Why does Fenway park have a big wall in left field?

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  • pavyracer
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 04-12-07
    • 82874

    #1
    Why does Fenway park have a big wall in left field?
    Is it to make fly balls turn into doubles? This one I don't understand.
  • Chi_archie
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-22-08
    • 63172

    #2
    I think that was all the more room they had on their property..... big road behind it
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    • Brock Landers
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 06-30-08
      • 45359

      #3
      park is a total dump and that is the novelty part of it, no more rhyme or reason than that.
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      • bobbyfk
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        • 01-19-09
        • 15218

        #4
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        • GiveMeaBJ
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 09-08-09
          • 8449

          #5
          They just went over this Pavy. It is because of the road behind it and that is the exact angle the street runs. They had to make the wall humungous otherwise the o/u would be set at 16.5.
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          • pavyracer
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 04-12-07
            • 82874

            #6
            Originally posted by Chi_archie
            I think that was all the more room they had on their property..... big road behind it
            Thanks Archie. I didn't know the history of the ballpark.
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            • GiveMeaBJ
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 09-08-09
              • 8449

              #7
              Originally posted by bobbyfk
              Thanks for clearing up which wall he was talking about Bob.
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              • Chi_archie
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-22-08
                • 63172

                #8
                also back in the day they made alot of high walls to prevent people in apartment buildings (like wrigley) from getting a free view.....
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                • Boner_18
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 08-24-08
                  • 8301

                  #9
                  Yeah, when they bought the property Landsdown St. was there and couldn't be moved. This park is a joke. Don't get me wrong I grew up going to Sox games more than Yankees games but the place is hole. The Sox are a world class baseball team should move into the modern era.
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                  • stealthyburrito
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 05-12-09
                    • 21562

                    #10
                    the wall has become so synonymous with the sox they'll never get rid of it

                    i do agree fenway is strange park
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                    • big joe 1212
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 06-01-08
                      • 19380

                      #11
                      Why do baseball parks get to have their own dimensions when every other sport is universal for every team?

                      They should require all new stadiums that are built to have specific dimensions. (except Colorado of course)
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                      • Brock Landers
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 06-30-08
                        • 45359

                        #12
                        Originally posted by big joe 1212
                        Why do baseball parks get to have their own dimensions when every other sport is universal for every team? They should require all new stadiums that are built to have specific dimensions. (except Colorado of course)
                        it makes baseball unique, but this is a very good question as to why there are no standards. I believe there is a rule on how short the distance can be, but not how long.
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                        • whatsgood5
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                          • 10-13-09
                          • 15359

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Chi_archie
                          I think that was all the more room they had on their property..... big road behind it
                          Went to a game there quite a while ago, remember that road, never struck me 'til now that that was why they have the Green Monster though, can't believe I didn't put 2 and 2 together on that one...
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                          • Extra Innings
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                            • 02-26-10
                            • 15058

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Brock Landers
                            park is a total dump and that is the novelty part of it, no more rhyme or reason than that.
                            Shame on you.
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                            • Boner_18
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 08-24-08
                              • 8301

                              #15
                              Only place where they sell tickets for seats directly behind a friggin steel I-bar. Fvckin dump.
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                              • thebestthereis
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 03-01-09
                                • 11459

                                #16
                                Landsdowne street is full of drunk idiots, how the hell else do keep them out?
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                                • IrishTim
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 07-23-09
                                  • 983

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                  Is it to make fly balls turn into doubles? This one I don't understand.
                                  It took away a HR from A-Rod the other night. I'm sure it had more to do with the stadium being in the middle of the city of Boston.
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                                  • superjeff24
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 03-17-10
                                    • 1078

                                    #18
                                    part of what makes baseball awesome is different parks. it's home field advantage. not like hockey where all they can do is make soft spots so that they can take advantage of cheezy bounces.
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                                    • tltaylor89
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                                      • 06-19-09
                                      • 19610

                                      #19
                                      Pujols will get a few balls over that wall this year.
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                                      • AMBlai01
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 09-16-08
                                        • 5882

                                        #20
                                        I thought the other original reason was not just because of the street but because of winds....there is a huge wind that come sin from that angle, or did I believe. I could be wrong on that though...
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                                        • adlai
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 03-11-10
                                          • 778

                                          #21
                                          It's big to compensate for the short left field. No other reason than that, this is common New England knowledge, ask any Sox fan up here.
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                                          • yisman
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 09-01-08
                                            • 75682

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by tltaylor89
                                            Pujols will get a few balls over that wall this year.
                                            I don't think Pujols is likely to play too many games in Fenway.


                                            As for the different ballparks, I like it. It's part of homefield advantage to have unique dimensions, walls, grass, etc.
                                            [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                            [/quote]

                                            [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                            • yisman
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 09-01-08
                                              • 75682

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by adlai
                                              It's big to compensate for the short left field. No other reason than that, this is common New England knowledge, ask any Sox fan up here.
                                              Of course it's big to compensate for the wall being too far in, but that really has very little to do with this thread.

                                              The real answer here is what was stated by several posters; that left field had to be short due to the area they were allocated. That led to them building a "monster" of a wall.
                                              [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                              [/quote]

                                              [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                              • cala56
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-25-10
                                                • 4231

                                                #24
                                                I think fenway park i horrible and to old, is time for a new one
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                                                • Cookie Monster
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-05-08
                                                  • 2251

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by stealthyburrito
                                                  the wall has become so synonymous with the sox they'll never get rid of it
                                                  Detroit also had a classical park, and it got dumped. It depends on the owner, Detroit team said that the Tiger stadium was bad, while Boston and Chicago highlight the "baseball shrine" side of theirs.
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                                                  • fsugolf
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 07-17-09
                                                    • 6194

                                                    #26
                                                    do they rebuild a new green monster if they build a new stadium?
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                                                    • podunk
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-12-09
                                                      • 3455

                                                      #27
                                                      queer as shit
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                                                      • Andy117
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 02-07-10
                                                        • 9511

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by fsugolf
                                                        do they rebuild a new green monster if they build a new stadium?
                                                        Probably wouldn't be allowed to by MLB. There are minimum distances that would be enforced now.
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                                                        • ZetaPsi808
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 09-18-08
                                                          • 12119

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                          I think that was all the more room they had on their property..... big road behind it
                                                          CHI, i dont get this explanation. someone care to elaborate?
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                                                          • yisman
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 09-01-08
                                                            • 75682

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by ZetaPsi808
                                                            CHI, i dont get this explanation. someone care to elaborate?
                                                            they only had a certain amount of land to work with when they built it.
                                                            [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                            [/quote]

                                                            [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                            • Chi_archie
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 07-22-08
                                                              • 63172

                                                              #31
                                                              Imagine if we still had some of the other stadiums around that are as old as this one..... look up the dimensions at the polo grounds where the NY Giants played and where Willie Mays made the incredible over the shoulder catch...it may have been one of the worst places to play baseball in ever.... it was really for other sports...


                                                              or Forbes Field where the Pirates played and Maz hit the walk off game 7 homer...it had some crazy dimensions too...


                                                              It would really suck to try to "standardize" ballparks.... that is basically what you had in the 80's with places like Riverfront, three rivers, vetern stadium, ect. ugly turf shells with no charm... blah
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                                                              • Andy117
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 02-07-10
                                                                • 9511

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by ZetaPsi808
                                                                CHI, i dont get this explanation. someone care to elaborate?
                                                                Landsdowne St is directly behind the wall. They'd have had to extend the park into the street to have a normal distance/wall. When the park was built that wasn't an option available to them.
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                                                                • Brock Landers
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 06-30-08
                                                                  • 45359

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                                  Imagine if we still had some of the other stadiums around that are as old as this one..... look up the dimensions at the polo grounds where the NY Giants played and where Willie Mays made the incredible over the shoulder catch...it may have been one of the worst places to play baseball in ever.... it was really for other sports...


                                                                  or Forbes Field where the Pirates played and Maz hit the walk off game 7 homer...it had some crazy dimensions too...


                                                                  It would really suck to try to "standardize" ballparks.... that is basically what you had in the 80's with places like Riverfront, three rivers, vetern stadium, ect. ugly turf shells with no charm... blah
                                                                  how about the LA Coliseum when the dodgers first moved to LA

                                                                  As originally configured in 1958, the Coliseum was only 250 feet to the left-field "screen" … which was 40 feet high. Deepest right-center field was 440 from the plate. Straightaway right field was a long ways away, too. It was barely 300 feet to the foul pole down the right-field line, but the fence extended out so quickly that it didn't do the hitters any good. According to Dodgers statistician Allan Roth's records, in 1958 only nine homers were hit in 77 games at the Coliseum.
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                                                                  • Andy117
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 02-07-10
                                                                    • 9511

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                                    Imagine if we still had some of the other stadiums around that are as old as this one..... look up the dimensions at the polo grounds where the NY Giants played and where Willie Mays made the incredible over the shoulder catch...it may have been one of the worst places to play baseball in ever.... it was really for other sports...


                                                                    or Forbes Field where the Pirates played and Maz hit the walk off game 7 homer...it had some crazy dimensions too...


                                                                    It would really suck to try to "standardize" ballparks.... that is basically what you had in the 80's with places like Riverfront, three rivers, vetern stadium, ect. ugly turf shells with no charm... blah
                                                                    Look at the dimensions of the LA Coliseum




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                                                                    • Andy117
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 02-07-10
                                                                      • 9511

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                                                      how about the LA Coliseum when the dodgers first moved to LA

                                                                      As originally configured in 1958, the Coliseum was only 250 feet to the left-field "screen" … which was 40 feet high. Deepest right-center field was 440 from the plate. Straightaway right field was a long ways away, too. It was barely 300 feet to the foul pole down the right-field line, but the fence extended out so quickly that it didn't do the hitters any good. According to Dodgers statistician Allan Roth's records, in 1958 only nine homers were hit in 77 games at the Coliseum.
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