I haven't heard of any Westgate type of contests being offered by these State run sportsbooks
are there any ?
are there any ?
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Playsugarhouse
$150 entry
$2500 weekly winners plus..
First prize - $125,000
2nd - $40,000
3rd - $20,000
4th - $15,000
5th - $10,000
6th-10th - $5,000
11th-20th - $3,000
21st-30th - $2,000
31st-50th - $1,000
51st-100th - $500
101st-200th - $250
201st-400th - $200
401st-500th - $175
$2500 also biggest loserComment -
that's a nice contest thereComment -
Need JJ to run a proxy service
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agree, he might make more than cutting lawnsOriginally posted by ReloadNeed JJ to run a proxy service
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just found an article about NJ not offering these contests, looks like a good read
WHY ISN’T THERE A SUPERCONTEST-STYLE NFL SPORTS BETTING COMPETITION IN NJ?
Over the weekend, Play SugarHouse announced the $500k Pennsylvania Pick ’Em, a $150 buy-in season-long NFL picks contest with a first-place guarantee of at least $125k.That’s right — Pennsylvania, the state that has perpetually lagged behind New Jersey on all things gambling and sports betting, has an NFL picks contest, roughly in the mold of the famous Las Vegas SuperContest.
Meanwhile, in New Jersey, where the Play SugarHouse online sportsbook launched nearly a year before it did in Pennsylvania, we’re a month away from the start of the NFL season and there’s nothing. Bupkis. There are 13 active online/mobile sportsbooks and 10 land-based books, and none of them are offering a Garden State version of the SuperContest.On July 25, a respected sports bettor who publicly uses the pseudonym Captain Jack Andrews shared what he’d heard via industry sources and noted the response (or lack thereof) in New Jersey:
Captain Jack Andrews@capjack2000 Back on July 15, I reached out to NJDGE spokesperson Kerry Langan asking her to clarify the whispers I've heard from various NJ books. The operators would like to offer an NFL handicapping contest in NJ, but the DGE has denied their requests. There has been no reply from DGE.��1712:52 PM - Jul 25, 2019
NJ Online Gambling did succeed in getting a response from Kerry Langan on Aug. 1, and though there were elements of vagueness to her answer, she denied Andrews’ assertion.“In order to approve a new event for sports wagering, DGE must first receive an application for that event from a licensed operator,” Langan wrote on behalf of the New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement. “To date, DGE has not rejected any application from an operator regarding a season-long NFL picks contest.”So what gives? Why does Pennsylvania have a picks contest and New Jersey, as of now, does not?
Verbal tip-toeingWe reached out to several New Jersey sportsbook operators about their respective efforts to offer a season-long picks contest, and none gave us any substantial information on the record. A representative of DraftKings did back up what Langan told us, noting, “The NJ DGE does not have any ban on season-long NFL contests.”But beyond that, specifics were hard to come by. In defense of the sportsbooks, they presumably all want to maintain healthy working relationships with the DGE, and if it was true that one of them put effort into launching a contest and ran into regulatory roadblocks, it would be in its best interest not to discuss that matter publicly.
One source who requested anonymity confirmed to NJ Online Gambling that at least one sportsbook is planning to offer a free-to-enter season-long contest.FanDuel and DraftKings, the two leaders in the NJ market, both confirmed to us that they will offer free-to-enter weekly picks contests. FanDuel will also have a “survivor” contest (sometimes called an “elimination” pool), which is also free. And DraftKings plans to offer paid weekly pick ’em contests for New Jersey customers, as the sportsbook did last year.Possible reasons for reluctanceThe same source that said a free contest is likely coming indicated that taxing the revenue from a paid season-long NFL picks contest was shaping up as a complication that might have dissuaded some sportsbooks.
Another insider with knowledge of the situation noted that if Executive Director David Rebuck and the folks at the DGE are hesitant to approve a SuperContest-style competition, one reason could be the headaches caused by last season’s controversial DraftKings Sports Betting National Championship.(On a related note, DraftKings gave a scoop to NJ Online Gambling that there will be a second annual SBNC — and that instead of happening during a playoff football weekend in January again, this one is slated for a regular-season NFL week in December.)The insider also suggested that cold feet, from both operators and the DGE, could be related to concerns over non-NJ-based entrants using proxies to be make their picks, which would fall under a gray area in the back-and-forth over interpreting the Wire Act of 1961.
Nevada has welcomed the use of proxies in the SuperContest, though the initial entry must be made in-state. But the insider suspects the NJ DGE would be more likely to block, and have to police, the use of proxies, creating significant extra effort, expense, and liability.What happens in Vegas …The SuperContest, operated by the Westgate Las Vegas, remains the world’s premier NFL picks competition, attracting high-profile entrants like Jeopardy! champ James Holzhauer and generating a 2018 prize pool in excess of $4 mm. The $1,500 buy-in event, in which each entrant chooses five games to pick against the spread each week, garnered 3,123 contestants last year.
That number is almost certain to grow in 2019.Nobody expects New Jersey to compete with those stats out of the gate — and presumably the buy-ins would be much lower. (In Pennsylvania, SugarHouse is experimenting with just 10% of the SuperContest entry fee.)Also, in New Jersey, if such contests were up and running this NFL season, there might be a half-dozen or more sportsbooks offering them, and that array of options would reduce the entry numbers for any individual contest.But the way things are looking, NJ sports bettors will only be able to speculate about how big such a contest at any price point could be.
Unless something changes in the next month, what many assumed was a given throughout the NFL offseason — that New Jersey sportsbooks would offer their own versions of the SuperContest in 2019 — will soon shift to a “what could have been?” for 2019, and then to a focus of speculation for 2020.
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Weekly winners.Originally posted by jjgold
Gold, will you run to Sugerhouse for me once a week? On the regular?
You take percentage of winnings, if it goes well I'll handle getting you cash and you can move up and run for real in the area.
Yah?Comment -
I want to get in on Play SugarHouse, multiple entries.
At $150 a pop lets put in 10 or less than 20 spots and bust the top 30, along with the weekly goods.
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Participation in this promotion will be offered by the following entities: BetRivers.com and PlaySugarhouse.com. Each entity will provide an opportunity for contestants to participate through a buy-in. The aggregate total of all buy-ins will make up the prize pool and eligible participants, with a minimum prize pool of $500,000 guaranteed.
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- The contest will guarantee a minimum total payout of $500,000 should the number of participants not meet the required minimum to meet the prize structure payout below.
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- Prize winners will be announced Tuesday, December 31st by 3pm.
Less than $500,000 in Entries Per Place Per Tier $500,000+ Entries* Per Place Per Tier 1st $125,000 $125,000 1st 25.00% 25.00% 2nd $40,000 $40,000 2nd 8.00% 8.00% 3rd $20,000 $20,000 3rd 4.00% 4.00% 4th $15,000 $15,000 4th 3.00% 3.00% 5th $10,000 $10,000 5th 2.00% 2.00% 6-10th $5,000 $25,000 6-10th 1.00% 5.00% 11-20th $3,000 $30,000 11th-20 0.60% 6.00% 21-30th $2,000 $20,000 21-30th 0.40% 4.00% 31-50th $1,000 $20,000 31-50th 0.20% 4.00% 51-100th $500 $25,000 51-100th 0.10% 5.00% 101-200th $250 $25,000 101-200th 0.05% 5.00% 201-400th $200 $40,000 201-400th 0.04% 8.00% 401-500th $175 $17,500 401-500th 0.04% 3.50% Most Incorrect Picks $2,500 $2,500 Most Incorrect Picks 0.50% 0.50% Season Long Payouts $415,000 Season Long Payouts 83.00% Week 1- 17 Payouts $2,500 $5,000 Week 1- 17 Payouts 0.50% 1.00% Weekly Payouts $85,000 Weekly Payouts 17.00%
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Gold, sweep, lkid1?
Who wants to take these fukkers to task?
It's on me and you can even, as pay, run your own spots. In those cases, we work out commission the other way and you take the majority.
Pay for getting the rest down for me.
Let's do this.
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JJ doesn't have to be there. it's all onlineOriginally posted by KVBComment -
25 entries at each placeOriginally posted by KVBComment -
In california though, I probably still need remote access or someone in the state to place the bets.Originally posted by SBR TonyComment -
This is like a casting call for beards.Originally posted by SBR Tony
The contest and it's machinations are just the trial, we have openings in that area, I think, but it's not much as lines aren't that great and we will be limited. In the end, it may pan out to nothing.
What I also need is someone in Nevada, preferably Vegas to pick up some golf sheets for me, starting this fall. I believe I offered Gold that spot when he was in Vegas.
Easy money. This is a job offer here and SBR can take it down if need be. But no contact info has been traded, yet.
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that's why I said JJ doesn't have to go to the sportsbook, just needs to place the picks onlineOriginally posted by KVB
and with 25 entries per site, playsugar and betrivers, that's 50 entries he or someone from PA can proxyComment -
I see, then don't need multiple people.Originally posted by SBR Tony
Gold, check the fukk in.
Do I need to get on WhatsApp here?
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To lazy to do the math, whats the takeout percentage in this Sugarhouse fiasco?Comment -
Weekly picks are only straight up winners. No lines or odds will be consideredComment -
All these USA based contests shit unless one is capable of writing off the taxes or has a Canada resident to partner up with.
Stick with SBR CONTESTS............much better.
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- The contest will guarantee a minimum total payout of $500,000 should the number of participants not meet the required minimum to meet the prize structure payout below.
- If there are more than $500,000 in contest buy-ins, each additional dollar collected will be added to the prize pool as shown on the schedule below.
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That's decent, they should have had an ADD ON special of three nights dinner with JJGOLD to the winner.Originally posted by SBR TonyComment -
I rarely do contests. It really is the last stop priority wise to put plays in and often gets skipped. That should have changed with BTC being added for points, but it hasn't changed for me yet...lol.Originally posted by FishheadAll these USA based contests shit unless one is capable of writing off the taxes or has a Canada resident to partner up with.
Stick with SBR CONTESTS............much better.
I get DQ'd a lot for not making minimum # of plays. Probably should try harder though, I've drawn straight cash from SBR in the past.
Pretty generous for sure.
Fish do live in Iowa or Vegas? Are you mostly getting down online or in houses?
If you don't mind me asking.Comment -
Resided in Vegas almost 30 years total after spending first 24 years in IOWA...…Originally posted by KVB
…..play offshore, credit shops, PPH's(credit), most Nevada shops, and some of the new shops that have popped up around this country, as well as some small juice free stuff on some forums.Comment -
You know what, if every Tom, Dick and Harry (and LLoyd) can put in 25 entries and it's only a buck fiddy, and they can do it from their couch, it's probably going to be out of hand.
Even for weekly prices probably a rat race too.
Fuk that.
But I still need someone in the area and someone in Nevada (could be almost anywhere). Nevada for the golf sheets, I need specific info I can't get online.
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im in!Originally posted by KVBI want to get in on Play SugarHouse, multiple entries.
At $150 a pop lets put in 10 or less than 20 spots and bust the top 30, along with the weekly goods.
side not i havee never used any proxy service to try and play these contests are they legit?Comment -
the way the contest is set up with no lines reminds me when Bally's in AC had a free pick'em contest back in the day, where you picked every game ( which is what this is ) I don't remember how many entries you were allowed but I do remember hitting 80% one week and not getting a dime. they had multiple winners that hit 100% each week. but that was free, so god knows how many entries they had each weekComment -
Sounds like this contest will just be flooded, see post #24, I don't think it's worth the work. Let's find something a little more expensive and exclusive.Originally posted by biggie12
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Nope no proxy
SBR policyComment -
Picking up golf sheets from a few select books in town and then scanning or reporting back to me about them would not be a proxy, though.Originally posted by jjgold
Gold get to Vegas. Actually, do the books over there print sheets and hang em on the wall? Do they print golf tournament odds?
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Nope
Just talked to Genie and she was teed off
She was yelling at the top
Of her lungs
God BlessComment -
Genie not interrupting her pool time to talk to youOriginally posted by jjgold
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Photo not clear enough
I want to see everythingComment
