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    Isn't it odd that Chris Webber is not in the Hall of Fame?

    The guy was one of the best PFs in the league for over a decade, probably the best college player in the country for 2 years straight, put up incredible numbers in the league, should have got to the finals a couple times but was denied by Kobe. Lesser stars have made it to the hall. I don't think I can name 10 better power forwards than Chris Webber since the mid 90s till now.

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    He should be in the HOF.

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    yes. he definitely should be. solid stats year after year. good passer too.

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    I donít know borderline I donít think he has the stats and big wins

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    Good question Goater.

    Based on numbers alone he should be in.
    The torn meniscus cut short his career, so the main reason why the voters didn't elect him was due to longevity, or lack of thereof.
    The other issue I think is the accepting that money from boosters while at Michigan.
    That hurt him I believe.

    But I did some statistical analysis, Webber had four consecutive outstanding playoff stats for the Kings.
    The Kings got robbed in the Western Conference finals in 2002 by the way, they had the Lakers by the balls.

    Webbers playoff stats from 2000-2003
    (The dude played almost every minute in the playoffs for four years)


    From To G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
    2000 2003 36 36 40.5 9.7 21.1 0.461 0 0.4 0.077 9.7 20.8 0.467 0.461 4.2 6.4 0.658 3.2 7.1 10.3 4.2 1.1 1.4 3 3.7 23.7

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    There you go again numbers numbers numbers...

    They guy was a fuckin pussy. Didn't play any defense and routinely choked when the shots mattered most -I remember those Kings/ Lakers battles well, it was Bibby carrying the Kings on his back with clutch shot after clutch shot. Never mind the fact that he's a LIAR.

    Give me Karl Malone over him. Malone had toughness in abundance, and though not a shot-blocker he was physical and had great hands for stripping balls loose thus he was a 2-way player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBetYou View Post
    There you go again numbers numbers numbers...

    They guy was a fuckin pussy. Didn't play any defense and routinely choked when the shots mattered most -I remember those Kings/ Lakers battles well, it was Bibby carrying the Kings on his back with clutch shot after clutch shot. Never mind the fact that he's a LIAR.

    Give me Karl Malone over him. Malone had toughness in abundance, and though not a shot-blocker he was physical and had great hands for stripping balls loose thus he was a 2-way player.
    I did say based on numbers only.
    And I did say he should be in, not he's a lock or anything.

    Malone is in, and yes give me Malone over Webber, even if Malone was one of the dirtiest players that ever lived.
    Him and Stockton got away with murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Good question Goater.

    Based on numbers alone he should be in.
    The torn meniscus cut short his career, so the main reason why the voters didn't elect him was due to longevity, or lack of thereof.
    The other issue I think is the accepting that money from boosters while at Michigan.
    That hurt him I believe.

    But I did some statistical analysis, Webber had four consecutive outstanding playoff stats for the Kings.
    The Kings got robbed in the Western Conference finals in 2002 by the way, they had the Lakers by the balls.

    Webbers playoff stats from 2000-2003
    (The dude played almost every minute in the playoffs for four years)


    From To G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
    2000 2003 36 36 40.5 9.7 21.1 0.461 0 0.4 0.077 9.7 20.8 0.467 0.461 4.2 6.4 0.658 3.2 7.1 10.3 4.2 1.1 1.4 3 3.7 23.7

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    Nah. You can't put every guy in

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    I did say based on numbers only.
    And I did say he should be in, not he's a lock or anything.

    Malone is in, and yes give me Malone over Webber, even if Malone was one of the dirtiest players that ever lived.
    Him and Stockton got away with murder.
    OP is obsessed with numbers

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    Should be in, but no way you can compare him to Malone 2nd most points in NBA history.

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    Rasheed was a better player than him but they both should be in. He definitely was not best college player in country over Laettner and Shaq though. Or Calbert Cheaney.
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    He's a joke artist

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    karl malone was damn good. no jordan he has a ring or two possibly.

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    If Alonzo Mourning is in, I guess Webber should be in too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBetYou View Post
    OP is obsessed with numbers
    It's who I am, it's what I do.
    And I make a good living with numbers.

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    Game 6 is why he isn't.... And Dick Bavetta.
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    It’s because of the scandal at the university of Michigan. He’s one of the best power forwards in the history of the game, right their with Barkley and Malone, he just didn’t get to spend a lot of time with a top franchise until he went to Sacramento. He’s the best passing power forward I’ve ever seen, averaged 25 and 10 in his prime with Sacramento.

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    He deserves to be in.

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    Nothing rigged but if the Sacramento la series were officiated fairly he’d have at least one ring.

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    If he's in then sheed needs to be in. They are similar in talent and overall affect of the game from the pf or 4 spot though very different playing styles

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    Plus he played low profile team which didnít help

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    Just put everyone in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Just put everyone in.
    Brian Scalabrine....has more rings than Karl Malone and Barkley
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    Quote Originally Posted by booya711 View Post
    brian scalabrine....has more rings than karl malone and barkley
    lmao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    It’s because of the scandal at the university of Michigan. He’s one of the best power forwards in the history of the game, right their with Barkley and Malone, he just didn’t get to spend a lot of time with a top franchise until he went to Sacramento. He’s the best passing power forward I’ve ever seen, averaged 25 and 10 in his prime with Sacramento.
    Yeah, I figure it's because of the scandal. So dumb honestly. Guy takes a bit of money and that someone diminishes his bball ability?
    Quote Originally Posted by shadymcgrady View Post
    If he's in then sheed needs to be in. They are similar in talent and overall affect of the game from the pf or 4 spot though very different playing styles
    Disagree here. I love Sheed but Chris Webber was a much better player. Scoring, rebounding, passing, pretty much every asset of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Just put everyone in.
    Name 10 better power forwards than Webber post 1980. That's 40 years you'll have to pick from.

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    It's all racist, when will the NBA allow blacks in the hall of fame!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    It's who I am, it's what I do.
    And I make a good living with numbers.
    OP = Original Poster... I wasn't talking about you or to you, clear off lol

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    lamar odom being inducted to chickenhead ranch Hall of Fame in september
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBetYou View Post
    OP = Original Poster... I wasn't talking about you or to you, clear off lol
    My bad, it's all good.
    Carry on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Nah. You can't put every guy in
    Why not, the NFL does it.

    Only sacred Hall of Fames are MLB and the NHL, I don't know much NHL but die hard puck heads tell me you don't get to the NHL Hall for no good reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    Yeah, I figure it's because of the scandal. So dumb honestly. Guy takes a bit of money and that someone diminishes his bball ability?

    Disagree here. I love Sheed but Chris Webber was a much better player. Scoring, rebounding, passing, pretty much every asset of the game.
    Not defense or toughness, sheed was regarded as a top 5 player at his height in Portland. Webber was only ever regarded as a top 5 PF in his prime with Sacramento.

    Both guys were 20/10 guys but sheed has the ring and was the best player on that Detroit team. Webber got robbed by donaghy against the Lakers but someone else mentioned it correctly when they said Webber was soft and not a worker

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadymcgrady View Post

    Not defense or toughness, sheed was regarded as a top 5 player at his height in Portland. Webber was only ever regarded as a top 5 PF in his prime with Sacramento.

    Both guys were 20/10 guys but sheed has the ring and was the best player on that Detroit team. Webber got robbed by donaghy against the Lakers but someone else mentioned it correctly when they said Webber was soft and not a worker
    Wallace was the better defender than Webber, Webber was the much better talent though. The Detroit team Wallace got a ring with had no superstars, Wallace was good but older on that team.

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