Should SBR allow a points black market?

[SBR_John]

I see a lot of guys calling guys stiffs. Was/is it a good idea to allow a market for points to flourish?

[pitman]

it was a good idea

[kato]

mirrors life.

there will always be white hats and black hats.

[StraitShooter]

tremendous idea..brings out certain posters true colors ..after a little while longer guys will be tired of getting screwed and not lend to certain criterias

[Dunder]

I am not even sure that point loans and bets should be considered as a "black market".

As far as I an see the people who have been asking for stiffs to be penalized are not even involved. Mexican Stallion and myself offer services in the points forum, don´t cheat anyone and don´t complain when things go wrong. I don´t see what the problem is.

[minet123]

At first i thought it was crazy to allow it but it does mirror life in the underground sports wagering world

[podunk]

can't stand stiffs

[tltaylor89]

Point Stiffs should be banned from all SBR promotions and have milestone bonuses confiscated until they pay their debt

[Enogsiwon]

The fact that you wont let me sell my picks for points has the King very upset..

you are becoming a dictator,...

Am thinking of leading a revolt!!

[compaqDikk]

getting an A+ credit rating can be deceiving. i know 4 posters that took out loans, kept repaying, repayingg, like 20 loans total. they gained trust then BAM, turned sour and took out massive loan, lost and completely abandoned sbr account

this is like ebay. i spent 4 years building up 100%, 893 postive feedback. i then sold a lot of 300 memory foam filled fake signature by brett favre for $13,000 and sent the buyer an empty box and then abandoeded my paypal and ebay account.

[StraitShooter]

getting an A+ credit rating can be deceiving. i know 4 posters that took out loans, kept repaying, repayingg, like 20 loans total. they gained trust then BAM, turned sour and took out massive loan, lost and completely abandoned sbr account

this is like ebay. i spent 4 years building up 100%, 893 postive feedback. i then sold a lot of 300 memory foam filled fake signature by brett favre for $13,000 and sent the buyer an empty box and then abandoeded my paypal and ebay account.

[tltaylor89]

Holy shit Compak you can never go back to paypal

[compaqDikk]

Holy shit Compak you can never go back to paypal

nope. talor do you know where i can get a new idenity and open up a new account? or maybe i should send out 43,000,000 spoof emails and pray that 1/1000th of a percent is brilliant enough to click on link and bring me home to the promised land

[onthewhat]

[tltaylor89]

nope. talor do you know where i can get a new idenity and open up a new account? or maybe i should send out 43,000,000 spoof emails and pray that 1/1000th of a percent is brilliant enough to click on link and bring me home to the promised land

I opened up a new account under a different user name I sold 5 of the same Ipods but only had 1 lol.

[bigboyfosho]

great idea, ban the stiffs, simple

[harlee71]

The easy and quickest way to fix this is to drop he points!!!!!!

[harlee71]

The easy and quickest way to fix this is to drop he points!!!!!!

Give away CASH instead!

[Willie Bee]

it was a good idea

I've got to agree with pitman here. Just don't expect SBR to pull your ass out of a 'black market' hole

[MexicanStallion]

I think it was a good idea. The reason I started a points book was to clean up the Ijust2bepaid scandal. At the time there was nothing to do with the points other than build them up and wait to see the store and book. For the most part it went pretty well. As far as loans go I like helping posters out. I was lucky enough to build up so many points so I can share. If someone wants to enter a contest, short on buying something, or wants a few points to play with then I like helping if possible. For the most part loans have gone well too. There will always be a few though who ruin a good thing.

[20Four7]

A real gambler never stiffs, all the guys who stiff are wannabe's...... I've never ever ever stiffed anyone and I was the first to post up with you on the jets bet. If they had of won I would have expected to be paid......

There's a reason I don't loan points or make to many wagers except with people I trust.

[pavyracer]

bad idea to operate black market without means to retrieve points from deadbeats and lowlifes when you can't hire private security because the police is corrupted

[SBR_John]

I agree it's very much like real life. Lender/creditor beware.

[odusmykal]

Great idea.. But like StraitShooter said, you'll see some posters true colors.. Points have def exposed some bums for what they are..

[ZetaPsi808]

posters just need to be warned and reminded:

dont lend points to anyone!

[Ced's shadow]

The fact that you wont let me sell my picks for points has the King very upset..

you are becoming a dictator,...

Am thinking of leading a revolt!!

Sorry, had to lauch at that... yes SBR_John, it was a very good idea, it just mirrors life in that there will always be a cheater around

[Shortstop]

I believe that the actions of the point stiffs here are a direct correlation to how they are in real life.

They are probably very immature, very selfish and very lonely people. In a way, I feel sorry for them.

[Ced's shadow]

Very well said Shorty

[Shortstop]

Very well said Shorty

Thanks Ced.

[SBR_John]

posters just need to be warned and reminded:

dont lend points to anyone!

[Boner_18]

It is great idea. Someone could write a serious economics paper or perform loads of studies on it. It's like a virgin economy that sprang up over night. Fascinating.

[JohnAnthony]

I am one of those who used to "bitch" about it, as someone defined it. Until I got a warning. Apparently, a stiff is allowed to insult other members, but a member may not say to a stiff he is one.

Yet...

It is great idea. Someone could write a serious economics paper or perform loads of studies on it. It's like a virgin economy that sprang up over night. Fascinating.

I completely agree with this. I am now over my stiffs, and doing my best to get the 600 pt repayed to the generous yisman in time despite these.

SBR will never ban the black market.

[craig4nr]

Great idea as long as lenders know that SBR won't bail them out if things don't go their way. The people here that are involved seem to know the risks they are taking.

[Dark Horse]

I've got to agree with pitman here. Just don't expect SBR to pull your ass out of a 'black market' hole

It would require extremely little effort to keep everybody honest. And once the message would be out, stiffing would be history.

Nice smiley, amigo.

[Grux]

Why don't we start a thread (Sticky) where we can submit a member who is a stiff. Then when someone wants to loan some points they can check the thread to see if the poster is trustworthy.