Penn State is #12 in first poll

[TPowell]

So the team that lost on the road to Pittsburgh and got beat by Michigan by 39 points is #12? The 3 point home win over Minnesota was impressive I guess. Lets be honest though, PSU has been straight garbage all year up until the last couple weeks when they've started getting healthy. Again, lets be honest, Penn State is #12 to make OSU's loss to them not look so bad and stay ahead of teams like Louisville

[seaborneq]

Agreed. OSU hasn't looked good in over a month

[unde0087]

Powell the Big 10 is this year version of the last few years of the SEC. We see teams highly ranked for no apparant reason. 3 or 4 weeks from now teams like Penn St and Nebraska will have 3 or 4 losses and will not be heard from again just like Ole Miss and Miss St in recent years. They have to jam the fraud teams up there so they can tell us how great the conference is.

[jjgold]

Penn St had guys out and it might of fooled most of us

Any expert probably knew they were tough when healthy

[jtoler]

Who should be ahead of them?

[M.W.]

LSU, Oklahoma, Colorado, Virginia Tech to name a few.

[jtoler]

LSU, Oklahoma, Colorado, Virginia Tech to name a few.

Have any of those teams beaten a ranked team other than VTech. The timing of the loss seems to matter alot, you can make up ground losing early. VTech got blew out by Syracuse.

[funnyb25]

I like this team...

[funnyb25]

Gimme the Hawkeyes + this weekend though

[reigle9]

First lol @ the conspiracy. Your QB is the biggest star in cfb...

Second, you answered your own question. Why are you penalizing them for looking like shit when they're down to walk-on players getting injured for the year and having to burn a redshirt cause they literally didn't have any more lb's.

Defense is night and day since bell, cabinda, and cothran are back. Bell had 18 tackles in his first game back against osu and cabinda has combined for 22 in his first 2 games back.

Offense is also night and day now that trace is running.

They're a pretty good team.

[TPowell]

First lol @ the conspiracy. Your QB is the biggest star in cfb...

Second, you answered your own question. Why are you penalizing them for looking like shit when they're down to walk-on players getting injured for the year and having to burn a redshirt cause they literally didn't have any more lb's.

Defense is night and day since bell, cabinda, and cothran are back. Bell had 18 tackles in his first game back against osu and cabinda has combined for 22 in his first 2 games back.

Offense is also night and day now that trace is running.

They're a pretty good team.

You get beat by PITTSBURGH and blown out by 25+ points to ANYONE, you don't belong anywhere near the top 15. They struggled like hell last week in the first half against Purdue as well.

[INVEGA MAN]

All I know is I have them over 7 wins. easy winner