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  • SamsNCharge99
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-22-08
    • 41242

    #1
    WARNING: Only Bet Offshore. Local Stiffs My Friend $3900
    Wassup boys, so I wake up, check my phone and get this text message from my buddy at college. He goes to Penn St. and as a local out there. He has been using this guy for about 9 months now. Every other week payments and not 1 problem yet. The most in 2 weeks he has lost was $1300 and paid, the most he won in 2 weeks was $1000 and got paid.

    Going into yesterday, he was down $165.22. So, I get the text and it just says, **** LOCALS and to check me email. I check my email and there is a list of texts my buddy sent to local of all is bets yesterday, my buddy went 20-3 betting yesterday. 20-3

    He listed all his games w/ current figure next to them after the result
    All games at -110
    Morgan St. +17.5 ($250 to win $227.27) LOSS down $415.22 on week
    Xavier +1 ($250 to win $227.27) WIN down $187.95 on week
    Xavier -1 2nd half ($500 to win $454.55) WIN up $266.60 on week
    Missouri +1.5 ($250 to win $227.27) WIN up $493.87 on week
    Wofford +10 ($250 to win $227.27) WIN up $721.14 on week
    Pitt -9.5 ($250 to win $227.27) WIN up $948.41 on week
    Siena and Purdue OVER 71 2nd half ($250 to win $227.27) WIN up $1175.68
    Wofford +4 2nd half ($250 to win $227.27) WIN up $1402.95
    Pitt -3.5 2nd half ($250 to win $227.27) WIN up $1630.22

    After this text, local texts him saying you need to make sure you have money for all these bets. This was at 3:56 PM, must have been halftime for wofford and pitt, so guy had a lot of action going, but happen to win them all.

    So after the early set of games, my buddy is up $1630.22 going 8-1 early.


    He goes on......
    Texas A+M -3 ($250 to win $227.27) WIN up $1857.49
    A+M and Utah St. UNDER 71 2nd half ($250 to win $227.27) WIN up $2084.76
    Gonzaga +1 ($250 to win $227.27) WIN up $2312.03
    OK St. +1.5 ($250 to win $227.27) WIN up $2539.30
    Michigan St. ML (-1100) ($1100 to win $100) WIN up $2639.30
    Indiana Pacers -2 ($275 to win $250) WIN up $2889.30
    OK City -1 ($275 to win $250) WIN up $3139.30
    Atlanta Hawks ML (-240) ($600 to win $250) WIN up $3389.30
    Knicks -2.5 ($275 to win $250) WIN up $3639.30
    Cavs ML (-600) ($1500 to win $250) WIN up $3889.30
    Gonzaga and Fl. St. UNDER 69 2nd half ($250 to win $227.27) LOSS up $3639.30
    Knicks -1 2nd half ($250 to win $227.27) WIN up $3866.57
    Louisville +1 ($250 to win $227.27) LOSS up $3616.57
    Maryland ML (-525) ($1312.50 to win $250) WIN up $3866.57

    OVERALL, 20-3 on the day and +$4031.79 and for week $3866.57


    Guy texts him after late game and says he is not paying this ridiculous day. He bet too much money for his limit and some of those ML were ridiculous bets and what happened if he lost them.

    So they go back and forth and in the end, I guess my friend says he is getting STIFFED of the money he won.

    They had a great working relationship never having problems, then BOOM, dude goes 20-3 and had day of his life and gets STIFFED.

    Unreal boys

    I guess lesson is bet offshore
  • RealSlimShady
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 12-24-07
    • 6249

    #2
    Not always better, Sam. If you get stiffed by a local, you lose only your profits for the week. If an offshore book stiffs you, you lose your profits AND all of your initial deposit. Bottom line: Use someone trustworthy!
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    • Fishhead
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 08-11-05
      • 40179

      #3
      Most locals are honorable............
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      • Yi
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 03-19-09
        • 646

        #4
        that sucks, but wouldn't the locals be afraid of someone ratting them out after getting stiffed?
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        • milwaukee mike
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 08-22-07
          • 26914

          #5
          with bonuses and/or less juice there is no reason to use a local. first off you have the inherent legal problems, if you win big the guy can just say "i don't have to pay you it's illegal and who are you going to tell". and nobody from a reputable book is going to stiff you or show up at your house to collect.
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          • whatsgood5
            Restricted User
            • 10-13-09
            • 15359

            #6
            Originally posted by Fishhead
            Most locals are honorable............
            Agreed, looks like your friend didn't get an honorable one...
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            • RealSlimShady
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 12-24-07
              • 6249

              #7
              Originally posted by milwaukee mike
              with bonuses and/or less juice there is no reason to use a local. first off you have the inherent legal problems, if you win big the guy can just say "i don't have to pay you it's illegal and who are you going to tell". and nobody from a reputable book is going to stiff you or show up at your house to collect.

              One HUGE reason is lack of a paper trail. If you are a successful bettor, this is important.
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388179

                #8
                Guy must of been a small time non professional local, even that you must do your homework
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                • WileOut
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-04-07
                  • 3844

                  #9
                  It depends on where you live and the depth of your life devoted to gambling, but MOST people do not have access to reliable locals. You may find a local but they are most likely not reliable. The best way to get a local is to know friends who have gambled for over 10 years and know reliable bookies.
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                  • MadTiger
                    SBR MVP
                    • 04-19-09
                    • 2724

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jjgold
                    Guy must of been a small time non professional local, even that you must do your homework
                    Those upsets and covers beat his ass all the way around, not just the OP's boy.
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                    • pavyracer
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 04-12-07
                      • 82880

                      #11
                      There is a big difference in betting with a local from New York City and a local from Plattsville, NY. Lesson learned.
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                      • Dank_Fire
                        SBR MVP
                        • 05-13-09
                        • 2274

                        #12
                        What did your friend say when you told him you had Notre Dame winning your bracket?.....
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                        • Deuce
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 01-12-08
                          • 29843

                          #13
                          Always happens when a clueless 20 something thinks he is a professional bookie.
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                          • acarmelo1
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 09-29-09
                            • 6321

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Deuce
                            Always happens when a clueless 20 something thinks he is a professional bookie.
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                            • Enogsiwon
                              Restricted User
                              • 06-15-09
                              • 4075

                              #15
                              Blessing in Disguise..

                              Your buddy (eer you) bets way too many games in a day and will eventually be in debt beyond belief.. Maybe now you'll stick to offshore books where you have to post up and only lose what you can come up with..
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                              • SamsNCharge99
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 10-22-08
                                • 41242

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Dank_Fire
                                What did your friend say when you told him you had Notre Dame winning your bracket?.....
                                I had em in final 4 in 1 of my brackets....big deal
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                                • SamsNCharge99
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-22-08
                                  • 41242

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                  There is a big difference in betting with a local from New York City and a local from Plattsville, NY. Lesson learned.
                                  this has nothing to do w/ me and were is Plattsville, NY??
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                                  • xxdjstriderxx
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 11-25-08
                                    • 4740

                                    #18
                                    no reason to play anywhere but vegas
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                                    • WileOut
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-04-07
                                      • 3844

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by xxdjstriderxx
                                      no reason to play anywhere but vegas
                                      Unless you are one of the 99% of the people who don't live in or near vegas.
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                                      • SamsNCharge99
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 10-22-08
                                        • 41242

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by xxdjstriderxx
                                        no reason to play anywhere but vegas


                                        or if your not 21 yet
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                                        • Deuce
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 01-12-08
                                          • 29843

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by WileOut
                                          Unless you are one of the 99% of the people who don't live in or near vegas.
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                                          • G's pks
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 01-01-09
                                            • 22251

                                            #22
                                            Sammy maybe because you went 3-20, the book just thought you would pay him.
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                                            • Vesuvius
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 02-19-08
                                              • 3886

                                              #23
                                              What are you going to do? Report the local?
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                                              • Extra Innings
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 02-26-10
                                                • 15058

                                                #24
                                                Would have been a lot in gas from Plattsburgh to Penn State either way.
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                                                • SamsNCharge99
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 10-22-08
                                                  • 41242

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Vesuvius
                                                  What are you going to do? Report the local?
                                                  no, the point is, dont play w/ locals
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                                                  • dee_jas
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 12-09-08
                                                    • 760

                                                    #26
                                                    What happened to using internet books?
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                                                    • THE PROFIT
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 11-27-09
                                                      • 17701

                                                      #27
                                                      I would call the authorities as soon as possible! Need the #?

                                                      Sam, when you grow up you may understand the ways of the world a little more. I would trust using a local 10x more than offshore.

                                                      When a bookie owes me money he's very motivated to pay because we're both local & ONSHORE
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                                                      • ProfaneReality
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 04-14-09
                                                        • 7607

                                                        #28
                                                        Good advice, only play offshore. They never stiff. ever.
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                                                        • PittsburghPlayer
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 01-11-10
                                                          • 6760

                                                          #29
                                                          This is simple, your friend needs someone to do a "job" for him.
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                                                          • diamond
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 02-09-06
                                                            • 3636

                                                            #30
                                                            Sounds like this local bookie is .......YOU SAMMY.
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                                                            • SamsNCharge99
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 10-22-08
                                                              • 41242

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by diamond
                                                              Sounds like this local bookie is .......YOU SAMMY.
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                                                              • GiveMeaBJ
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 09-08-09
                                                                • 8449

                                                                #32
                                                                I think a mod should be able to help you out with this and get you paid.


                                                                If that doesn't work Sammy I will collect for 50%.
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                                                                • PittsburghPlayer
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 01-11-10
                                                                  • 6760

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by GiveMeaBJ
                                                                  I think a mod should be able to help you out with this and get you paid.
                                                                  If that doesn't work Sammy I will collect for 50%.
                                                                  That`s what I`m talking about. Way to step up man.
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                                                                  • kmarinouofm
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 01-26-09
                                                                    • 8437

                                                                    #34
                                                                    the guy is out 4k ?? thats simple.. u can hire muscle these days for a few hundo..

                                                                    back home i know this gorilla that i grew up with.. if i give him between 200-400 bucks depending on the situation.. i can just drop him off at any location and he will turn you into hamburger meat.. no questions.. no words.. u point the guy out or give him a name and address and he just goes to work... I have only witnessed it once.. and it was brutal...

                                                                    Imagine u are just minding your business .. don't even know or recognize a guy... and then BLAM!!! POP!! BOOM!! you are down...
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                                                                    • yomillionaire
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 11-01-08
                                                                      • 919

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Would anyone care to share a local reliable bookie via PM? Been looking would appreciate a recommendation.
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