SBRJohn- We need more contests you cheap ass

[bigboydan]

If we even went that route at all, I feel invites would have to be based upon documented season records or something like that over the long term.

[Willie Bee]

My thoughts exactly.
It should be renamed high school forum.

I apologize for that, maritime. Try to get those threads and posts moved to Private as fast as I can, but the kiddies seem to be on-line 24 hours a day and I'm not. Knew my time spent teaching 7th-graders would come in handy one day, just didn't figure it would be at a place like this that is supposed to be for more serious sports-minded adults.

Hopefully this will improve.

[imgv94]

Now you know why I feel we need a real hardcore capping type section here for the no nonsense type gamblers don't have to go through some of that sorta stuff. We could make it an invite only type setting too in order to maintain higher levels of capping.

Would you be part of that group?

[bigboydan]

Would you be part of that group?

I would if I the section came about and was asked to moderate it. However, I personally feel that Ganchrow would be the perfect selection though for such a section of this forum, that is if it ever was going to happen.

[hawk 5]

If we even went that route at all, I feel invites would have to be based upon documented season records or something like that over the long term.

Have it open to all but you get your posting priveliges taken the 2nd time your warned. Most here know without being told what would get you 86ed.

[bigboydan]

Have it open to all but you get your posting priveliges taken the 2nd time your warned. Most here know without being told what would get you 86ed.

That would be more headaches than that section should even have to endure IMO.

[hawk 5]

That would be more headaches than that section should even have to endure IMO.

Yes but have a warning like you do on the private section about hard core handicappers, we will not tolarate any abuse of this section, AND THAT MEANS NONE.

[bigboydan]

I don't feel that type of section should even have to be bothered with any type of warnings.

[durito]

One of the things that drew me here in the first place was the lack of clutter. IE you didn't have to go through tons of BS to get to some solid posts.

That's been changing in the wrong direction the last few months. Tons of new posters with 95% BS in all of their posts.

[imgv94]

Can someone name these posters who post BS?

Let's get some names here..

[tacomax]

Can someone name these posters who post BS?

Have you seen the baseball forum recently?

For clue on names concerning general BS in the forums, go to the private forum and look at the threads which have been diverted there. The "thread starter" for any such threads tends to be quite high on the BS-o-meter.

[bigboydan]

Thanks for fielding this one for me Taco. I was actually trying to find a list of names, but your post pretty much says it all really.

Way too many people fighting in the bases section these days.

[imgv94]

I guess I've done well avoiding the crap.. Don't remember reading any of that guys threads.LOL

[durito]

Can someone name these posters who post BS?

Let's get some names here..

I'm not really interested in calling out people, it doesn't really bother me, it's just annoying. I don't mind people with lots of posts, if theres something worthwhile there (ie you posting lots of plays in every sport). But, theres several guys with 1,000 posts since June that have never posted a play or anything helpful at all.

You should be able to spot em. Hopefully it doesn't spill over to football.

[tacomax]

Thanks for fielding this one for me Taco. I was actually trying to find a list of names, but your post pretty much says it all really.

No names are really needed. The way I put it leaves people to their own conclusions. Naming names is a personal preference - I don't know if you're aware, but there are are some people here who don't think I'm a respected and informative poster. Shocking, I know.

[raiders72002]

Dan, I may be mistaken but didn't someone start this exact same idea at the RX in 2002 and then brought it to OGD in 2004?


I'll play Mudcat and brag. When I use to post at the RX I won the overall NCAA football year long tracking and 2nd in baseball when therecordkeeper use to track the cappers at the RX. Also had a 53-29 NFL record but no one officially tracked it.

Now that I'm done bragging you really do need some bookies to join in. At the RX we had Dime, DickyW and Judge. The info from these guys can be more valuable then the cappers.

[raiders72002]

I just can't help myself today. My bragging is out of control. Here was another year at the RX in bases.

RAIDERS____155-163____+19.31 UNITS____+19.31units
REX FOSTER____93-93____+4.55 UNITS____+14.89units
SPACIOUS K____21-21____+2.52 UNITS_____+2.52units
OMAHAMONEY_____70-61____+1.9 UNITS______+1.9units
MASTERTX______14-14____-0.08 UNITS_____-0.08units
LOCKLINE______3-4______-1.4 UNITS_______-1.4units
SHAWNGOTTI_____65-51____-2.2 UNITS____-19.15units
MASTER L______25-36_____-3.57 UNITS____-6.36units
ELITE ONE _____3-8_____-5.49 UNITS_____-5.49units
TEKARI_______12-17_____-5.63 UNITS_____-5.63units
SSI_______260-287_____-7.19 UNITS_____+32.56units
MADCAPPER_____297-308_____-8.27 UNITS____-11units
BUCSFAN67____776-782___-14.33 UNITS___-28.46units
TRYING2WIN___252-281___-17.33 UNITS___+11.02units
2HEADMONSTER___584-514__-18.48 UNITS__+18.35units
BLACKLAB___956-1075___-28.03 UNITS___-203.18units
RPM_______80-96______-28.27 UNITS_____-27.69units
RX-MANIAC___323-330___-28.8 UNITS____-544.09units
KBMNM247_____68-91_____-30 UNITS______-42.62units
MCIRISH_____83-100____-31.35 UNITS____-31.35units
THEERODFATHER_263-257__-36.17 UNITS__-128.85units
MFG_____296-322_____-64.32 UNITS____-1068.62units
KODIAK__1096-1086__-157.14 UNITS___-12628.18units

[BrentCrude]

Beat the prick is the best one for free online!

Not to be a brown nose but no one here should complain about SBR John being a tightwad when he runs a great free no strings contest like Beat The Prick.There aren't that many freebie handicapping contests anymore so beggars shouldn't be complainers when they get a free contest as good as Beat The Prick.

[bigboydan]

Dan, I may be mistaken but didn't someone start this exact same idea at the RX in 2002 and then brought it to OGD in 2004?

All that is true Raiders, but I also remember the downfall of that particular section too. You pulled a Brooklyn Dodgers and yanked out the section out over at Peeps, and went to over to TOW with it. Then you opened your own forum with the idea after there was a mutiny.

Now with all that being said. I wouldn't want that sorta thing happening over here at all if the boys in the office decided to go with that same sorta concept over here. So needless to say it couldn't be called your so called "trademark" name of it, because I wouldn't want to go through all that stuff again like I did way back then.

[goldengoat]

more contests would be cool but the contests here are very good as is

i would be happy to see the current contests stay year after year considering the number of users we currently have (we all have a legit shot of winning)

especially considering how the US government jacked everything up recently

[Mudcat]

Now you know why I feel we need a real hardcore capping type section here for the no nonsense type gamblers don't have to go through some of that sorta stuff. We could make it an invite only type setting too in order to maintain higher levels of capping.

If you were going to do something like that, I would hope you would do the same for this main section. I would consider that much more important. If ever there was a clash of nonsense versus no-nonsense, this is the place.

Honestly though, I don't know why SBR forum can't just come up with some rules and enforce them uniformly. It would have to start with John who, I realize, doesn't empower the mods to really do anything. And then the mods themselves would probably have to be a little less concerned about being everybody's friend.

But this talk of two-tier forums seems so silly. The reason there are "misbehaved" posters is because SBR makes them so welcome. Diverting the odd thread is about as effective as hockey referees talking after a game about what a meanie so-and-so is. That's not going to fix anything. You either have to be a bit tough and call penalties or accept that this is what you get.

[ShamsWoof10]

I offered to donate (meaning free) a helmet as a prize but didn't really hear anything from anyone at SBR...

[Willie Bee]

I offered to donate (meaning free) a helmet as a prize but didn't really hear anything from anyone at SBR...

You never got my PM? I did respond to you, Shams.

[ShamsWoof10]

I recieved the one that said that was not your decision and I had to talk to a Sean... I don't know who that is of course... If you're still interested the offer still stands...

[SBR_John]

LOL Raiders is bragging because he went 155-163.

Honestly though, I don't know why SBR forum can't just come up with some rules and enforce them uniformly. It would have to start with John who, I realize, doesn't empower the mods to really do anything. And then the mods themselves would probably have to be a little less concerned about being everybody's friend.

But this talk of two-tier forums seems so silly. The reason there are "misbehaved" posters is because SBR makes them so welcome.

Yes there are some unusal types here. But once you cross the line of having mods decide who is "good" and who is "bad" then you have something worse than occasional chaos.

Sometimes good guys have bad days or some poster gets under their skin. It all plays out. Some leave many others come back. Raiders is a good example. He tried to get banned here, was disruptive and encouraged players to send money to books he knew were broke. He succeeded in getting banned. But no punishments are forever and he's allowed back. If he repeats what he did before he will be banned again. People and players need room to post what they want. Not everybody is lucky enough to be college educated or have a great job or is even as intellectually stimulating as others. They are all welcome here.

[BatemanPatrickl]

I say same rules should apply to all posters.

[raiders72002]

because I wouldn't want to go through all that stuff again like I did way back then.
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[raiders72002]

LOL Raiders is bragging because he went 155-163.

John- For a guy that runs a gambling forum you understand very little about gambling.

I was a dog player in baseball. All bets were one unit.

No wonder why you have no idea if a line is bad or not when money lines are in dispute. You don't understand the math.

[raiders72002]

Mudcat- You start more OT useless threads than any other poster, yet you cry when someone else does the same.

[raiders72002]

. He tried to get banned here, was disruptive and encouraged players to send money to books he knew were broke.

John- Stop the bullshit. How many times do I have to tell you that no one ever got stiffed that came to me for help or signed up through my website.

Those are the facts no matter how you try to twist and spin it.

How much did you make off Pan AM? You were there partying with them at the Super Bowl while players were stiffed hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Then when other forum owners asked you to help out, you said that you were too busy.

[SBR_John]

You were backing BoS in a dispute we were handling raiders. They ripped that player off and you were their PR boy. Thats for starters. The reason more people were not ripped off by your scam buddies is because they were warned on here. And all those books you were touting went under. BTW, i go to panama every year for the superbowl.

[raiders72002]

ou were backing BoS in a dispute we were handling raiders.

That's because you couldn't understand the difference between a good line and bad line.

In the Pinnacle Pulse a few weeks later Pinnacle posted an article saying that a line that's off by 9% of the consensus is a bad line.

That line was off by more than 9%.

[imgv94]

Honestly though, I don't know why SBR forum can't just come up with some rules and enforce them uniformly. It would have to start with John who, I realize, doesn't empower the mods to really do anything. And then the mods themselves would probably have to be a little less concerned about being everybody's friend.

But this talk of two-tier forums seems so silly. The reason there are "misbehaved" posters is because SBR makes them so welcome. Diverting the odd thread is about as effective as hockey referees talking after a game about what a meanie so-and-so is. That's not going to fix anything. You either have to be a bit tough and call penalties or accept that this is what you get.

If this place had a bunch of posters like you it would be dead.

[tacomax]

That's because you couldn't understand the difference between a good line and bad line.

No, you were doing that because you were their resident shill, there's no getting away from that. Remember all those BS posts you made last year saying how all the customer money was in escrow and how they were going to start paying "next week". Funny how, once you had proven yourself to be a liar, you "retired" from "the industry" shortly afterwards.

[raiders72002]

If this place had a bunch of posters like you it would be dead.

agree 100%