Anyone beating the sbr racebook for big points?

[mproud1]

Dear SBR,

Please close the races EARLIER; this way people won't get pissed when they win & don't get paid. They will be shut out & naturally make their bets earlier.

THANKS!

[Marginalis]

Why don't you pay the people you owe?

this.

[jjgold]

Its the software you fukkin nit wits not SBR trying to cheat you

SBR spends more money on the fukkin bash than 50 guys combined net worth here

There are not worried about fukkin points

Common now

cut the shit

[SBR Lou]

Dear SBR,

Please close the races EARLIER; this way people won't get pissed when they win & don't get paid. They will be shut out & naturally make their bets earlier.

THANKS!

It's not possible currently. DGS is aware of the issue, it's a software deal, in a conversation with them earlier today they stated that in their next release this will be possible. No ETA on that yet.

[wtf]

Its the software you fukkin nit wits not SBR trying to cheat you SBR spends more money on the fukkin bash than 50 guys combined net worth here There are not worried about fukkin points Common now cut the shit

dear mr. needle dick, i am not blaming sbr, it is free anyway and entertainment

BUT

they are clearing the wagers via these "grade A" books and a reflection of their platforms, once again confirming they are thieves and will use any opportunity to fleece their customers

[BGboothA]

I have only had 1 bet returned thus far as well. All others were graded correctly

[INVEGA MAN]

this taught me to never bet horses off shore. if you do, you are crazy because its a no win situation with you. they should never take your bet if they are going to close it 2 minutes before a race. if you win or lose, you dont get your money. stay away from betting horses off shore for money. i am glad i tried this 1st before betting horse off shore.

[Richkas]

Bet early and often.

[jw]

stay away from betting horses off shore for money.

Unless you are playing at betmaker or betfair .. course that's only for win/place bets .. for pick 3/4/6's offshore (for the bonuses) or a US account at twinspires/youbet (for the free PP's and the video feeds) is your best option.

[SlickFazzer]

you need to pay attention to real post times at the track so have a legal usa shop at least to see how much time to post or watch live on tvg or TRN

good points.

[redsoxbos04]

its hard when u dont have programs or video for horse racing and programs for harness racing

[Jiggy Fly]

its hard when u dont have programs or video for horse racing and programs for harness racing

Very true.......You can buy a single program at dfr.com for 2.95 plus they have other options if you want more tracks.

[jw]

http://www.brisnet.com has PP's for a dollar per track or a maximum of $4 per day (if you want to play all tracks) .....

[INVEGA MAN]

tvg is also good but they charge you a quarter for each bet but they got a lot of good hadicappers and info there. plus you can bet right up until they are in the gate.

[Jiggy Fly]

http://www.brisnet.com has PP's for a dollar per track or a maximum of $4 per day (if you want to play all tracks) .....

Nice....will be using this for now on. How are the PP's? Just like dfr?

[jw]

Nice....will be using this for now on. How are the PP's? Just like dfr?

Pretty much .. I use the "Quick Play" PP's from there .... prefer them over DRF's .... Of course if you open a twinspires account .. you can get these for free if you bet just $2 at the meeting ... and you then get video with it too

[Grandmaster B]

*edit* SBR made it right

if you stopped the points system tomorrow some of these guys on here like mexican stallion might tell people they just got fired from a job and are now missing a source of income

[Grandmaster B]

Dear SBR,

Please close the races EARLIER; this way people won't get pissed when they win & don't get paid. They will be shut out & naturally make their bets earlier.

THANKS!

lmao...

[INVEGA MAN]

this is the point i am trying to make. if off shores take your bet like they did mine and the race did not go off. yet i hit and they graded it as a loss. it was really crazy because i bet a 81 dollar pick 4 and they graded it as a 60 dollar losss. lou pm me but he didnt even know what race the pk 4 was. you need the general who knows about horses to look into this. the other wild thing was that i had 3 chances to win the pk 4 and saw only one horse thaT COULD BEAT ME. SO TO PROTECT myself i bet 20 to win and lost that too. i bet off track and tvg,youbet, twin spires and express bet. so i know what i am talking about. then lou said this is how off shore is set up, i waid "wow". i dont want anyone to lost their cash if this is how it is set up. very scary indeed.

[Grandmaster B]

this is the point i am trying to make. if off shores take your bet like they did mine and the race did not go off. yet i hit and they graded it as a loss. it was really crazy because i bet a 81 dollar pick 4 and they graded it as a 60 dollar losss. lou pm me but he didnt even know what race the pk 4 was. you need the general who knows about horses to look into this. the other wild thing was that i had 3 chances to win the pk 4 and saw only one horse thaT COULD BEAT ME. SO TO PROTECT myself i bet 20 to win and lost that too. i bet off track and tvg,youbet, twin spires and express bet. so i know what i am talking about. then lou said this is how off shore is set up, i waid "wow". i dont want anyone to lost their cash if this is how it is set up. very scary indeed.

ahh...that CrazyL...*edit* he is a changed man!

not all books use this software...like I said bookmaker is one

[SBR Lou]

this is the point i am trying to make. if off shores take your bet like they did mine and the race did not go off. yet i hit and they graded it as a loss. it was really crazy because i bet a 81 dollar pick 4 and they graded it as a 60 dollar losss. lou pm me but he didnt even know what race the pk 4 was. you need the general who knows about horses to look into this. the other wild thing was that i had 3 chances to win the pk 4 and saw only one horse thaT COULD BEAT ME. SO TO PROTECT myself i bet 20 to win and lost that too. i bet off track and tvg,youbet, twin spires and express bet. so i know what i am talking about. then lou said this is how off shore is set up, i waid "wow". i dont want anyone to lost their cash if this is how it is set up. very scary indeed.

Invega,

I sent you a PM in the late evening, nobody that works for SBR has the racebook manager software installed on their home PC. It's ran from the SBR office. That is why I could not look further into your claim or identity the race until the morning.

At the time of your bet, we were not paying track odds yet. We were paying 21/1 on any exotic bet including Pick 4's, which was extremely too low, as I recall your wager was placed on day 1 or 2 of our racebook going live and our configuration was not yet polished. Now we are paying track odds on all races with a limit of 2K net per race. Your bets grossly exceeded the cap and the system function was thrown off, you can view all current info pertaining to limits at our Sportsbook Rules page.

Please send me an email (Lou@sbrnewsdesk.com) or PM so that we can straighten this out together, I can assure you that nobody here is looking to deprive you of any legitimate win.

[INVEGA MAN]

listen, i dont want the points. i am just trying to save someone else who might get screwed. i could care less about the points. i bet when there was a 2000 point limit and i hit for 2025. i do this for fun. but when u said that is how race book is set up, i couldnt believe it. lou, you didnt even know what race was a pk4. why the hell would i lie about points. but if i can help someone else from losing MONEY this way, then i will

[SBR Lou]

listen, i dont want the points. i am just trying to save someone else who might get screwed. i could care less about the points. i bet when there was a 2000 point limit and i hit for 2025. i do this for fun. but when u said that is how race book is set up, i couldnt believe it. lou, you didnt even know what race was a pk4. why the hell would i lie about points. but if i can help someone else from losing MONEY this way, then i will

Invega,

I apologize for any miscommunication, I've credited you the winnings. There indeed was a 2000 point limit, but the system didn't settle your wager properly due to the configuration at that time, this took some digging to identify. As mentioned at the time the racebook went live for initial play, there still was the chance that something unusual could occur.

Your wager helped us identity a software issue and we've now corrected it, nothing like this has reoccurred in the past week. I appreciate the feedback and hope that you continue to play in our racebook.

[Grandmaster B]

dont forget about me INVEGA...I see you got taken care off...pretty damn fast I might add

I dont want anything...just dont forget about me

[INVEGA MAN]

Lou, thanks but i didnt want to cause any problems but i feel i had to protect the guys who might think about playing for cash. i play the horses all the time. i got 200 dollars tied up in the field for the derby and will be in Vegas for the big show. i also have a shot for the place all today at santa anita with 3 races to go. i am so glad i can drop this subject about what happen. thanks again and you are all class.

[jw]

Nice conclusion ...

[davidchong]

the problem there is the two minutes that have sbr racebook ahead of usa horse racing time.

i have placed bets close to post time and they're voided (most of those loser), just place your bets two minutes prior the advertised time and your bets will be in action... good luck to all

[Grandmaster B]

I cant send pms for some reason...I try to send but it shows nothing in sentbox...here is what I was trying to reply

Im not going into detail but I had bets with points graded as a loss that were posted AFTER the official "post time" or whatever...and yes they were losers...if they were winners would the 'software' grade the tickets different?...hmm...who knows...well maybe you know a little more about that than me INVEGA.

Can you send me the race in question so I can review? We have a log of this kind of stuff, bets that are past post are voided.

Don't just assume that we won't correct something, I'd be happy to help you if an error was made,

Regards,
Lou

Ticket #: 104018
02/24/2010 07:21:51 PM
RAC
Racing ticket #1100

Ticket #: 104019
02/24/2010 07:22:04 PM
RAC
Racing ticket #1101

post time for the race was 7:21...tickets were graded as losers

it dosent matter its just points...but when I put my name out there I dont speak out of my ass you inquired so I just wanted to show you I am not a bullshitter..I am still unhappy I was denied a cash credit to bookmaker when I was granted the first request with the same info ive always had on record...wanna refund back the 600?...that will be the last request I make in exchange for points unless its for a tv...lol...anyhow

[Grandmaster B]

wow CrazyL took care of me...even though it just points that ill just bet for the hell of it point being he is taking care of people the best he can

and for that may he win all his tennis wagers this year

[jw]

Someone out there IS listening - whaddaya know ...

[Grandmaster B]

Someone out there IS listening - whaddaya know ...

I just bet em all on a total...lol

I wonder what INVEGA man did with his points

[davidchong]

It's not possible currently. DGS is aware of the issue, it's a software deal, in a conversation with them earlier today they stated that in their next release this will be possible. No ETA on that yet.

Actually betphoniex racebook closes by post time, like australian racing and few more.
same software..

[SBR Lou]

Actually betphoniex racebook closes by post time, like australian racing and few more. same software..

The message you quoted was in regard to a software function to close X minutes prior to post time, to provide extra insurance. What we have setup now is supposed to be closing right at post time. Yesterday there were only 8 races that were flagged as past post; eliminating the Australian tracks shaved down the number of late wagers. We also readjusted our server clock today, so we'll see if the time is even more accurate going forward.

[davidchong]

The message you quoted was in regard to a software function to close X minutes prior to post time, to provide extra insurance. What we have setup now is supposed to be closing right at post time. Yesterday there were only 8 races that were flagged as past post; eliminating the Australian tracks shaved down the number of late wagers. We also readjusted our server clock today, so we'll see if the time is even more accurate going forward.

with clock adjusted all will be ok, should not flag appear, even Australia...
good job lou..

[bluefish]

nope