Now its sleeping pills and carbon monoxide..wow

[obamaismyuncle]

04-11-10, 01:37 PM #1 TONY MONTANA
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Join Date: Aug 29, 2005
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THANKS TO ALL OUR FRIENDS..
As you can imagine this is a terrible time for our family. I have lost my beautiful mother and my close friend and stepfather Ken.

I just want to come on EOG to confirm the lose. Ken and my mother have passed away. They took their own lives sometime late Wednesday night or early Thursday mornig with sleeping pills carbon monoxide...

I want to let all of you know that he loved EOG and the posters...it was his passion. He mention this in a note he left for me and wanted to say he was sorry for leaving you all...mostly Mo, Blondie, Ball, and Jimmy who worked so hard to keep EOG rolling. I am at his desk...crying my eyes out as I type..

They left no reason for what they did thou I have my own ideas....I am just very sad and my heart is broken...I lost my best friend of the last 40+ years and the greatest mom a fellas could have....my heart is truely broken. If there is a heaven I know my mom is there planting flowers and waiting on her family to arrive one day....Kens family...by brother, our wives and their heartbroken grandchildren will celebrate their lives on Tuesday.

I know that there has been a lot of rumors flying around and I must admit I was worried this past week that something horrible had happened and my gut was right. I just wanted to come on and share with the folks at EOG what is the only truth in this terrible day....THE SHRINK and my mother are dead..

Thanks for all the good times EOGers...!!

And those who love to to be cruel and run them down...find a new big bad wolf..

[Slim]

Doesn't make sense. They were rich, yes?

[MartinBlank]

Holy shit----

They went Jim Jones style?

Ouch.

[pat venditto]

I smell bullshit.

[Brock Landers]

so how do you go from an "explosion" to suicide by carbon monoxide/sleeping pills?!

The internet is just full of vivid stories and imaginations.

[MartinBlank]

I smell sheeite as well....

I am assuming they had insurance------for their next of kin----why double suicide to null out those policies?

And another question--------double suicide and no media anywhere?

[BeatTheJerk]

I smell bullshit.

+1 WPP = Witness Protection Program

[jjgold]

Doesn't make sense. They were rich, yes?

He had massive debts guy, I would think that was biggest reason he did it

[Chuck Sims]

The exploding house rumor was started by a poster who read a North Carolina story of a house exploding. Update: the house was empty.

Suicide: Makes sense. News media does not report it until family members are notified. In Las Vegas, many suicides do not make the news.

[jjgold]

The exploding house rumor was started by a poster who read a North Carolina story of a house exploding. Update: the house was empty.

Suicide: Makes sense. News media does not report it until family members are notified.

[Brock Landers]

gambling can be a bad bad thing

Would have been better served going to GA

[donkdown]

My ? is why his wife Jackie also??

[The Seer]

doubt they are in heaven since they committed suicide

[Brock Landers]

doubt they are in heaven since they committed suicide

purgatory for eternity

[pavyracer]

doubt they are in heaven since they committed suicide

+1

[Extra Innings]

All I got to say is a suicide is investigated by the police....to the degree a homicide is.

The determination was made in less than 48 hours as to cause of death.

[minet123]

gambling can be a bad bad thing

Would have been better served going to GA

Brock he was in AA with 2 years sober
GA is a joke(as we all Post here) and for compulsive moron slot players
None of this makes any sense

[Brock Landers]

Brock he was in AA with 2 years sober GA is a joke(as we all Post here) and for compulsive moron slot players None of this makes any sense

GA uses the principles from AA.

[minet123]

GA uses the principles from AA.

DUH
As someone who has been to both NA and GA
GA is a joke...in my area(5 meetings in the 5th largest metropolitan area)
still I had some conversations about recovery with him and "big book" thumpers usually don't commit suicide
makes no sense

[capitalist pig]

I smell sheeite as well....

I am assuming they had insurance------for their next of kin----why double suicide to null out those policies?

And another question--------double suicide and no media anywhere?

Life insurance usually covers suicide as long as the policy has been in effect for 2 + years. I actually know a guy who planned it out and did it so his family would be financially set. Personally I dont believe anything posted on these forums, way to many people just looking for attention,JMO.

later

[BatemanPatrickl]

Life insurance usually covers suicide as long as the policy has been in effect for 2 + years. I actually know a guy who planned it out and did it so his family would be financially set. Personally I dont believe anything posted on these forums, way to many people just looking for attention,JMO.

later

I always thought policies were not paid out if the holders commit suicide.

[Brock Landers]

I always thought policies were not paid out if the holders commit suicide.

2 year limit on that, i know personally as my wife's 1st husband pulled the old hose to the tail pipe suicide in 97, and she was paid off for everything, house, life insurance, pensions...

[Scorpion]

I doubt its suicide
Its been 4 days and there is nothing on the internet news about this, and why would his wife commit suicide??

[Scorpion]

Joe Crouch had his business, a house,... but did all of this because of his gambling debts

http://investigation.discovery.com/tv-schedules/series.html?paid=141.15379.125388.36203.x

Apr 10, 8:00 pm

(60 minutes) I (Almost) Got Away With It
Got To Sing Karaoke
TV-14 (DLSV), CC

Joe Crouch wakes up one morning, and after 40 years of marriage, shoots his wife while she sleeps. He flees to Florida and embraces his fugitive life. He funds his hobbies by robbing banks. It is his love of karaoke that gets him caught.

[GELATINOUS CUBE]

No, it's "Carbon Monoxide flavored Sleeping Pills"

Maybe they exist? I dunno...

[GELATINOUS CUBE]

Hopefully he's in Asia growing a beard. I know Oddsmaker was based in Malaysia or something. It would be possible. A lot of Westerners move to Asia. I dunno.

[pimike]

All I got to say is a suicide is investigated by the police....to the degree a homicide is.

The determination was made in less than 48 hours as to cause of death.

Not true

[Extra Innings]

Not true

Well you're in the field so I'll defer to you. Tell me when someone is found to commit suicide how do the authorities respond? In the case of a double-suicide...How does one delineate when and when not to conduct an investigation?

[Chuck Sims]

A good homicide detective said he first looks at a dead body as a homicide, then accident, last is suicide.

Bad police work to look at a dead body and say, "suicide case closed". How embarrassing is it to look at a dead women in bed, gun at her side, and say suicide, then send the body to the morgue. Only to have the coroner call to say, this lady has two bullets in her head, its a homicide. I watch Forensics Files.

[BigdaddyQH]

Okay Junior Detectives. Here is where we stand. The "cause of death" does not necessairily indicate who committed the crime. "Cause of Death" was preliminarily set at an Overdose of Pills and Carbon Moxoide Poisoning. Who did this remains to be determined. I would be questioning the fact that two methods were used to commit suicide. That is rarely, if ever done.

Next, do we have anyone outside the family that has stated that they actually saw the bodies? Who said that the Coroner or Medical Examiner said that the cause of death was a suicide, or actually named the cause of death. Has there been any independant confirmation of these deaths, or are we just suppose to believe what the family is telling us.

Next, was this guy involved in illegal activities? Many think he ratted out some off shore casinos. Is that true? The problem with going into the witness protection program is that you do have to appear and testify against the bad guys. That means that a story about you being deceased would be blown apart when you appeared to testify. So my guess is that they are really dead. The method of death has been established. Whether or not this was a suicide or not remains to be seen.

[obamaismyuncle]

Okay Junior Detectives. Here is where we stand. The "cause of death" does not necessairily indicate who committed the crime. "Cause of Death" was preliminarily set at an Overdose of Pills and Carbon Moxoide Poisoning. Who did this remains to be determined. I would be questioning the fact that two methods were used to commit suicide. That is rarely, if ever done.

Next, do we have anyone outside the family that has stated that they actually saw the bodies? Who said that the Coroner or Medical Examiner said that the cause of death was a suicide, or actually named the cause of death. Has there been any independant confirmation of these deaths, or are we just suppose to believe what the family is telling us.

Next, was this guy involved in illegal activities? Many think he ratted out some off shore casinos. Is that true? The problem with going into the witness protection program is that you do have to appear and testify against the bad guys. That means that a story about you being deceased would be blown apart when you appeared to testify. So my guess is that they are really dead. The method of death has been established. Whether or not this was a suicide or not remains to be seen.

This is what I would like to know.

[OmgUrMom]

doubt they are in heaven since they committed suicide

even more likely heaven doesn't exist at all

[Extra Innings]

Thanks BigDaddy...always nice to hear from an expert.

[tltaylor89]

Foul play going.

[tltaylor89]

That was the fastest tox screen I have seen in my life.