11th graders causing Arab-American controversy in Detroit...

[Deuce]

They made this sweatshirt thinking they were clever. Resemble something? What a fukkin disgrace. FBI now involved, this isn't even clever or funny.

[Chi_archie]

need more story behind it....


Paco's nephews?

[Chi_archie]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/01/05/2010-01-05_michigan_students_in_trouble_for_wearing_911_sweatshirts.html

wow half the school is arab

[paco]

Gotta give it to them, that is genius

[Deuce]

need more story behind it.... Paco's nephews?

Students, officials clash over shirt

School: 9/11 wear was a mistake

BY ERIC D. LAWRENCE
FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER

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A group of Arab-American students in the class of 2011 at Dearborn's Edsel Ford High told school officials they were showing pride in their class with their choice of sweatshirts Monday.








But school officials disagreed, confiscating the sweatshirts and scheduling meetings with the students and their parents because the images on the sweatshirts referenced the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the World Trade Center. Along with the words, "You can't bring us down," the sweatshirts featured the No. 11 as the twin towers with windows included on each digit. The school's mascot, a thunderbird, was flying nearby.
"The whole design gave prominence to the 9/11 tragedy, and of course was very upsetting to staff and students," said an e-mail message sent Monday and Tuesday from the district to local groups and individuals. A similar e-mail message explaining the situation was sent to parents and staff Monday.
School officials said the students didn't realize the sweatshirts would be perceived negatively and would not be punished.
An estimated 300 people attended a public meeting on the topic Tuesday evening at Salina Intermediate School. Superintendent Brian Whiston and Edsel Ford High Principal Hassane Jaafar were among those who addressed the predominantly Arab-American crowd during the 20-minute meeting.


Schools spokesman David Mustonen said the students complied when they were asked to remove the sweatshirts, which they had made at Gibraltar Trade Center for $25 apiece over holiday break.
"Kids not thinking, not realizing the consequences of something they thought was pretty innocent," Mustonen said. "Their thought was, 'You can't bring us down. We're the class of 2011.' "
Jennifer Browne, president of the Edsel Ford Parent Teacher Student Association, said she believes the students were simply trying to promote their class. "It's unfortunate that it came across badly," she said.
Michael Steinberg, legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan, praised the decision by school officials not to punish the students.
Staff writer Zlati Meyer contributed to this report.

[Deuce]

Gotta give it to them, that is genius

Not even funny bro. Nothing about it is. Jerkoffs being ignorant. Your religion wants equality but then this happens. Makes no sense. I know a lot of muslims are good bros but shit like this doesn't help.

[Deuce]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...eatshirts.html wow half the school is arab

Largest congregation of Arabs outside of the middle east.

[paco]

DEuce, it was not meant to be offensive. It was meant to be supportive and is saying "u can't hold us down" meaning that America will prevail. On another note, what happened to freedom of press?

[Deuce]

DEuce, it was not meant to be offensive. It was meant to be supportive and is saying "u can't hold us down" meaning that America will prevail. On another note, what happened to freedom of press?

Why are there windows in the 11's? Why do you need to make a 9/11 reference to prove your point? I have heard some bad things about that school. I have heard from Arab Americans that kids in that school might as well go back home. They are referred to as boaters and cause a scene during the national anthem and refuse to take their hats off. They are known for saying "Happy 9/11 Day" on 9/11. It's disgusting, if you don't wanna be here no one is holding you back, oh wait yes, one thing, the American dollars is.

That being said, I would never go to Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Yemen, Kuwait, etc. and disrespect their countries traditions. It's pathetic.

[mmike032]

tasteless but clever

[ShamsWoof10]

Not even funny bro. Nothing about it is. Jerkoffs being ignorant. Your religion wants equality but then this happens. Makes no sense. I know a lot of muslims are good bros but shit like this doesn't help.

Largest congregation of Arabs outside of the middle east.

Does anything STAND OUT in these two statements to anyone..? I am not giving any hints but it's a correlation that is not as correlated as most think...

[Dad]

The students should be allowed to wear the sweatshirts.

But, other students should be allowed to punch any student wearing these sweatshirts in the mouth.

[gimme2dollars]

I've worked in Dearborn,MI before, and most business signs are in arabic also. Don't like it myself, but whatever. By the way, minors do not have rights like adults do. They do not have freedom of the press.

[ACoochy]

"You can't bring us down"....The school cant be that bad as at least they teached the kids correct grammar (even remembered the apostrophe) Very clever but not the best way to convey their message i will agree.....

[ACoochy]

Not even funny bro. Nothing about it is. Jerkoffs being ignorant. Your religion wants equality but then this happens. Makes no sense. I know a lot of muslims are good bros but shit like this doesn't help.

Deuce, what makes you think that equality exists within religion (or anything that has a self/group driven agenda) to begin with??

[paco]

If that writer from the uk or somewhere was allowed to draw a cartoon of our prophet as a terrorist, then these kids should be able to wear these shirts .

[Chi_archie]

good point Paco....

we should have equivalency in actions between media and media outlets and high school students' behaviors.

I was just looking at a magazine today, it had a topless girl in it. I think if she can go topless in a magazine, a high school girl should be able to go topless in trigonometry class

[Carseller4]

If that writer from the uk or somewhere was allowed to draw a cartoon of our prophet as a terrorist, then these kids should be able to wear these shirts .

I have that same cartoon on the bottom of my sneakers!

[DwightShrute]

The students should be allowed to wear the sweatshirts.

But, other students should be allowed to punch any student wearing these sweatshirts in the mouth.

I agree Deuce, Tasteless beyond words.

[statnerds]

First 911 call over McNuggets

oops, wrong thread, sorry, hit reply instead of new thread

but while i am here

Liberals consider republicans a bigger threat to America than these little jihadists in training, gun toting pyschos screaming allah akbar and killing soldiers at Fort Hood and of course Fruit of Kaboom bombers....all of them worse than republicans.

surprise, Obama is weak on defense...didn't see that coming

[Dad]

I agree Deuce, Tasteless beyond words.

You mean Dad.

[DwightShrute]

I wonder what would happen is a few students made shirts like ....



Just as tastelsss

[statnerds]

If that writer from the uk or somewhere was allowed to draw a cartoon of our prophet as a terrorist, then these kids should be able to wear these shirts .

damn right...

i mean if he wanted to be accurate he could have drawn your prophet stoning a 13 yr old mentally retarded girl for being raped by her uncle, but islam means she was at fault...

or he could have depicted him flying planes into buildings, blowing up planes over Lockerbie, Scotland, killing Israeli athletes at the Olympics, bombing the U S S Cole, kidnapping Americans and holding them 444 days, cutting off the heads of Pearl or Berg, shooting people at Fort Hood or wearing explosive underwear to blow up a plane.

man, i don't know where people get this idea islam isn't the religion of peace...

[Deuce]

damn right... i mean if he wanted to be accurate he could have drawn your prophet stoning a 13 yr old mentally retarded girl for being raped by her uncle, but islam means she was at fault... or he could have depicted him flying planes into buildings, blowing up planes over Lockerbie, Scotland, killing Israeli athletes at the Olympics, bombing the U S S Cole, kidnapping Americans and holding them 444 days, cutting off the heads of Pearl or Berg, shooting people at Fort Hood or wearing explosive underwear to blow up a plane. man, i don't know where people get this idea islam isn't the religion of peace...

You forgot Subways in London and parking garages in NYC.

[paco]

I want one of those shirts

[Willie Bee]

If that writer from the uk or somewhere was allowed to draw a cartoon of our prophet as a terrorist, then these kids should be able to wear these shirts .

Hmmm, so all laws in the UK should apply here? Why not all laws here apply to the UK? That way British schoolchildren could be taught about the Holocaust.

[JsmooveFTW]

I just wonder how many stupid gay ignorant fukks took offense to this, BUT vote dem or republican and put a dot next to McCain or Obama. Not to mention next to senators like Lieberman and Reid. There wasn't enough outrage from the people to lash out against the government for their treasonous 9/11 report, but take offense to this? This country is so retarded.

[Preston09]

Yup

[DwightShrute]

nothing wrong with being offended with something. personal choice and it's not an either or issue.

Taste is personal. Taking offense to something has different levels. If some guy wants to pick his nose at the office or in class, I might be offended but not a lot. If he then starts to eat his boogers, I might get grossed out but still won't get so offended that it will effect my life. If the guy starts jerking off, ya my offended level might increase to the point that I will go over and tell him to stop.

It's the same with offensive shirts.

[topgame85]

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[JsmooveFTW]

It's making more of a joke of the ignorant pussies in this country (from the backlash/hate and such) than anything. Quit being the government's puppet and acknowledge who the real enemy is.

[ShamsWoof10]

For all the people bothered by the shirts ....GET A LIFE..or at least take a better look around you and you'll realize there are far more serious things to worry about then these kids and their shirts...

[Deuce]

For all the people bothered by the shirts ....GET A LIFE..or at least take a better look around you and you'll realize there are far more serious things to worry about then these kids and their shirts...

You're right, their ignorant parents for allowing it.

[DrStale]

It's an minor error in judgment. Kids are stupid. Move on.

[Dunder]

If that writer from the uk or somewhere was allowed to draw a cartoon of our prophet as a terrorist, then these kids should be able to wear these shirts .

I agree (the cartoonist was from Denmark btw).

IIRC, however that incident brought Islamic Fundamentalists out on to the streets in huge numbers, claiming that their view (and that of Sharia Law) regarding blasphemy should override the national laws concerning freedom of speech in European countries.

Where do you stand on that Paco?