World Cup system

[franky]

Tell me if i am wrong:

I have a favourite for the World Cup soccer winner. But this is not so important. The most important thing is the system that can everybody makes. My favourite is Argentina. Look at www.betfair.com, look at the "winner" odds. Now the odd for winner for Argentina is 8.8(decimal odd.) I have made 1000 EUR bet for Argentina now on 8.8 . Look at the Argentinas Group - It is simple, they will continue to the 1-4 finals. But this is not so important.When they pass the Groups - the odd for winner for Argentina will be no more than 6.00 so - here is your Surebet.i will back now Argentina for winner and after that i will lay it. So tell me if i am wrong.

[kingofhill]

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Ok, but there is a risk on this bet. how can you know that Argentina will continue from the Groups?

[franky]

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i know and you know, everybody knows that Argentina will continue fro the groups, so this is sure. You can bet on it. If you are not so sure about Argentina make the same bet for Spain, England, Brazil if you like. It doesnt matter you dont bet Argentina or some other team to win the World Cup, you bet on sure.

[rfr3sh]

I think argentina will be the "dark horse" of the tournament, a lot of people writing them of because of them almost not qualifying

[franky]

world cup

This is not so important, you can choose for this system Brazil or any other team.

I think that Argentian will be the next World Cup winner.

[kingofhill]

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You must know that Spain will be the winner. I dont know what is Spains Group, i cant find "who will play with who after the groups"

[flyingillini]

System? No Mames guey!

[acarmelo1]

mmm Maradona's Argentina will not win, next winner will be Brazil, Italy or Spain maybe south africa

[franky]

winner

Spain is gone. They have not any chance!!!!
Look that if Spain continue fro the groups they will play with Brazil, Portugal, Ivory Coast, They dont have any chance, look at the group statistic:

http://www.timescores.com/en/Soccer/World_Cup/

http://www.bet365.com

[acarmelo1]

I know spain will not win

Each world cup they are favorites and they lose. It is an EPIC Fail

I do not trust Maradona that is why I do not Trust this Argentina Team

[franky]

winner

Good reason, but you know that if Messi, Kun Aguero, Tevez, Milito, Higuin, if someone can make from them TEAM - this world cup will be EPIC. Yeah, you are right, maradonna is no tso good coach, but they have respect of him, Messi has trusth of him, this is most important. So we cant say who will be the winnner, we can predict who has the best chances for this final - so my prediction is ARGENTINA

[acarmelo1]

Good Luck
I am on ITALY and I knwo they have like 10% of winning, but when you are a fan. You are a Fan till the end.

[franky]

winner



Ok, i accept your opinion. So
You are for Italy, i am for Argentina, any way -

[KingKolzig]

Argentina has no defense. And no scoring from the midfield to help out Messi/Tevez. Plus they dont have an elite goaltender. They are a good team but they wont make the semi's

[acarmelo1]

Barcelona is the same and messi makes it work

[rfr3sh]

England will win

[KingKolzig]

Barcelona is the same and messi makes it work

ummmmm no


Argentina have no defense near the ability of Puyol, Pique or Dani Alves

Xavi, Iniesta in the middle......compared to Cambiasso and who Maxi, please

And then in net, Victor Valdez is better than any goalie in Argetina this decade


Just cause Messi plays on the best team in the world doesnt mean his national team will now be the best national team in the world, please

[franky]

winner

Ok, spain has wonderfull team, BUT this is not enough. You know that. Do not FORGET the african teams.

[Smogs]

Just skimmed the thread, but to answer the 1st post, you need to work out whether the odds for Argentina to qualify from their group is more/less profitable than to back Argentina to win @ 8.8 (don't forget 5% commission) and lay at whatever they are.

Books are clever for this - i expect the price on Argentina to not drop that much, unless of course public money and big performances happen

[acarmelo1]

ummmmm no


Argentina have no defense near the ability of Puyol, Pique or Dani Alves

Xavi, Iniesta in the middle......compared to Cambiasso and who Maxi, please

And then in net, Victor Valdez is better than any goalie in Argetina this decade


Just cause Messi plays on the best team in the world doesnt mean his national team will now be the best national team in the world, please

?? all those guys sucks

if Barcelona didnt had messi It will suck and lose all its games

Messi is a one man team

[rfr3sh]

?? all those guys sucks if Barcelona didnt had messi It will suck and lose all its games Messi is a one man team

[franky]

winner

Look at the last 8 games for Spain and and last 10 for Argentina - 1.http://www.timescores.com/en/Soccer/...igeria-Nigeria
2.http://www.timescores.com/en/Soccer/...nd-Switzerland

Spain has 8 wins, Argentina 7 wins and 3 loses. But, there is one BIG, very BIG "BUT"
Spain on 1/8 finals will play with Brazil, Ivory Coast or Portugal.Argentina will play with Mexico, France, South Africa or Uruguay. The 1/8 finals for Argentina is much easier.

[Smogs]

?? all those guys sucks

if Barcelona didnt had messi It will suck and lose all its games

Messi is a one man team

Don't think i've seen such an 'ill-educated' (i'm being polite) statement since the last time BatemanP made a post

[acarmelo1]

I am just exagerating,
but we call barcelona team here on panama messi and 10 more

[Smogs]

I am just exagerating,
but we call barcelona team here on panama messi and 10 more

Have you ever watched Barca play? I know your exaggerating but who keeps the clean sheets, who breaks down opposition attacks in the middle, who holds the line up front, who scores the 35 yard free kicks? Know what i'm saying, Barca are the perfect team. Iniesta and Xavi are as good in their positions as Messi is in his.

You'll see it at the world cup

[JOHON8]

I love Argentina making it far, but they are not as good as Brazil or Spain team wise. They don't have a solid coach or enough solid experience as a team to make it past the top 3 teams in the world. They might have 2 of the best players + a talented squad but as a team they haven't shown character like Brazil has to come back from losing in a game recently.

Is there another practice game before the WC?

[kingofhill]

Ivory Coast will reach the semi finals, England will take the CUP

[Smogs]

England will take the CUP

We can't win it, our manager isn't English - i need to spread this to stop money going on teams who can't win the World Cup

[JOHON8]

We can't win it, our manager isn't English - i need to spread this to stop money going on teams who can't win the World Cup

why would you wanna do that?! let money go on the wrong teams, and then take value on the opposite right?

We should start looking seriously into the games a week or so before they begin. The rest should be betting during and after the first round just to see if teams are reacting to our predictions.

[KingKolzig]

?? all those guys sucks

if Barcelona didnt had messi It will suck and lose all its games

Messi is a one man team

Im glad you got ass-blasted for this comment

[acarmelo1]

I do not support Spain nor Argentina

ITALY WILL WIN!!!!!!

[Karayilan9]

Ivory Coast will reach the semi finals, England will take the CUP

Ivory Coast will be lucky to get a point

[phenomenon]

Argentina?
No way, I don t think Argentina will win the cup, look at their defence,may be their forwarders are good but if ur defence is suck,no matter how many goals score u are,
Remember Greece,They took European cup with defence...
Argentina looks like Holland, with this defense these teams can t be successful in this big tournaments...

[Smogs]

why would you wanna do that?! let money go on the wrong teams, and then take value on the opposite right?

We should start looking seriously into the games a week or so before they begin. The rest should be betting during and after the first round just to see if teams are reacting to our predictions.

There should be ONE thread per match, then we can all contribute our thoughts into one thread instead of having them spread over multiple threads where info could be missed. We need to all consolidate our thoughts and i guarantee the soccer forum will make a killing

Ivory Coast will be lucky to get a point

Agreed, and that will come against Portugal

[TurkzZ]

Agree with smogs, ill be willing to open a thread and write a preview on each match for the world cup and everybody can discuss the match in thread.

As for the world cup, i think Argentina do have a good chance, i disagree that there defence is bad, Argentina will go into the world Cup with 4 Centre backs, (Heinze, Samuell, Demichiles, Otamendi) along with Mascharano sitting in front, i cant see them being too bad in defence. Samuell is one of the best in europe IMO, demichlies is solid. Problem here is , when attacking Otamendi and Heinze dont really offer a threat.

Argentina will be based on a counter attack, from what iv watched and read , it seems messi is going to almost be used as a decoy with Di Maria being the secret scoring weapon on the teams with his runs from deep cutting in.

Veron in my opinion is still up there with the best, physically still in shape and iv yet to see a player with greater vision and range of passes.