Tim Donaghy Interview with SBR.tv

Wrigley · 05-25-10, 02:25 PM

Nice job Peter

SBR Lou · 05-25-10, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by sharpcat

This guy is a piece of shit on every level, just think of all of the people who made solid bets on games just to have this piece of shit screw them out of a good bet

Did you listen to the whole interview? I think he's credible when he says he didn't personally alter his foul-calling based on his bets; other refs (him too I'm sure) altered their play-calling at the behest of the NBA, personal biases, etc. Knowing what he did and feeling like he already had an advantage of 3-4 points, why would he need to take it a step further with the whistle? Doing so would surely raise suspicion.

cruyff · 05-25-10, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by big joe 1212

why don't we get him to be the guest speaker at the bash?

because he wouldn't make it out alive, the amount of hatred people here have for referees

Scorpion · 05-25-10, 02:29 PM

can u interview the epic beard man?

brooks85 · 05-25-10, 02:33 PM

i gotta say, i am impressed, good watch

but i would be much impressed with the epic beard guy

bring dem amberlamps

sharpcat · 05-25-10, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by Lou

Did you listen to the whole interview? I think he's credible when he says he didn't personally alter his foul-calling based on his bets; other refs (him too I'm sure) altered their play-calling at the behest of the NBA, personal biases, etc. Knowing what he did and feeling like he already had an advantage of 3-4 points, why would he need to take it a step further with the whistle? Doing so would surely raise suspicion.

This may be true, but I don't care who you are if you bet money on a game you are reffin' whether you intend to or not you are going to subconsciously make calls in your favor. The only way to honestly say you did not make unfair calls in a game you bet on is to not bet on games that you ref.

I am sure he had an edge regardless due to his inside knowledge of the game but betting on games you ref is a dishonest and unfair advantage.

suicidekings · 05-25-10, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by sharpcat

Holy cow!!! the guy was hitting at an 80% rate including picks on games that he ref'd in

Wow did he really go 13-1 I have never heard of anybody other than the great Brandon Lang going 13-1

This guy is a piece of shit on every level, just think of all of the people who made solid bets on games just to have this piece of shit screw them out of a good bet

But an interesting story. The greatest scrutiny on NBA refs ever to call a fair game comes this year and simultaneously there are more lopsided series in the playoffs than ever before... Coincidence?

SBR Lou · 05-25-10, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by sharpcat

This may be true, but I don't care who you are if you bet money on a game you are reffin' whether you intend to or not you are going to subconsciously make calls in your favor. The only way to honestly say you did not make unfair calls in a game you bet on is to not bet on games that you ref. I am sure he had an edge regardless due to his inside knowledge of the game but betting on games you ref is a dishonest and unfair advantage.

Fair point.

sharpcat · 05-25-10, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by suicidekings

But an interesting story. The greatest scrutiny on NBA refs ever to call a fair game comes this year and simultaneously there are more lopsided series in the playoffs than ever before... Coincidence?

Definately interesting, it is clearly obvious that some players are more likely to get calls in their favor and that home teams are awarded the same luxury.

How many of theses calls are due to subconscious decisions or favoritism by refs? and how many are requested by league higher ups?

Interesting or not the guy is still a lowlife

Brock Landers · 05-25-10, 04:37 PM

he's a true degenerate...working at a gambling addiction place, and still picking games and going on SBR to do interviews.

One of the true GAMBLAS if there every was one. May be a 2nd cousin of "Sick Gambler"

beanbag · 05-25-10, 04:40 PM

great work!

ShamsWoof10 · 05-25-10, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by btraband

he likes to hear himself talk and believes himself too

What's he "supposed" to believe..?

He mentioned in his book how the Cavs got screwed in the 07' FINALS... I never said having games fixed is a bad thing LOL...

BYE BYE QUEEN JAMES...

Patrickz0rs · 05-25-10, 05:00 PM

If you are an active NBA sports gambler and honestly 100% believe that the referees do not control the outcome of the game, you need to go to therapy.

jjgold · 05-25-10, 05:38 PM

Impressive Loshak

One of your best interviews ever

Sawsi · 05-25-10, 05:44 PM

Wow, didn't see that coming.

BeatTheJerk · 05-25-10, 06:10 PM

Lostache seemed extremely nervous while asking his questions.

ShamsWoof10 · 05-25-10, 06:35 PM

The guy interviewing is a total tool and the interview itself was USELESS!!!

The book, on the other hand, provides some detail that is very interesting and it's worth reading...

dice · 05-25-10, 07:08 PM

Great interview Loshak!!!!!

will2survive · 05-25-10, 07:32 PM

Donaghy is a crook-he looks cold blooded

will2survive · 05-25-10, 07:46 PM

he's a bum

Scorpion · 05-25-10, 08:30 PM

TOO MANY RULE changes in the last 2-3 years in the NBA and NFL to increase scoring, the problems is the refs call too many fouls now, too many FTs in the NBA , fans dont go to the games to watch the players shoot 90+ FTs, too many personal fouls in the NFL, its easier now to fix games because of all the rule changes

THEGREAT30 · 05-25-10, 09:07 PM

is this legit? truism

Extra Innings · 05-25-10, 09:42 PM

Good Bye SBR

flyingillini · 05-25-10, 10:12 PM

For 100 points I will reveal who Donaghy's posting name is. He has been amongst us for a nice amount of time now.

Brock Landers · 05-25-10, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by flyingillini

For 100 points I will reveal who Donaghy's posting name is. He has been amongst us for a nice amount of time now.

wow...very interesting. How the fuk would you know?!

Brock Landers · 05-25-10, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by Extra Innings

Good Bye SBR

flyingillini · 05-25-10, 10:17 PM

Originally posted by Brock Landers

wow...very interesting. How the fuk would you know?!

Brock, you would be shocked what I know and who I really am.

Brock Landers · 05-25-10, 10:17 PM

Originally posted by flyingillini

Brock, you would be shocked what I know and who I really am.

i sure would LOL

dooman14 · 05-25-10, 11:07 PM

titled the fix is on eh

HUSALAH · 05-25-10, 11:45 PM

if that is the real ref u shoulda asked him how he feels about those who bet against him in these games he supposedly didnt have a biased opinion in. Guy deserves to be disappeared.

Extra Innings · 05-25-10, 11:52 PM

A lot of hate here

36mafia · 05-26-10, 01:27 AM

this is what separates sbr from everybody else

JerseyShop101 · 05-26-10, 01:32 AM

Originally posted by flyingillini

For 100 points I will reveal who Donaghy's posting name is. He has been amongst us for a nice amount of time now.

No wonder the guy has had a great NBA record. Technically, he cheated on the SBR NBA contests then.

anjaru · 05-26-10, 03:42 AM

How about asking if he thinks that players are in on the fix? I would think that'd be the most important question of all.

cleaveland · 05-26-10, 04:29 AM

Can someone explain to me how the following quote from Tim Donaghy's book wouldn't directly affect the number of points scored in the game? I wonder if the ref who instigated the "first foul of the game" game wasn't betting on the under? That game would set the tone toward the under every time and as all know games that start off with a low scoring first few minutes tend to stay low scoring the whole game... Who wouldn't bet the under if they knew the "first foul of the game" game was gonna be played?

Does anyone really believe Donaghy wouldn't have bet the under if he knew the "first foul of the game" game was gonna be played? I say he would have FOR SURE!!!!... He said in the interview that he was betting based on a 4 or 5 point advantage and this game could give you a much bigger advantage than that on the total.

The technical foul game would give you a slight advantage on the first half over/under, first half ATS, and game ATS as well.

To have a little fun at the expense of the worst troublemakers, the referees working the game would sometimes make a modest friendly wager amongst themselves: first ref to give one of the bad boys a technical foul wouldn't have to tip the ball boy that night. In the NBA, ball boys set up the referees' locker room and keep it stocked with food and beer for the postgame meal. We usually ran the kid ragged with a variety of personal requests and then slipped him a $20 bill. Technically, the winner of the bet won twice — he didn't have to pay the kid and he got to call a T on Mr. Foul-Mouthed Big-Shot Du Jour.

After the opening tip, it was hilarious as the three of us immediately focused our full attention on the intended victim, waiting for something, anything, to justify a technical foul. If the guy so much as looked at one of us and mumbled, we rang him up. Later in the referees' locker room, we would down a couple of brews, eat some chicken wings, and laugh like hell.

We had another variation of this gag simply referred to as the "first foul of the game" bet. While still in the locker room before tip-off, we would make a wager on which of us would call the game's first foul. That referee would either have to pay the ball boy or pick up the dinner tab for the other two referees. Sometimes, the ante would be $50 a guy. Like the technical foul bet, it was hilarious — only this time we were testing each other's nerves to see who had the guts to hold out the longest before calling a personal foul. There were occasions when we would hold back for two or three minutes — an eternity in an NBA game — before blowing the whistle. It didn't matter if bodies were flying all over the place; no fouls were called because no one wanted to lose the bet.

We played this little game during the regular season and summer league. After a game, all three refs would gather around the VCR and watch a replay of the game. Early in the contest, the announcers would say, "Holy cow! They're really letting them play tonight!" If they only knew...

During one particular summer game, Duke Callahan, Mark Wunderlich, and I made it to the three-minute mark in the first quarter without calling a foul. We were running up and down the court, laughing our asses off as the players got hammered with no whistles. The players were exhausted from the nonstop running when Callahan finally called the first foul because Mikki Moore of the New Jersey Nets literally tackled an opposing player right in front of him. Too bad for Callahan — he lost the bet.

I became so good at this game that if an obvious foul was committed right in front of me, I would call a travel or a three-second violation instead. Those violations are not personal fouls, so I was still in the running to win the bet. The players would look at me with disbelief on their faces as if to say, "What the hell was that?"