Do you believe operating a TOUT SERVICE is 100% legal?

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  • Fishhead
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-11-05
    • 40179

    #1
    Do you believe operating a TOUT SERVICE is 100% legal?
    ??????????
  • Iona
    SBR MVP
    • 01-08-10
    • 4244

    #2
    Yes, because gambling is legal in Las Vegas.

    Also, I would guess that upon signing up with a service that you would sign some sort of document the states that sports wagering is illegal outwith the state of Nevada blah blah blah
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    • Reload
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-23-08
      • 12250

      #3
      As long as they are careful with all the "this information is for entertainment...and is never a sure thing...." fine print, they should be.
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      • THEGREAT30
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 10-04-08
        • 8970

        #4
        Good questions, would take some brainstorming but I'm quite sure that I could come up with an argument that goes against it being 100% legal if I cared to,good day
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        • AMBlai01
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 09-16-08
          • 5882

          #5
          It is legal because of all the reasons that are mentioned above. Many loopholes in that business.
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          • Boner_18
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-24-08
            • 8301

            #6
            Yep. 100%.
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            • Justin7
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 07-31-06
              • 8577

              #7
              As long as there is not profit sharing or a sheet where you take a piece of their losses, sure.
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              • minet123
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 02-17-07
                • 10280

                #8
                yes
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                • JoeVig
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 01-11-08
                  • 772

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Justin7
                  As long as there is not profit sharing or a sheet where you take a piece of their losses, sure.
                  Now that sounds like a business model: Take a cut of the winnings from a player, and then go refer them to a book and get a cut of their losses.
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                  • statnerds
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-23-09
                    • 4047

                    #10
                    yep. they are only selling information, what their clients choose to do with that information is not their concern or responsibility. and as long as they keep paying taxes to a government that can't get enough $$$$$, they're good.
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                    • Fishhead
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 08-11-05
                      • 40179

                      #11
                      Thanks for the responses, I'm always interested in what individuals have to say on this topic.
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                      • THE PROFIT
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 11-27-09
                        • 17701

                        #12
                        100% legal. They are selling an opinion. Same as a stockbroker, but a tout won't go to prison for giving inside information.
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                        • 1st and Ten
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 11-13-09
                          • 5131

                          #13
                          entertainment purposes only....a lot are based out of Nevada
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                          • whatsgood5
                            Restricted User
                            • 10-13-09
                            • 15359

                            #14
                            I really don't know too much about laws, but I have to believe with their fine print and whatnot like others have said, that this is perfectly legal.
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                            • jjgold
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388179

                              #15
                              Yes but they are all frauds

                              Did you ever hear a tout say they are under 55%??
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                              • Enogsiwon
                                Restricted User
                                • 06-15-09
                                • 4075

                                #16
                                Imagine if I somehow could pull these posters together..

                                King
                                Fishhead
                                Lakerboy
                                Pavyracer
                                Couple Others

                                If we ran a Tout Service we would surely show a nice profit..

                                Fishhead is too nice..
                                Pavyracer would rather doodle around all day with his Points..
                                I know Lakerboy is down for this, he won't admit it though..

                                Hopefully these guys will be guest writers on Kings Corner this year..
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                                • pokernut9999
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 07-25-07
                                  • 12757

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by THE PROFIT
                                  100% legal. They are selling an opinion. Same as a stockbroker, but a tout won't go to prison for giving inside information.

                                  Wrong , that is what the NBA referee went to prison for.
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                                  • INVEGA MAN
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 01-30-08
                                    • 6807

                                    #18
                                    yes, but they are all garbage. if they knew who was going to win, they wouldnt have to sell their picks would they
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                                    • 1st and Ten
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 11-13-09
                                      • 5131

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by pokernut9999


                                      Wrong , that is what the NBA referee went to prison for.
                                      But touts aren't officiating the games.
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                                      • whatsgood5
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 10-13-09
                                        • 15359

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                        Yes but they are all frauds Did you ever hear a tout say they are under 55%??
                                        That'd be a pretty poor marketing strategy
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                                        • pokernut9999
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 07-25-07
                                          • 12757

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by 1st and Ten
                                          But touts aren't officiating the games.
                                          Never said they were , giving out inside info is illegal.

                                          Touts give an opinion , highly doubt any have any inside info.

                                          If they knew anything more they would not be selling it.
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                                          • Rio DiNero
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 11-03-08
                                            • 2010

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by 1st and Ten
                                            But touts aren't officiating the games.
                                            If you find one that is let me know
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                                            • Doug
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 08-10-05
                                              • 6324

                                              #23
                                              I never heard of a tout getting busted.
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                                              • flyingillini
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 12-06-06
                                                • 41219

                                                #24
                                                We have many touts on SBR.
                                                המוסד‎
                                                המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                                                • eidolon
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 01-02-08
                                                  • 9531

                                                  #25
                                                  understanding how touts are such frauds, has really opened my eyes up to all businesses, and how they just want your cash, and will say anything to make you feel good about their product.
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                                                  • RAILBIRD
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 02-27-09
                                                    • 37

                                                    #26
                                                    yes
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                                                    • RAILBIRD
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 02-27-09
                                                      • 37

                                                      #27
                                                      I got a sales team just put together, commission only, going door to door sales.
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                                                      • fsugolf
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 07-17-09
                                                        • 6194

                                                        #28
                                                        touts are the same as stock brokers imo....so (not knowing the in's and outs of the legality) I would say yes it's legal
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                                                        • THE PROFIT
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 11-27-09
                                                          • 17701

                                                          #29
                                                          you're focusing too much on the wrong part people. Stockbrokers can't give inside info! Get it? It's illegal & they go to prison and so do the people they give it too. If a tout has inside info, it's just info, good info to have & not illegal. You all are reading way too much into that, DAMN!

                                                          And yes, the best touts do have inside info. The biz has got lazy just like everything else. Nobody is willing to take the time to groom towelboys anymore, train them on what to listen for. Cheerleaders are good too. Great source of info is bartenders around a college town. ESPN doesn't know if the star running back or the QB got laid last night, or had too much jaeger, or if his parents just filed for divorce, or found out 2 days ago his GF is fukin the lacrosse team, or has an injury that hurtin like hell but he's playin through it but could go out any minute. But a REAL tout knows these things because he's not lazy & has contacts.
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                                                          • THE PROFIT
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 11-27-09
                                                            • 17701

                                                            #30
                                                            I was a cog in the wheel of the business, it's 110% legal, end of subject. It's the same as you asking me if I think the sun will come up in the morning. As long as I have a license to sell & pay taxes on it you can give me money for my educated opinion on that. 99.9% of the people have enough confidence in their ability to determine if the sun will indeed come up so no one will pay for that. About 30% of people have confidence to pick a winner, & they will pay for that opinion! Usually way too much to an idiot, but they pay!
                                                            A preacher doesn't know any more than you what the hell happens when you die! But there are hundreds of thousands of them making a good living off people giving them money for their opinion! And those ****suckers don't pay taxes! So you tell me what's legal & what's right!!!
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                                                            • Mr. Peepers
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-22-09
                                                              • 1425

                                                              #31
                                                              as legal as masturbating on a airplane...
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                                                              • THE PROFIT
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 11-27-09
                                                                • 17701

                                                                #32
                                                                is that legal?
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                                                                • diamondhandicap
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 03-05-10
                                                                  • 3

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I would say so. I created one. Strictly dedicated to baseball. Just opening this year. I built the site, and give out free picks. Have blogs and podcast too. Should be fun. All documented, no BS.
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                                                                  • Tsoprano
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 04-14-08
                                                                    • 26374

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by diamondhandicap
                                                                    I would say so. I created one. Strictly dedicated to baseball. Just opening this year. I built the site, and give out free picks. Have blogs and podcast too. Should be fun. All documented, no BS.
                                                                    ^^

                                                                    SHOUT when you see a TOUT!

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                                                                    • bigboyfosho
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 02-19-09
                                                                      • 1576

                                                                      #35
                                                                      SHOUT when you see a bookie!
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