

    #2
    good question haven't thought much about it.... would like to know from the SBR if the sponsors have given any detailed info on this regarding US customers
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    • Brock Landers
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 06-30-08
      • 45359

      #3
      Kyl Determined to See UIGEA Implemented at all Costs

      Written by Roger S | Tuesday, May 25th, 2010
      It seems that Senator Jon Kyl will stop at nothing to ensure that the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act gets implemented next week. Not even a face to face request from his former colleague Alfonse D’Amato was enough to sway his opinion that the game of poker should also be incorporated into the bill when it comes into effect on June 1st.
      D’Amato is a former Senator and now acts as chairman of the powerful Poker Players Alliance. He believed that it was worth the effort asking to meet Kyl on the eve of the UIGEA’s implementation for a number of reasons. Firstly, the fact that he also once served in politics led him to believe that Kyl would take his request seriously. Secondly, the PPA, while a grassroots organization, has the support over one million poker players from around the country and therefore carries some clout. And finally, since the support of online poker is obviously growing, D’Amato believed that Kyl would consider this by removing the game from the UIGEA legislation.
      However, Kyl’s seems more determined than ever to see his baby grow and flatly turned down the PPA’s request.
      “It does not seem that Senator Kyl is willing to accept even an exemption for peer to peer in it,” said the Executive Director of the PPA, John Pappas. “He wants to see the law finalized.”
      The PPA, in the meantime, is forging away in its efforts to get legislation passed that will spell an end to the UIGEA and hopefully the beginning of a legalized, regulated poker and gambling environment in the United Sates.
      “Honestly, I think the silver lining here is, come June 1 when the law is finalized, those who would say the UIGEA is going to stop Internet gaming will be proven wrong,” Pappas said. “I think that adds more credence to our argument that alternatives have failed and now is the time to do what is right to license and regulate the industry.”
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      • SportsAddict
        Restricted User
        • 05-18-10
        • 250

        #4
        June 1st is my birthday!! Whats going on with June 1st and U.S. law?
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        • Deuce
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 01-12-08
          • 29843

          #5
          This cock sucking mother fukking assholes should worry about the fukking oil spill, or the fukking troops overseas or the fukking dow plummeting, no lets worry about gamblers. Fukking nonsensical bullshit.
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          • Grandmaster B
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 09-05-09
            • 6035

            #6
            Im not doing no more ** or ** transactions until I hear from someone exactly what this law means
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            • Fiasco
              SBR MVP
              • 11-02-08
              • 2406

              #7


              from 2+2, from PPA. Directed towards the Poker Player, but I'm guessing it can apply to everyone who bets online.

              I just don't see how they can be confident withdrawals wont be effected... it'll target payout processors too I would think...
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              • Deuce
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 01-12-08
                • 29843

                #8
                This just means more money for locals.
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                • Brock Landers
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 06-30-08
                  • 45359

                  #9
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                  • SportsAddict
                    Restricted User
                    • 05-18-10
                    • 250

                    #10
                    So no more sport betting on bodog?
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                    • illfuuptn
                      SBR MVP
                      • 03-17-10
                      • 1860

                      #11
                      What exactly is happening June 1st? BTW if gambling gets legalized we're straight fukked! What is it in france? 7.5% of all wagers? Impossible to win which is bad if you're a winner. And losers will lose WAYYYYYYYYY more!
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                      • vegasplays
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 04-27-10
                        • 130

                        #12
                        i've got all my withdrawls back
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                        • Grandmaster B
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 09-05-09
                          • 6035

                          #13
                          Originally posted by vegasplays
                          i've got all my withdrawls back
                          Im going to assume any deposits made there will be a record of names kept

                          you could use a different name to deposit...but if something goes wrong ** or ** wont give your deposit back without a id to match the name you sent with

                          more trips to Nevada for me I guess
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                          • flyingillini
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 12-06-06
                            • 41219

                            #14
                            I have to pay my quarterly taxes.
                            המוסד‎
                            המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                            • SportsAddict
                              Restricted User
                              • 05-18-10
                              • 250

                              #15
                              So whats the verdict? No bodog in Florida?
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                              • SportsAddict
                                Restricted User
                                • 05-18-10
                                • 250

                                #16
                                shitting blocks here haha
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                                • SportsAddict
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 05-18-10
                                  • 250

                                  #17
                                  my birthday is going to suck this year if someone tells me im not going to be able to bet sports anymore
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                                  • Fiasco
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 11-02-08
                                    • 2406

                                    #18
                                    Where are you getting no more sports betting on Bodog?
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                                    • cankid
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 08-22-08
                                      • 7243

                                      #19
                                      doesnt look good
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                                      • SportsAddict
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 05-18-10
                                        • 250

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Fiasco
                                        Where are you getting no more sports betting on Bodog?
                                        my imagination, im just following the path yall are setting here. June 1st (to yall) equals DDAY for gambling websites. Bodog is a gambling website so I imagine that it means i wont be able to play at bodog as easily anymore which makes it not worth it to me at all
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                                        • vitalogist
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-11-08
                                          • 2820

                                          #21
                                          such bullsh*t. is this a real concern?
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                                          • Fiasco
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 11-02-08
                                            • 2406

                                            #22
                                            June 1st puts to action a bill that was passed in 2006. It doesn't target the player, but rather the means by which the financial transactions occur, and makes it illegal for banks to do gambling related business with clients (knowingly.)

                                            Essentially, it COULD change things as we know it, but that's already happened before, and people (2+2) seem to believe that it will have little effect to the actual gambling. It doesn't make anything that you're doing now illegal necessarily.

                                            The video, and many suggest, that it won't have an effect on withdrawals, and are unsure of what will happen with regards to Deposits. The Department of Justice is after blood with regards to gambling, and will prosecute/go after payment processors if that information is available, but the UIGEA (which goes into action june 1) doesn't address withdrawals.

                                            All I hear about the UIGEA relates to Poker essentially, but Sports aren't exempt, which is why I figured I'd address the issue.

                                            There just isn't a PPA for sports gamblers and it's viewed as a non-skilled game, which I believe is false. It takes a skill to win... But that's besides the point.


                                            I'm very interested in what things will be like July 1st. I imagine things will be the same, but I went ahead and successfully withdrew my poker stars money via e-check so I wouldn't have to address a new withdrawal method or delay. I'll be monitoring the situation and will re-deposit after the summer probably when and if things are ironed out.

                                            I play poker and bet sports for fun, therefore I don't believe I have too much to worry about in regards to this matter.

                                            But it is an interesting subject, especially regarding the online gaming industry.
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                                            • Fiasco
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 11-02-08
                                              • 2406

                                              #23
                                              Nothing NEW is happening June first, other than the fact that this law 100% OFFICIALLY goes into act and will be enforced.

                                              These are concerns that have been around since 2006 when it was initially passed, It was supposed to go into act December 1, 2009, and got delayed 6 months until June 1, 2010.

                                              No need to panic, but something to be aware of.
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                                              • Doug
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 08-10-05
                                                • 6324

                                                #24
                                                IMO, this is the time to only play at the biggest and best books, as volume will drop off, as players bust out, and won't be able to re-up. MANY won't even be aware of this for months.

                                                Get out of small places like Justbet, Beted, Wagerweb etc. Only use the likes of Greek, Betjam,5D, Bookmaker, etc.

                                                The big books will survive ( downsized), the small books will fold.

                                                I can see MOST (US) books gone in 6 months. Way too many books exist, and they will get squeezed out.

                                                I hope I'm wrong, but I really see many players NEVER making another deposit, once they try next time.

                                                I made a similar thread about a day ago.
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                                                • Fiasco
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 11-02-08
                                                  • 2406

                                                  #25
                                                  I did a quick search for June 1 and missed it Doug.

                                                  I agree though in keeping money in only the best books now.

                                                  I hope things don't change too much and with it hitting in June, I'm sure most gamblers aren't even looking to deposit until August/September.
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                                                  • durito
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 07-03-06
                                                    • 13173

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Grandmaster B
                                                    Im not doing no more ** or ** transactions until I hear from someone exactly what this law means
                                                    good luck with that
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                                                    • Doug
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 08-10-05
                                                      • 6324

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Fiasco
                                                      I did a quick search for June 1 and missed it Doug.

                                                      I agree though in keeping money in only the best books now.

                                                      I hope things don't change too much and with it hitting in June, I'm sure most gamblers aren't even looking to deposit until August/September.
                                                      Yes, many don't bet baseball, and would be expecting that **/ ** would be there in the fall.

                                                      If a lot of players can't fund their books, then there don't need to be so many books. A SHIT economy doesn't help either.

                                                      Forums will surely take a hit, too. Imagine trying to live as a Mod !
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                                                      • MBENZ
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 01-07-07
                                                        • 5238

                                                        #28
                                                        Making a mountain out of a molehill,the sky is not falling.
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                                                        • Holtgetsback
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-04-10
                                                          • 4655

                                                          #29
                                                          I don't think it's a big deal

                                                          They can't regulate Costa Rica
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388179

                                                            #30
                                                            June 1st has never been a problem before so not going to be now

                                                            This is not 7 fukkin years ago

                                                            Play at good books and no worries
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                                                            • Scorpion
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 09-04-05
                                                              • 7797

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Doug

                                                              I hope I'm wrong, but I really see many players NEVER making another deposit, once they try next time.

                                                              I made a similar thread about a day ago.
                                                              and why do u say that? any good reasons?
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                                                              • Brock Landers
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 06-30-08
                                                                • 45359

                                                                #32
                                                                When that BS passed in 2006, neteller and Pinnacle fell within weeks of each other (well a couple of months later), so june 1st means nothing..its the reaction down the road.

                                                                Tell me HOW they will ever stop a fed ex Cashiers check as a deposit. Not possible.
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                                                                • JohnGalt2341
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 12-31-09
                                                                  • 9138

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Deuce
                                                                  This cock sucking mother fukking assholes should worry about the fukking oil spill, or the fukking troops overseas or the fukking dow plummeting, no lets worry about gamblers. Fukking nonsensical bullshit.
                                                                  I couldn't have said it better myself. Although I might have used fukk a few more times.
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                                                                  • Scorpion
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 09-04-05
                                                                    • 7797

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                                                    When that BS passed in 2006, neteller and Pinnacle fell within weeks of each other (well a couple of months later), so june 1st means nothing..its the reaction down the road.

                                                                    Tell me HOW they will ever stop a fed ex Cashiers check as a deposit. Not possible.
                                                                    some banks wont even charge you for a cashiers check if you have an account
                                                                    One problem I had last yr was when I went to washington mutual to get a cashiers check I was told I must deposit the amount into my checking account and then they can withdraw from my account and issue a cashiers check, before I would give them cash and they would me a cashiers check
                                                                    I wonder how credit unions do this now.
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                                                                    • Fiasco
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 11-02-08
                                                                      • 2406

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                                                      When that BS passed in 2006, neteller and Pinnacle fell within weeks of each other (well a couple of months later), so june 1st means nothing..its the reaction down the road.

                                                                      Tell me HOW they will ever stop a fed ex Cashiers check as a deposit. Not possible.
                                                                      June 1st does mean something...

                                                                      What it means is unknown by everyone... but to say it means nothing is silly... this is 2006 going into ACTION now.

                                                                      And They will never be able to stop online gaming, at least not with current legislation.


                                                                      It's a bit of a waiting game, but I have set it so there will be no need for deposits or withdrawals until we see the true effects of it going into action. (for me)

                                                                      I hope you're right and it really means NOTHING but I have a feeling it will have an effect, even if minuscule. Luckily, we're already used to it because banks have been preparing and prohibiting transactions for a while now. After June 1 though, it's a crime for them to, so they will probably be even stricter.
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