students sent home for wearing American flag T-shirts

[losturmarbles]

If they are wearing the flags on May 5th and never have worn them before its a clear affront to the Hispanic community on their (perceived or real) day, its just not necessary. If that type of clothing is allowed, wear the American flag all you want the next day and every day.

not necessary???

yeah 1st amendment rights... i guess if they offend someone, then they're "just not necessary"

[keyboarding]

By stopping the illegals from entering this country, you give more work to those who are here legally.

Yeah, because illegals are taking all those high demand jobs so many Americans dream of having.

[BigdaddyQH]

If they are wearing the flags on May 5th and never have worn them before its a clear affront to the Hispanic community on their (perceived or real) day, its just not necessary. If that type of clothing is allowed, wear the American flag all you want the next day and every day.

First of all, the 1st amendment gives them the right to wear the shirts anytime they choose. Secondly, who gives a crap about affronting the Hispanic Community. Hispanics piss many Americans off everyday, and could care less. If the Hispanic Community thinks that they deserve to get more consideration than other American Communities, then they can shove it up their asses. They get just as much consideration as any other community. No more. These crybabies had better learn that they are not the #1 concern of Americans. And they had better learn that we will not put up with their Bull S**t about illegals. If I catch some Hispanic hiding an illegal, their tails go directly to jail without passing "GO" and without collecting $200.00.

[Naz18]

Illegal immigrants are not eligible to receive any welfare benefits...also these dumb hicks can't even get the stereotypes right...illegal immigrants from Mexico come to the US for work...not to freeload...of course that still is no excuse for them since it is against the law.

[BatemanPatrickl]

Did Mexicans fight in the British or American Civil War? How about the Cubans? Maybe Puerto Ricans?

[losturmarbles]

Illegal immigrants are not eligible to receive any welfare benefits...

their kids are.

[smitch124]

Secondly, who gives a crap about affronting the Hispanic Community.

Me. A community full of great people and the hardest workers you will find anywhere.

[smitch124]

not necessary???

yeah 1st amendment rights... i guess if they offend someone, then they're "just not necessary"

Just cause you have the "right" to do something that doesn't make it right. Plus, kids in school have 1st amendment rights taken from them all the time, this is an odd place to make a stand for them.

[donjuan]

This is where you Liberal fools miss the point. If Mexicans, or any other group of people are here legally, I have no problem with that. If they are here illegally, then as far as I am concerned, they can die on the streets. What part of ILLEGAL do you Liberal fools NOT understand? Illegals must be stopped. If that means using force to stop them, so be it. If some illegal runs through my property trying to escape the law, he/she is shot dead. No questions asked. Ofcourse I would have to be sure that they were illegals, but if they were, they can bend over and kiss their tails good-bye. By stopping the illegals from entering this country, you give more work to those who are here legally. So it is time that you Liberals start learning the difference between LEGAL and ILLEGAL. Obviously you do not know the difference as of yet.

I realize you are just looking for an opportunity to rant on a vaguely related subject (which provided the usual high amount of lolz), but please try to stay on topic.

[BigdaddyQH]

Illegal immigrants are not eligible to receive any welfare benefits...also these dumb hicks can't even get the stereotypes right...illegal immigrants from Mexico come to the US for work...not to freeload...of course that still is no excuse for them since it is against the law.

Right, and the St. Louis Rams are going to win the Superbowl this season. Are you totally naieve? Do you have any idea of how many hundreds of thousands of Illegal Hispanics receive welfare benefits in California alone? Sneak over the border with a pregnant woman and once the baby is delivered, they are home free.

[Dad]

See here is the thing: the pricipal/school has every right to do what needs to be done to maintain order. But what these kids were doing was not in anyway disrupting the order. It's not like they were wearing "**** Mexico" shirts. What SHOULD have happened is if someone else started a problem, they should have been sent home. I hate to say it, but I really do think this is a racist vice principal.

[donjuan]

See here is the thing: the pricipal/school has every right to do what needs to be done to maintain order. But what these kids were doing was not in anyway disrupting the order. It's not like they were wearing "**** Mexico" shirts. What SHOULD have happened is if someone else started a problem, they should have been sent home. I hate to say it, but I really do think this is a racist vice principal.

http://www.kcbs.com/bayareanews/Students-Walkout-at-Morgan-Hill-High-School/6987752

Last year on Cinco de Mayo, scuffles broke out after groups carrying American and Mexican flags clashed. Flags of any kind were banned this year.

[blanda]

Mexicans are great people...

[pavyracer]

See here is the thing: the pricipal/school has every right to do what needs to be done to maintain order. But what these kids were doing was not in anyway disrupting the order. It's not like they were wearing "**** Mexico" shirts. What SHOULD have happened is if someone else started a problem, they should have been sent home. I hate to say it, but I really do think this is a racist vice principal.

If a brawl broke up and kids were injured or stabbed the principal would have been sued for not sending the kids home earlier.

[BigdaddyQH]

http://www.kcbs.com/bayareanews/Stud...School/6987752

What a bunch of cry babies. Who gives a crap about what they think. Who ever said that they could think? Screw them and their "heritage". How do these dumb s**ts expect to get any respect for their heritage when they do crap like this? The Vice Principal is nothing more than a racist, and only a Liberal would deny that. Dad is right. The Vice Principal deserves to be reprimanded for this incident. He incidted this mess. The more I see of this, the more my hatred of Hispanics grow. And this is going to increase my respect for their heritage? All this does is increase the hatred amongst Whites and Mexicans.

[BigdaddyQH]

If a brawl broke up and kids were injured or stabbed the principal would have been sued for not sending the kids home earlier.

The kids that deserve to be sent home were the kids who were bitching and moaning about the shirts, not the kids that were wearing them. Any school official or principal that refuses to allow kids to wear shirts bearing the flag of the United States should be fired immediately. This was nothing more than racism exercised by a Vice Pirincial who has a Hispanic background. Thanks to him, he has just branded every Hispanic kid in his school as a racist. The stupidity of this man exceeds any excuse he may have given.

[THE PROFIT]

Did Mexicans fight in the British or American Civil War? How about the Cubans? Maybe Puerto Ricans?

why would mexicans be involved in someone elses civil war? Do you know what a CIVIL war is?

[donjuan]

What a bunch of cry babies. Who gives a crap about what they think. Who ever said that they could think? Screw them and their "heritage". How do these dumb s**ts expect to get any respect for their heritage when they do crap like this? The Vice Principal is nothing mreo than a racist,and only a Liberal would deny that. Dad is right. The Vice Principal deserves to be reprimanded for this incident. He incidted this mess. The more I see of this, the more my hatred of Hispanics grow. And this is going to increase my respect for their heritage? All this does is increase the hatred amongst Whites and Mexicans.

You come across as even dumber here than you do when you talk about sports betting. That is quite an achievement.

They had a problem last year and dealt with it in a fairly reasonable manner by banning both flags so as to prevent any further problems. Not sure why that would make you hate Mexican-Americans.

[BigdaddyQH]

why would mexicans be involved in someone elses civil war? Do you know what a CIVIL war is?

Obviously not. I did not know that the British even had a civil war recently. Maybe he means the War between the United States and Mexico, where he could logically assume that Mexicans may have been involved. Duh???????????????

[Sunde91]

Juan, I want you to tell me how your country and countrymen would respond in Mexico if this happened there.

Any country not run by insane, self-hating white liberals, i.e. most white countries today, would have laughed in the face of the "offended", or would have asked bluntly: "Are you serious?", or would have discplined them; and those are moderate responses. The truth is, in most countries this would never, EVER happen as the minority citizens know their place on issues like this, not here.

[MendozaLine]

. Not only that, these kids live in a state that is home to many latinos. These kids were looking for attention. The principle did the right thing

If they are wearing the flags on May 5th and never have worn them before its a clear affront to the Hispanic community on their (perceived or real) day, its just not necessary. If that type of clothing is allowed, wear the American flag all you want the next day and every day.

[wal66]

What kind of pussy ass school has a "Brunch Break"?

[itchypickle]

Turns out at least one of the boys sent home...has a hispanic father (there goes the racist white kid argument). Anyone see the footage of the mass of latino students almost picking a fight with a middle aged white guy on a hoever-round scooter? classy....real classy. So more 'theoretical acts of hatred' by the white guys...leads to ACTUAL crowds of Mexicans taunting said white citizens. Lets now answer...which side showed the most civility and logic and context to this whole non-matter shall we??

[donjuan]

Juan, I want you to tell me how your country and countrymen would respond in Mexico if this happened there.

Any country not run by insane, self-hating white liberals, i.e. most white countries today, would have laughed in the face of the "offended", or would have asked bluntly: "Are you serious?", or would have discplined them; and those are moderate responses. The truth is, in most countries this would never, EVER happen as the minority citizens know their place on issues like this, not here.

Is your reading comprehension really this poor? I've already clearly stated in this thread that I'm American and have zero Hispanic/Mexican blood in me.

[MendozaLine]

students dont have any rights once they're in a school. I wasn't allowed to wear pro baseball hats at my high school. Way to do your research dipshit

First of all, the 1st amendment gives them the right to wear the shirts anytime they choose. Secondly, who gives a crap about affronting the Hispanic Community. Hispanics piss many Americans off everyday, and could care less. If the Hispanic Community thinks that they deserve to get more consideration than other American Communities, then they can shove it up their asses. They get just as much consideration as any other community. No more. These crybabies had better learn that they are not the #1 concern of Americans. And they had better learn that we will not put up with their Bull S**t about illegals. If I catch some Hispanic hiding an illegal, their tails go directly to jail without passing "GO" and without collecting $200.00.

[Sunde91]

Is your reading comprehension really this poor? I've already clearly stated in this thread that I'm American and have zero Hispanic/Mexican blood in me.

"Poor reading comprehension" =/= me deliberately ignoring what you said for rhetorical purposes.

I want you to answer the question.

The self-hate in you must really run deep IF you're white and you take the blatantly irrational, phony altruistic side of an argument.

[losturmarbles]

Just cause you have the "right" to do something that doesn't make it right. Plus, kids in school have 1st amendment rights taken from them all the time, this is an odd place to make a stand for them.

yeah, i guess you would've been on the school's side in Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District also. (slim chance) and yet you actually sound like you approve of the erosion of first amendment rights since then.

all this is just another example of why the government shouldn't be in the education business to start with.

[donjuan]

"Poor reading comprehension" =/= me deliberately ignoring what you said for rhetorical purposes.

I want you to answer the question.

The self-hate in you must really run deep IF you're white and you take the blatantly irrational, phony altruistic side of an argument.

For rhetorical purposes? How does blatantly misrepresenting my nationality in order to attempt to slander me make it for a "rhetorical purpose"?

Anyway, your question is a ridiculous straw man.

[Naz18]

students dont have any rights once they're in a school. I wasn't allowed to wear pro baseball hats at my high school. Way to do your research dipshit

These dumb rednecks don't know that...they were probably home schooled.

[pavyracer]

First of all, the 1st amendment gives them the right to wear the shirts anytime they choose. Secondly, who gives a crap about affronting the Hispanic Community. Hispanics piss many Americans off everyday, and could care less. If the Hispanic Community thinks that they deserve to get more consideration than other American Communities, then they can shove it up their asses. They get just as much consideration as any other community. No more. These crybabies had better learn that they are not the #1 concern of Americans. And they had better learn that we will not put up with their Bull S**t about illegals. If I catch some Hispanic hiding an illegal, their tails go directly to jail without passing "GO" and without collecting $200.00.

Actually there are rules on what attire is considered acceptable at a high school. This has nothing to do with 1st amendment. 1st amendment applies only when you are in your house regarding clothing. I dare you to walk down naked downtown where you live with the american flag painted on your chest and claim 1st amendment when the cops tackle you to the ground and put handcuffs on you.

[DrStale]

Pretty much everyone involved here acted like an idiot.

The kids obviously wore the American flag shirts on Cinco de Mayo because they are immature teenagers and thought it would be funny. It's not funny, it's just stupid. If they were really doing it to show their pride they would have done it on any other day. It is not a coincidence that they picked May 5th. They just wanted to start shit.

The principals might be even dumber than the kids. How do you not realize that sending these kids home for doing this is a public relations nightmare waiting to happen? Unless they kids were actually in danger there's no need to magnify the problem one hundred fold. Ignore it, let the kids think they're hilarious for a day and move on. I'm sure that's how it's been dealt with any number of times before as I doubt these kids were the first ones to come up with such a clever act of rebellion.

[Sunde91]

For rhetorical purposes? How does blatantly misrepresenting my nationality in order to attempt to slander me make it for a "rhetorical purpose"?

Anyway, your question is a ridiculous straw man.

Because you being Mexican would only add to it that much more and I wasnt't convinced anyway, "Juan". But the point is still that in the same situation, the "offended" would be laughed at, questioned if they were serious, or punishded in any sane country.

It's not a straw man; you don't even know what that means. A straw man is when one misrepresents someone else's argument and creates a refuation based on that misrepresentation to give the appearance that the refutation is legitimate and of an actual position.

A spontaneous question is not a "straw man"

[donjuan]

Because you being Mexican would only add to it that much more and I wasnt't convinced anyway, "Juan". But the point is still that in the same situation, the "offended" would be laughed at, questioned if they were serious, or punishded in any sane country.

It's not a straw man; you don't even know what that means. A straw man is when one misrepresents someone else's argument and creates a refuation based on that misrepresentation to give the appearance that the refutation is legitimate and of an actual position.

A spontaneous question is not a "straw man"

LOL you just admitted to purposefully misrepresenting my position. Your question has no place in the argument because how they (allegedly would) do things is Mexico has no bearing on what is right and wrong and even if it did it has no place in this discussion because the scenario would be so absurdly different.

[Sunde91]

LOL you just admitted to purposefully misrepresenting my position. Your question has no place in the argument because how they (allegedly would) do things is Mexico has no bearing on what is right and wrong and even if it did it has no place in this discussion because the scenario would be so absurdly different.

You've hardly articulated a "position" beyond a few senteces that demonstrate any kind of point; I only casually misrepresented your ethnicity when it was in question anyway when I only half-remembered what you had said the day prior; but yeah, keep quibbling over it.

And how is it not relevant? It's fairly evident what side is right here, i.e. the side that says American citizens should be allowed to where American shirts in America. Given that, it is worth pointing out the grander context of reality on how the "offended" victims' country would have handled the exact same situation, which is to say differently.

[ShamsWoof10]

well sh*t in some AMERICAN cities (i.e. Miami) English is becoming a second language... and BTW if that stupid Census comes here again I am going to tell them my name is first: AL Last: Queada and moved in September 11th of 01'.. If he gives me shit I am slamming the door in his face...