Ray Allen Is 10x The Player Reggie Miller Was

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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    Ray Allen Is 10x The Player Reggie Miller Was
    Miller had a few clutch games against Knicks and everyone thought he was all world

    Allen does it every year like 10x a year for the last 12 years
  • Chi_archie
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-22-08
    • 63172

    #2
    its amazing how close they are in career #'s..... Allen should surpass miller as the all time most 3 point fg's made leader next year i think
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    • Tree Rollins
      SBR MVP
      • 12-16-09
      • 3968

      #3
      You could definitely make the argument that ray is better. Not 10x better though.
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #4
        I think Allen hit a lot more clutch shots in big games though
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        • Tree Rollins
          SBR MVP
          • 12-16-09
          • 3968

          #5
          Originally posted by jjgold
          I think Allen hit a lot more clutch shots in big games though
          What clutch shots and in what games?
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          • Chi_archie
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-22-08
            • 63172

            #6
            in fairness, i think Allen has had better teamates, Reggie WAS the team.... well rick smits helped a bit
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            • Holtgetsback
              SBR MVP
              • 01-04-10
              • 4655

              #7
              Originally posted by Tree Rollins
              What clutch shots and in what games?
              The whole Bulls series last year could be JJGOLD'S argument and he would still have a strong case.

              He Got Game


              Reggie never had 1/10th of the team Ray has now though
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              • Mr Windy City
                Restricted User
                • 12-27-09
                • 5018

                #8
                He might be better than Reggie, but I dont know about 10x, JJ.....Might be a bit of a stretch
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                • Tree Rollins
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-16-09
                  • 3968

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Holtgetsback

                  The whole Bulls series last year could be JJGOLD'S argument and he would still have a strong case.

                  He Got Game


                  Reggie never had 1/10th of the team Ray has now though

                  Yeah but that's a first round series against an 8 seed and Ray Allen was the 3rd or 4th best player on the team. Will people remember those shots 10 years from now?

                  I might remember that series in 10 years, but not Ray Allen's shots.

                  I'm not saying Ray is better or Reggie is better. I'm just curious about JJGold's reasoning.
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                  • jlgarciaiii22
                    SBR MVP
                    • 04-14-08
                    • 1792

                    #10
                    Allen is Solid... Miller was a pu$$y...
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                    • Holtgetsback
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-04-10
                      • 4655

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Tree Rollins
                      Yeah but that's a first round series against an 8 seed and Ray Allen was the 3rd or 4th best player on the team. Will people remember those shots 10 years from now?

                      I might remember that series in 10 years, but not Ray Allen's shots.

                      I'm not saying Ray is better or Reggie is better. I'm just curious about JJGold's reasoning.

                      I think it will go down as a top 3 series of all time...

                      Incredible series really. Every game was edge of the seat. What were there like 7 overtimes throughout?
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                      • Chugs
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-01-09
                        • 1560

                        #12
                        False.
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                        • mtneer1212
                          SBR MVP
                          • 06-22-08
                          • 4993

                          #13
                          Sorry coach --- not with you on this one. Miller was the whole team -- Allen has Garnett -- Miller has Rik Smits.
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                          • Andy117
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 02-07-10
                            • 9511

                            #14
                            Reggie Miller was awesome.
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                            • Tree Rollins
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-16-09
                              • 3968

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Holtgetsback


                              I think it will go down as a top 3 series of all time...

                              Incredible series really. Every game was edge of the seat. What were there like 7 overtimes throughout?
                              I freakin love that series.
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                              • SBR_John
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 07-12-05
                                • 16471

                                #16
                                I think Reggie was a better player and leader on a team that was not loaded. Ray made some great 3's tonight though.
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                                • tltaylor89
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 06-19-09
                                  • 19610

                                  #17
                                  Millers is 1x better than Allen
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                                  • smitch124
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 05-19-08
                                    • 12566

                                    #18
                                    Hyperbole alert!!
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                                    • stealthyburrito
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 05-12-09
                                      • 21562

                                      #19
                                      ray is definitely the better player, but not by much. both are very clutch shooters though.
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                                      • bigbank
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 12-19-09
                                        • 464

                                        #20
                                        10x, can I have some of whatever it is your smoking.
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                                        • HenPrivilege
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-10-09
                                          • 1720

                                          #21
                                          Damn soon do we forget what era Reggie Miller played in. No one was getting by the Pistons and the Bulls.

                                          The only comparison is that they have similar games. You can even compare Rip Hamilton. These guys love motion offense coming around screens for jumpers.
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                                          • kisado
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 09-09-08
                                            • 519

                                            #22
                                            It would be arguable as to who was greater. Both were clutch, but Miller was easily more clutch. Ray will have bigger career numbers, but the context was a bit different IMO. No doubt, Reggie went up against tougher, more physical teams during an era where NBA was more of a sport and less of this WWE type entertainment wherein, the superstars get cradled like babies.
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                                            • hoopster42
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 02-12-08
                                              • 6099

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                              in fairness, i think Allen has had better teamates, Reggie WAS the team.... well rick smits helped a bit
                                              yes
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                                              • lakerboy
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 04-02-09
                                                • 94379

                                                #24
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                                                • tealish
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-02-10
                                                  • 3386

                                                  #25
                                                  Ray Allen > Miller in terms of the basketball talent and skill.
                                                  Miller's legacy,career,big moments >> Ray Allen's (even if Ray has the ring(s?))
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                                                  • VTranX
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-02-10
                                                    • 1975

                                                    #26
                                                    they call him "mr clutch" or a reason.
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                                                    • Goat Milk
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 03-24-10
                                                      • 25850

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by tealish
                                                      Ray Allen > Miller in terms of the basketball talent and skill.
                                                      Miller's legacy,career,big moments >> Ray Allen's (even if Ray has the ring(s?))
                                                      This.

                                                      But Ray Allen has had huge moments and will go down as a much better player than Miller. Who is a better pure shooter is a different story, Ray is the much better player.
                                                      Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                      • Cuse0323
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 12-09-09
                                                        • 30169

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by tealish
                                                        Ray Allen > Miller in terms of the basketball talent and skill.
                                                        Miller's legacy,career,big moments >> Ray Allen's (even if Ray has the ring(s?))
                                                        Agreed, Ray is a better overall player but Reggie was clutch and carried his teams while Ray doesn't have to.
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                                                        • kobefanatic
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 01-19-10
                                                          • 9013

                                                          #29
                                                          what's up with all of this players comparison?
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                                                          • andywend
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 05-20-07
                                                            • 4805

                                                            #30
                                                            Why do people even care at all about these players especially to the point about comparing them and getting into a full blown argument about who is better?

                                                            In my opinion, the best player of ALL TIME is Rajan Rondo as he has played way better than expected against the Cavs and the Magic. He is the most responsible for the Celtics beating the Cavs which led to the cashing of my Celtics +700 series ticket and hopefully my Celtics +2000 Eastern conference ticket.

                                                            RAJAN RONDO, THE BEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME!!!!
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                                                            • brandonlang
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 12-02-09
                                                              • 135

                                                              #31
                                                              miller was the man back in the day
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                                                              • podunk
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 11-12-09
                                                                • 3455

                                                                #32
                                                                allen never silenced the knicks
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                                                                • IndyJonezy
                                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                                  • 05-13-10
                                                                  • 87

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I don't know... Miller pulled off some amazing games here in Indy. But i am bias so oh well
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                                                                  • Snowball
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 11-15-09
                                                                    • 30064

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Ray is better. truism.
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                                                                    • sideline36
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 11-01-09
                                                                      • 215

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Ray is better in paint and at defense!
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