Miller had a few clutch games against Knicks and everyone thought he was all world
Allen does it every year like 10x a year for the last 12 years
Chi_archie
SBR Aristocracy
07-22-08
63172
#2
its amazing how close they are in career #'s..... Allen should surpass miller as the all time most 3 point fg's made leader next year i think
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Tree Rollins
SBR MVP
12-16-09
3968
#3
You could definitely make the argument that ray is better. Not 10x better though.
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388179
#4
I think Allen hit a lot more clutch shots in big games though
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Tree Rollins
SBR MVP
12-16-09
3968
#5
Originally posted by jjgold
I think Allen hit a lot more clutch shots in big games though
What clutch shots and in what games?
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Chi_archie
SBR Aristocracy
07-22-08
63172
#6
in fairness, i think Allen has had better teamates, Reggie WAS the team.... well rick smits helped a bit
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Holtgetsback
SBR MVP
01-04-10
4655
#7
Originally posted by Tree Rollins
What clutch shots and in what games?
The whole Bulls series last year could be JJGOLD'S argument and he would still have a strong case.
He Got Game
Reggie never had 1/10th of the team Ray has now though
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Mr Windy City
Restricted User
12-27-09
5018
#8
He might be better than Reggie, but I dont know about 10x, JJ.....Might be a bit of a stretch
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Tree Rollins
SBR MVP
12-16-09
3968
#9
Originally posted by Holtgetsback
The whole Bulls series last year could be JJGOLD'S argument and he would still have a strong case.
He Got Game
Reggie never had 1/10th of the team Ray has now though
Yeah but that's a first round series against an 8 seed and Ray Allen was the 3rd or 4th best player on the team. Will people remember those shots 10 years from now?
I might remember that series in 10 years, but not Ray Allen's shots.
I'm not saying Ray is better or Reggie is better. I'm just curious about JJGold's reasoning.
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jlgarciaiii22
SBR MVP
04-14-08
1792
#10
Allen is Solid... Miller was a pu$$y...
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Holtgetsback
SBR MVP
01-04-10
4655
#11
Originally posted by Tree Rollins
Yeah but that's a first round series against an 8 seed and Ray Allen was the 3rd or 4th best player on the team. Will people remember those shots 10 years from now?
I might remember that series in 10 years, but not Ray Allen's shots.
I'm not saying Ray is better or Reggie is better. I'm just curious about JJGold's reasoning.
I think it will go down as a top 3 series of all time...
Incredible series really. Every game was edge of the seat. What were there like 7 overtimes throughout?
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Chugs
SBR MVP
11-01-09
1560
#12
False.
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mtneer1212
SBR MVP
06-22-08
4993
#13
Sorry coach --- not with you on this one. Miller was the whole team -- Allen has Garnett -- Miller has Rik Smits.
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Andy117
SBR Hall of Famer
02-07-10
9511
#14
Reggie Miller was awesome.
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Tree Rollins
SBR MVP
12-16-09
3968
#15
Originally posted by Holtgetsback
I think it will go down as a top 3 series of all time...
Incredible series really. Every game was edge of the seat. What were there like 7 overtimes throughout?
I freakin love that series.
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SBR_John
SBR Posting Legend
07-12-05
16471
#16
I think Reggie was a better player and leader on a team that was not loaded. Ray made some great 3's tonight though.
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tltaylor89
SBR Posting Legend
06-19-09
19610
#17
Millers is 1x better than Allen
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smitch124
SBR Posting Legend
05-19-08
12566
#18
Hyperbole alert!!
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stealthyburrito
SBR Posting Legend
05-12-09
21562
#19
ray is definitely the better player, but not by much. both are very clutch shooters though.
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bigbank
SBR Sharp
12-19-09
464
#20
10x, can I have some of whatever it is your smoking.
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HenPrivilege
SBR MVP
01-10-09
1720
#21
Damn soon do we forget what era Reggie Miller played in. No one was getting by the Pistons and the Bulls.
The only comparison is that they have similar games. You can even compare Rip Hamilton. These guys love motion offense coming around screens for jumpers.
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kisado
SBR Wise Guy
09-09-08
519
#22
It would be arguable as to who was greater. Both were clutch, but Miller was easily more clutch. Ray will have bigger career numbers, but the context was a bit different IMO. No doubt, Reggie went up against tougher, more physical teams during an era where NBA was more of a sport and less of this WWE type entertainment wherein, the superstars get cradled like babies.
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hoopster42
Restricted User
02-12-08
6099
#23
Originally posted by Chi_archie
in fairness, i think Allen has had better teamates, Reggie WAS the team.... well rick smits helped a bit
yes
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lakerboy
SBR Aristocracy
04-02-09
94379
#24
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tealish
SBR MVP
02-02-10
3386
#25
Ray Allen > Miller in terms of the basketball talent and skill.
Miller's legacy,career,big moments >> Ray Allen's (even if Ray has the ring(s?))
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VTranX
SBR MVP
02-02-10
1975
#26
they call him "mr clutch" or a reason.
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Goat Milk
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
03-24-10
25850
#27
Originally posted by tealish
Ray Allen > Miller in terms of the basketball talent and skill.
Miller's legacy,career,big moments >> Ray Allen's (even if Ray has the ring(s?))
This.
But Ray Allen has had huge moments and will go down as a much better player than Miller. Who is a better pure shooter is a different story, Ray is the much better player.
Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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Cuse0323
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
12-09-09
30169
#28
Originally posted by tealish
Ray Allen > Miller in terms of the basketball talent and skill.
Miller's legacy,career,big moments >> Ray Allen's (even if Ray has the ring(s?))
Agreed, Ray is a better overall player but Reggie was clutch and carried his teams while Ray doesn't have to.
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kobefanatic
SBR Hall of Famer
01-19-10
9013
#29
what's up with all of this players comparison?
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andywend
SBR MVP
05-20-07
4805
#30
Why do people even care at all about these players especially to the point about comparing them and getting into a full blown argument about who is better?
In my opinion, the best player of ALL TIME is Rajan Rondo as he has played way better than expected against the Cavs and the Magic. He is the most responsible for the Celtics beating the Cavs which led to the cashing of my Celtics +700 series ticket and hopefully my Celtics +2000 Eastern conference ticket.
RAJAN RONDO, THE BEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME!!!!
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brandonlang
SBR High Roller
12-02-09
135
#31
miller was the man back in the day
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podunk
SBR MVP
11-12-09
3455
#32
allen never silenced the knicks
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IndyJonezy
SBR Hustler
05-13-10
87
#33
I don't know... Miller pulled off some amazing games here in Indy. But i am bias so oh well