SBRJohn- We need more contests you cheap ass

[raiders72002]

Taco- You're the reason why an IQ test should be given in order to determine if a person should be able to post or vote.

[tacomax]

No update on the BoS situation then, shill-boy?

[imgv94]

Dan, I may be mistaken but didn't someone start this exact same idea at the RX in 2002 and then brought it to OGD in 2004?


I'll play Mudcat and brag. When I use to post at the RX I won the overall NCAA football year long tracking and 2nd in baseball when therecordkeeper use to track the cappers at the RX. Also had a 53-29 NFL record but no one officially tracked it.

Now that I'm done bragging you really do need some bookies to join in. At the RX we had Dime, DickyW and Judge. The info from these guys can be more valuable then the cappers.

http://forum.sbrforum.com/private-zone/10108-i-just-broke-my-bed.html?highlight=bed

[SBR_John]

I still like you Raiders but guys like you have to be watched. I was not taking a shot at you on purpose. Whatever that scam was where you were trying to get paid before the players of a broke book you put them into. Dont make me look it up. But that's an example of what we will not allow.

If you want to say Im an ass for not having more contests, thats fair game. If you want to say I went to a superbowl party in panama while a book there was going under, great. But if you try to recruit players to a scam or try to mislead players claiming BoS is safe then we have to do something to protect the other posters.

[tacomax]

Whatever that scam was where you were trying to get paid before the players of a broke book you put them into. Dont make me look it up.

I'll save you the trouble, John

Odds of -10,000 (max bet $10) that raiders peddles his evergreen line "name ONE player that wasn't paid that came to me".

PlaytheScore, a newly established sports book operating out of Curacao, Netherland Antilles, became officially insolvent (unable to process payouts) on June 22nd 2005. The book had opened for business in February 2005. The book reached a total crew of 3 employees at its peak time in May.

The book was offering a full range of services: per head, credit nd post up. The main partner, a 6 times convicted felon, left Curacao bringing the per head and credit business away, likely to Costa Rica, leaving behind his former manager Omar Ayubi and 25 post up players.

Most of the book's post up clientele had been built by an internet tout known as "Raiders". This gentleman relentlessly touted PTS as "the eight wonder" of the gaming industry.

The tout later admitted that he had been aware of the status of financial distress for at least two weeks prior to PTS becoming officially insolvent on June 22nd. He also admitted his vested interest in the operation and his attempts to be first in line to collect his own earnings from the failed operation.

TOW has been busy organizing "relief" for players affected by this scam operation. Despite the ongoing boycott attempts 6 players have accessed a relief program generously offered by Olympic Sports (rating 10+). 2 players (smaller balances) have been paid in full thanks to the generosity of a credit player who made funds he owed to failed PTS available for distribution to stiffed players. TOW is currently in touch with other top notch sports books to arrange relief programs on behalf of remaining players who filed a slow pay complaint with our site.

I have 14 players who have filed a slow pay / no pay complaint against PlaytheScore, the book that Raiders touted like the Virgin Mary of Offshore....

The book is currently insolvent.

Raiders, by his own admission, omitted to mention the mounting about the mounting slow pays in order to get paid first by PTS.

A few days ago, while players were entering their third week of slow/no pay he had the guts to start a thread at OGD titled "PTS denies all allegations"

In that thread I exposed his attempt to get paid by PTS before the players he referred into the book.

These are the facts.

I will never condone death wishes against anyone, but some players may indeed have a legitimate beef with raiders.

[raiders72002]

Taco- You didn't pass the IQ test, now go away. EVERYONE got paid from PTS.

to a scam or try to mislead players claiming BoS is safe then we have to do something to protect the other posters.

John- I never tried to lure players to a book that I knew was going under.

Books go under and unfortunately I backed a book that went under. I did do everything in my power to get players paid even though I had guys like Roberto undermining my efforts.

[bigboydan]

Oh man... So much for this thread now.

[bigboydan]

Taco- You didn't pass the IQ test, now go away. EVERYONE got paid from PTS.

John- I never tried to lure players to a book that I knew was going under.

Books go under and unfortunately I backed a book that went under. I did do everything in my power to get players paid even though I had guys like Roberto undermining my efforts.

Raiders, I'm really not trying to stir up shit here at all and you know it. However, I do recall I had to help Baus out with his bailout over that mess, because you couldn't/wouldn't find him a bailout. Hell, that wasn't even in my job description either, but I went out of my way to help him out.

[SBR_John]

Its water under the bridge.

The bottomline here is we allow a lot. We will not have mods decide who is a good or bad poster. The mods will remove serial trouble makers.

[bigboydan]

We will not have mods decide who is a good or bad poster. The mods will remove serial trouble makers.

You know me John... I don't ban anyone.

[jjgold]

contests are for failed bettors basically

[Zeroed]

Raiders is a well known tout and liar in the gambling forum world, even i know him and i don´t care much about that stuff.
Dont take anything he posts serious is my advice.

[BatemanPatrickl]

contests are for failed bettors basically

I am shocked and offended by this JJ. We are no longer BFF.

[raiders72002]

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Raiders is a well known tout and liar in the gambling forum world,

You shouldn't drink and post. Well known liar LMFAO. We all make mistakes on a book now and then. It's what you do afterwards that counts.

[Zeroed]

Ok sorry liar may be too much, but i have a strong dislike against tauts who lure people into books they know are not THAT good as they make them.

[jjgold]

Patty I am a professional player, it would be a downgrade to see me in a contest.

[raiders72002]

However, I do recall I had to help Baus out with his bailout over that mess, because you couldn't/wouldn't find him a bailout.

Dan- I'm sure you remember well that I posted over and over again at OGD that anyone who needs help to ask me. Baus never said a word and he posts at OGD. Everyone that asked got paid.

Baus went to TOW and TOW made him sign an agreement that he wouldn't come to me.

Long after the fact, he then came to SBR and he asked you for help.

[ShamsWoof10]

Patty

[BatemanPatrickl]

Patty I am a professional player, it would be a downgrade to see me in a contest.

Sir, you know my name is Patrick. No where is my tribute video?

[tacomax]

Patty I am a professional player, it would be a downgrade to see me in a contest.

Didn't stop you entering last year, did it?

[SBR Lou]

Thanks for that info Taco. Always thought Raider seemed a little sleazy.

[jjgold]

Didn't stop you entering last year, did it?

I quit after a few weeks, too much of a hassle

[rjt721]

I quit after a few weeks, too much of a hassle

Yes. Losing is a hassle, jj.

[SBR_John]

We all make mistakes on a book now and then. It's what you do afterwards that counts.

I can accept that.

Not to defend Raiders but a guy trying to break into this industry has to deal with 3rd rate books until he proves his worth. You can't pick up the phone and call a Pinnacle or a CRIS, WSEX, ect., for sponsorship. They won't even take the call.

That makes entry into this business difficult. The books that will take your call are the bottom feeders.

[BatemanPatrickl]

Yes. Losing is a hassle, jj.

Good thing JJ quit. He would crush all of us!

[raiders72002]

Thanks for that info Taco. Always thought Raider seemed a little sleazy

Now this is funny coming from a guy that just tried to scam SIA out of $15k

[bigboydan]

Dan- I'm sure you remember well that I posted over and over again at OGD that anyone who needs help to ask me. Baus never said a word and he posts at OGD. Everyone that asked got paid.

Baus went to TOW and TOW made him sign an agreement that he wouldn't come to me.

Long after the fact, he then came to SBR and he asked you for help.

I recall you asking everyone over there at peeps about that, and yes... I do recall him asking Roberto for help. However, I had no clue that Roberto made him agree about him asking you. I mean that is possible to being the truth and all, but I honestly never heard that stipulation.

Anyways, I'm just glad that Baus finally got bailed out on this one is all. I would also like to add that that bailout was extremely tough one to get too due to the circumstances.

[raiders72002]

Dan- Actually that was a good job getting Baus a bailout since he's a Mudcat type and not a stranger to bailouts.

Roberto did make guys agree not to work with me. I had one of the emails forwarded to me and know for a fact that Roberto did that.

That's the reason why you can take with a grain of salt those quotes that taco posts.

Roberto was trying to get a piece of the pie like he did with PanAM.

[tacomax]

Roberto did make guys agree not to work with me. I had one of the emails forwarded to me and know for a fact that Roberto did that.

Why are you changing the story now? Why didn't you say this before. Smells like BS to me.

Baus asked you for help and you said he was too late. Do you want me to embarrass you further by posting the details?

I can't help a guy like Baus that comes to me 6 months later when I've posted 20 times if you need help to contact me.

Hmmm. No mention of TOW there in your reasoning. Funny how any mention of PTS and all of your past scams really appears to hit a nerve. Anyway, back to the ocean, bottom feeder.

[raiders72002]

Taco- You're a real asshole. I could give you all of Baus' background too but I'm not going to post it. I can tell you about guys on this board that I helped but I'm not going to post that either. I don't give a shit what you post. I know what happened.

[tacomax]

I know what happened.

I'm sure that in your little mind, you actually believe what you say is the truth - I'm not denying that, but I'm sure there's a medical condition for that. But you continue to live in a world where BoS really do have funds held in escrow and are going to start paying out next week, where PTS really were the 8th wonder of the world and where Omar represents your nightly masturbating material.

Isn't it about the time in the thread where you normally offer to take me on in an arm-wrestling contest?

[raiders72002]

No it's time to put up or shut up. I'll put up $1000 to $200 that Roberto made guys promise not to go to me and that he would help them.

Also, let's start putting up some cash on your other false statements. You'd be real quiet if you ever had to put up cash to back yourself.

[SBR_John]

LOL. Oh taco. Well raiders did ask for this i guess. And come to think of it he did the same thing to frog a few days back. But dont be too hard on him.

[SBR Lou]

Now this is funny coming from a guy that just tried to scam SIA out of $15k

Are you really this stupid or it's just an act? I don't have an account w/ SIA, I'm not the OP of the SIA thread, I simply responded to it in his defense until all the facts were presented by Bill.

[raiders72002]

crazy- I mixed you up. You're the guy that has the reading comprehension problem. Just because you rode the short white bus to school in the morning is no excuse.