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  • OMGRandyJackson
    SBR MVP
    • 02-07-10
    • 1680

    #1
    Freeplay Question
    Okay so I have a few quick questions about the freeplay. I am considering buying the $50 freeplay at Wagerchief from the SBR store.

    Do they let you split the bet. Like say team a plays team b. Will they let me put say $27 of the freeplay on team a and $23 of the freeplay on team b?
  • GamblingMike
    SBR MVP
    • 05-05-07
    • 2565

    #2
    LOL, no, that woulld be clear Free Play abuse!
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    • robmpink
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 01-09-07
      • 13205

      #3
      Is that free play abuse? You are basically giving away 1/2 of your freeplay.
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      • OMGRandyJackson
        SBR MVP
        • 02-07-10
        • 1680

        #4
        Would hedging the free play on the same book be in violation as well lol?
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        • robmpink
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-09-07
          • 13205

          #5
          don't know.
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          • GamblingMike
            SBR MVP
            • 05-05-07
            • 2565

            #6
            Yeah but that guarantees unless it is a push that he will have some money put into his cash account and Free Plays are only supposed to give you a chance to have money put into your cash account and not guarantee it.
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            • GamblingMike
              SBR MVP
              • 05-05-07
              • 2565

              #7
              Originally posted by OMGRandyJackson
              Would hedging the free play on the same book be in violation as well lol?
              LOL, I don't know.
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              • OMGRandyJackson
                SBR MVP
                • 02-07-10
                • 1680

                #8
                lol oh well. ill just hedge somewhere else lol.
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                • whatsgood5
                  Restricted User
                  • 10-13-09
                  • 15359

                  #9
                  Originally posted by GamblingMike
                  Yeah but that guarantees unless it is a push that he will have some money put into his cash account and Free Plays are only supposed to give you a chance to have money put into your cash account and not guarantee it.
                  Just curious, is this written in print somewhere, or just an unwritten rule?
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                  • SBR Lou
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 08-02-07
                    • 37863

                    #10
                    WagerChief has confirmed that this is not allowed.
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                    • OMGRandyJackson
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-07-10
                      • 1680

                      #11
                      Originally posted by CrazyLou
                      WagerChief has confirmed that this is not allowed.
                      What splitting the free play and basically boxing the game? I read the rules for freeplay and could not see it anywhere. If this is not allowed they should have it placed under the rules. Because to someone who does not know that, (like me, before I checked), that would be really unfair to have it voided.
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                      • GamblingMike
                        SBR MVP
                        • 05-05-07
                        • 2565

                        #12
                        Originally posted by whatsgood5
                        Just curious, is this written in print somewhere, or just an unwritten rule?
                        Well, it is written in print at lots of books that you cannot split up Free Plays and Cash Bonus money into two different bets to guarantee or increase chances of converting into cash or to meet rollover requirements.
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                        • Doug
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 08-10-05
                          • 6324

                          #13
                          It is a foolish bet, and should be allowed, but rarely is.
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                          • UntilTheNDofTimE
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 05-29-08
                            • 9285

                            #14
                            What broke back fuk hedges off a 50 freeplay on a 4-8x rollover? what are you then going to withdraw 38 bucks once you finish hedging it off?


                            I did this with 1250 but not $50
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                            • KingKolzig
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 02-02-10
                              • 5550

                              #15
                              freeplays are only good to use for parlays cause the freeplay amount wagered of course isnt included in the winnings but it is included "inside" the parlay. what i mean is a in a 4 team parlay you still get payed 10:1, where as in a wager you would lose the amount risked the first time and that would cut your winnings in half by the 4th game played:

                              on a $50 fp straight wager:

                              0 to make $47
                              $47 to make $44
                              $91 to make $85
                              $176 to make $236 about, going 4-0

                              $50 fp parlay at 4 teams:

                              0 to make $600, going 4-0 HUGE DIFFERENCE


                              so the best thing to do is break the fp into 4 team parlays.
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                              • KingKolzig
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 02-02-10
                                • 5550

                                #16
                                so straight wagers about $400 total, parlays $600 total
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                                • OMGRandyJackson
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-07-10
                                  • 1680

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by UntilTheNDofTimE
                                  What broke back fuk hedges off a 50 freeplay on a 4-8x rollover? what are you then going to withdraw 38 bucks once you finish hedging it off?


                                  I did this with 1250 but not $50
                                  Calm down dude was just asking a question.
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                                  • Wagerchief
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 09-23-09
                                    • 135

                                    #18
                                    Hi Guys,

                                    Hope all is well , sorry I have not been on much but as you all know this is a very bust time of the year for us.

                                    To answer this question we do NOT allow betting both teams in one game with your freeplay .

                                    If you have any questions feel free to call us and ask for Jon.

                                    Have a great day

                                    WagerChief

                                    FREE PAYOUTS , CASH BONUSES , GREAT SERVICE
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                                    • OMGRandyJackson
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-07-10
                                      • 1680

                                      #19
                                      Thank you for the info WagerChief.

                                      Also so say I wager the whole $50 on a 3-1 payout and it hits for $100. (150-50 freeplay). When I wager that $100 is it the same rule? Like if I wager that $100 on another 3-1 payout and it hits for $300. Do I get $300 or $200 (300-100bet)?
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                                      • whatsgood5
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 10-13-09
                                        • 15359

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by OMGRandyJackson
                                        Thank you for the info WagerChief. Also so say I wager the whole $50 on a 3-1 payout and it hits for $100. (150-50 freeplay). When I wager that $100 is it the same rule? Like if I wager that $100 on another 3-1 payout and it hits for $300. Do I get $300 or $200 (300-100bet)?
                                        You can't wager the FREEPLAY on something more than + or -200.
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                                        • OMGRandyJackson
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-07-10
                                          • 1680

                                          #21
                                          I know I am just saying as an example....Are the results from the freeplay, still a freeplay? So what ever I win on the freeplay, when I wager that, is the wager lost when i win?
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                                          • whatsgood5
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 10-13-09
                                            • 15359

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by OMGRandyJackson
                                            I know I am just saying as an example....Are the results from the freeplay, still a freeplay? So what ever I win on the freeplay, when I wager that, is the wager lost when i win?
                                            Sorry, that wasn't direct to you, was saying it to Kolzig.

                                            The amount placed on the bet is not given back if you win.

                                            For example, if you bet $50 free-play to win $40, and you win, you'll have $40 cash in your acct.
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                                            • OMGRandyJackson
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-07-10
                                              • 1680

                                              #23
                                              ok so than if I bet that $40 cash to win $30, and I win, I will have $70 cash now?
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                                              • KingKolzig
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 02-02-10
                                                • 5550

                                                #24
                                                how would u ever get payed if that was your logic lol.......you could get your account up to a billion dollars but none of it would be cash lol
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                                                • KingKolzig
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 02-02-10
                                                  • 5550

                                                  #25
                                                  best thing to do is make 5 parlays at $10 each. because freeplay straight wagers you lose the risked amount. but in a parlay you still lose the risked $10 amount, but inside the parlay (3 teamer) the risked amount still multiplies and pays 6:1
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                                                  • OMGRandyJackson
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-07-10
                                                    • 1680

                                                    #26
                                                    I am new to all of this, and there are so many rules lol, so I just want to make sure I got everything understood, that is all!
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                                                    • KingKolzig
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 02-02-10
                                                      • 5550

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by OMGRandyJackson
                                                      I am new to all of this, and there are so many rules lol, so I just want to make sure I got everything understood, that is all!
                                                      no kidding its scary that books can go back and give you a hassle over something that their software allowed..........but the 3 team parlays are the way to go with a free play. just break it up into 5 $10 parlays. then when it is turned into cash you should do straight wagers
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                                                      • OMGRandyJackson
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-07-10
                                                        • 1680

                                                        #28
                                                        yah exactly, I don't wanna make a bet that the software allows only to find out it breaks some rule lol.
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