Just went huge on SF -150. GL guys, let's go Giants!
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future HOFer Brian Matusz is #3 behind Millwood and Guthrie...Originally posted by Art VandelayComment -
Zito could be a better change of pace from LincecumComment -
Matusz future HOFer? Please, he's made like 3 starts in the bigs.Originally posted by RufusComment -
he no hit the phils starting lineup through 5 2/3 this spring.Comment -
the guy's gonna be a beast. he knows how to pitch and he's only--what--22?Comment -
Why do you like the Giants so much?Originally posted by Lakers714Comment -
Spring training really don't mean much to me. So that means liriano is a lock for the HOF right?Originally posted by RufusComment -
Look at Matusz's minor league numbersComment -
What's not to like about the Giants tomorrow??? Cain is a legit #2, the giants have improved on offense, and they have a solid bullpen. The Stros have an over the hill berkman and Carlos lee has been on the decline. Oh yeah, Pabloooooo.Originally posted by RufusComment -
big price to lay on the road early in the seasonOriginally posted by Lakers714Comment -
Dood, I know who matusz is and what he's CAPABLE of doing, but let's not jump the gun and say he's a lock for the HOF yet. Lmao... You're telling me that just cuz the guy had awesome minor league stats and had a great spring, he's all of a sudden a lock for the HOF? So we should alreay pencil in matt weiters too right? What I'm getting at is I need to see a bigger sample size, maybe like a succesful full season, before I start saying that a ball player is a lock for the HOF. Get real man.Originally posted by RufusComment -
Wieters has a long swing. He's won't live up to the hypeComment -
Tillman, another top O's prospect, won't live up to expectations. Not with his extreme FB rate at Camden YardsComment -
on SF tooComment -
I'm not saying I'd bet on Matusz to make the HOF at even money or anything. I just think he's the real deal. I've had to deal with too many "throwers" like Liz, Cabrera, Loewen, etc as an O's fan. Its nice to have two young guys who know how to pitch in the rotation (Matusz and Bergesen)Comment -
Ok, u win bro. Lol, matusz is a lock for the HOF. Have u heard of a guy named kershaw??? He's pretty good as well and has already proven it on the big stage and he's only 21 but he's def not a lock to get into the HOF.Originally posted by RufusComment -
My big sleeper in that rotation though is David Hernandez. Excellent minor league K rates at every level. He'll do much better than his stint last season.Comment -
I like Kershaw. He doesn't have the same feel for the game that Matusz doesOriginally posted by Lakers714Comment -
It seems like everyone expects these young pitchers with above average BB rates (i.e. Kershaw) to be able to improve on them, to be able to learn how to pitch.Comment -
Originally posted by Rufus
now you didn't say that now? Isn't that the reason why were having this conversation??? U really gotta get rid of that hometown bias if u wanna make it in this game.
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i bet for a living. the orioles are the only chance i get to be a little emotional and irrationally exuberant...and thats as long as i'm not against them that dayComment -
Because it puts a soft-tossing lefty between the two hard throwing righties. Both Zito and Cain will benefit from this arrangement.Originally posted by Art VandelayComment -
So now you're saying that a pitcher has to be born with good control. Yeah, you're right. You don't have control when you're young, you're never gonna haveOriginally posted by Rufus
it. Lol, who r u??? And WTF r u talking about? Baseball right?Comment -
give me an example of a guy who started his career really wild and put it all together. besides randy johnsonComment -
So you don't like the SF play tomorrow Rufus? Why???Comment -
For every Randy Johnson, there are 10 Daniel CabrerasComment -
I have nothing against it personally. I'm just on the other side
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Originally posted by suicidekings
i agreeComment -
i had then tuesday was thinkin sweep tooComment -
The numbers my model spit out said that I don't like it. I think Matt Cain is a very solid pitcher. But I don't like him at that price.Comment -
Power pitchers r gonna give up HRs and walks especially when they're younger. Kershaw is a power pitcher. His K/BOB ratio isn't that bad for his age. It's called development.Originally posted by RufusComment -
Oh, you're one of those guys... System plays??? Am I wrong?Originally posted by RufusComment -
I'm arguing that that particular skill is not one that will develop that much with age. Like walk rates for hitters...yes there is an age factor, but plate discipline is more innate than learnedOriginally posted by Lakers714Comment
