SERIOUS QUESTION FOR all GAMBLERS/BLACKJACK PLAYERS

[nobs]

Why do people complain about the NFL or NBA being fixed. If it is, the "fix" is just as likely to help you as hurt you.

Why do people complain about a bad beat, you are just as likely to get a break that gives you an undeserved win as a bad break that costs you a win.

Because its just natural that we will forget about the good break wins, but it isnt so easy to forget about the bad break loses.

[nobs]

Where do you get better than a 0.45% house edge ?

[Dunder]

Why do people complain about the NFL or NBA being fixed. If it is, the "fix" is just as likely to help you as hurt you.

Why do people complain about a bad beat, you are just as likely to get a break that gives you an undeserved win as a bad break that costs you a win.

Because its just natural that we will forget about the good break wins, but it isnt so easy to forget about the bad break loses.

Very true.

[nobs]

Yeah, I know it doesnt change my EV at all, but if his stupid play had cost me $300 it would have taken me a while to forget that. Its my own mistake though for betting more than my general $10-$15 per hand bet.

[Dunder]

Where do you get better than a 0.45% house edge ?

You can´t. That is the house edge based on perfect strategy for single deck BJ based on the most player friendly splitting/doubling rules.

It is around 1.0% for six deck BJ.

The only way to have an edge is by counting cards (which I can do) without being detected (which I am quite sure I cannot).

[Jasonal_98]

I used to play at a site that would allow players to be the dealer, with the house taking a percentage of your winnings. You would be shocked to see what idiots actually do. I saw a player split 6's against a dealer (me) 10 on a $75 hand.

I am a very low stakes real casino player. You see really stupid things playing at $5 tables in Vegas. You just have to have the mettle to play your own game.

[pokernut9999]

Why do you think casinos give away free drinks

[nobs]

I saw a player split 6's against a dealer (me) 10 on a $75 hand.

Holy shit. Now that is stupid.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I consistently win at Blackjack. I consistently count cards. If you can't count cards then you can't win consistently. I also don't play by the book, I play by my head, feeling how the cards are running. I will hit a 13 facing a dealer's 6 if there's a high probability of low cards in the deck. I have split 10's versus dealers 6 and it's a good percentage if there's a lot of high cards in the deck. If you strictly play by the book, you will eventually lose. The longer you stay, the more you will pay. In Blackjack you have to get in, get on then get out with your profit.

and yes, the cards are the cards, my cards don't affect your cards in the long run. No need to get pissed over what others do or don't do. The one good way to not feel affected by others is to take first base. Let the poor players play after you.

Here's another tip... Stay on 16 versus dealers 10 and Ace. Hit 16 versus dealers 7, 8, and 9. I have empirical data that you will win a bit more in the long run. No card in Vegas will tell you that but the real odds are in your favor above.

In addition, I've gotten more pussy in casino's to make your head spin. I've turned down my share because I was on epic runs as well. My best story is this. I was staying at the Sahara in a HUGE suite (2 bedrooms separated by living room and bar area). My buddy was in one of the rooms and I took the other and you can partition it off. This was right after they started their $1 BJ table BS. There were tons of woman that would come in to play $1 BJ. I was a big baller playing hundred dollar hands while the table betting $1. I'm at the table one evening when 2 fine ass girls sit down to play. One blonde and one brunette both with banging bodies and about 21/22 yrs old. They just moved to Vegas and didn't have any friends. I was talking shit to them and making them laugh all evening. I had so much clout back in those days that I even had the bartender give me a bottle of Absolute for me and the girls.

I finally said to both of them... "you both are fine and I'm going to take both of you back to my suite to have fun but my buddy is there too but he can join in". They were like, what do you mean? I said, I mean ya'll come back with me and my buddy. They were like, "we don't even know your buddy, how you going to have us hooking up with someone we don't know"? I said, "well I can probably handle both of you but I may need help just in case". They were like... OK! So I got my buddy hooked up for some incredible pussy.

I take them back to the suite and guess what?? My buddy has locked the door to his room and he is sleeping hard as hell. I'm knocking like a mad man with 2 superstars and this guy is knocked out. I'm like oh well. The girls then say to me... "what do you want to see first? Our luscious lickety split or our lesbian love dance?"... I was like, uggghhh, let me see that love dance. These girls proceeded to fuk, suk, stroke, poke, jerk, etc. the entire night. The next day my buddy comes in the room after they left and was like, "I heard you in the room fuking somebody, you got lucky huh?"... I say to him, Yeah but your ass got unlucky. I had pussy on a platter but your ass was sleep.

True story... No shit.

[Sam Odom]

Here's another tip... Stay on 16 versus dealers 10 and Ace.

If you would have said a three card or more 16 , single deck , no count , then you would be correct

[frostno98]

In addition, I've gotten more pussy in casino's to make your head spin.

What does this have to do with winning in Blackjack

I gotta agree you though, playing BJ next to some fine ass girls is probably the easiest way to generate conversation. Especially when your both hitting, and busting the Dealer.

[Mac4Lyfe]

What does this have to do with winning in Blackjack

I gotta agree you though, playing BJ next to some fine ass girls is probably the easiest way to generate conversation. Especially when your both hitting, and busting the Dealer.

It has everything to do with Blackjack because winning at Blackjack is all about attitude. You have to have a winning mentality. You have to be positive, you have to feel like you are invincible. I never met a winner that didn't expect to win. You have to go in with your balls hanging, no fear. It's all about game. I've had epic runs while talking shit, chasing tail.

[Mac4Lyfe]

If you would have said a three card or more 16 , single deck , no count , then you would be correct

Yep, but even with a shoe...

[wtf]

mac, great story and i TOTALLY agree with your strategy, hit hard and run and go with the flow of the cards

if you play by their rules you will lose

one time though i did get furious

dealer has a six, i got two eights

so i split the fukers, i am first btw

she proceeds to give me about three more 8's

so now i am playing five hands

get a couple two and a three and doubled them

i ended up with two 20's and 21 and couple shitty hands

NOW the fun really begins

the japanese fuk face sitting at third base has 16, hard

YOU KNOW WHAT HE DOES

he takes the ten

dealer has 16 , you know what she gets, thats right the 5

i start yelling at the retard, he has no idea what is going on, he just does not get it

got up and left

[fixxer]

hit hard and run...yes

[nobs]

Stupid, I went back last night and lost $125 playing $10 hands.

[nobs]

WTF,

I totally agree. Of course, in the long run the stupid players dont affect your EV, but noone is going to convince me that if they had big dollars on the table and lose that hand because of some idiots dumbass play they wont be pissed.

In the long run EV is the same, but during that hand, all I care about is that hand. If I had split into 5 hands and had some double down then I lose because of someone stupid play like that, I am going to be pissed. Im not going to say " well, he could have just as easily taken her 5, and left her the 10".

[nobs]

Yeah WTF that is really what got to me yesterday too. Not so much that he hit, but I kept saying "dude, she was showing a 6 " and it was obvious he didnt even know WTF that had to do with anything.

[MrX]

How come no one ever comes on here to thank the idoit at 3rd base when they pull the 5, giving the 10 to the dealer and saving the whole table.

It happens with the same frequency, but I've seen 50 of these threads and I've yet to see one of the other.

[floridagolfer]

When I see people making stupid decisions at the blackjack table (and the premise in the original post qualifies as such), I will always say something if I can before the dealer actually pulls the next card. I'll say with some conviction, "Wait a minute!" or "Hold on," something to make the dealer hesitate.

And if the player insists on taking a card even after the proper rationale has been explained to him, I'm outta there as soon as that hand is over.

[BurtRapp]

I'm a jumper. First bad play I leave the table. No excuse on not playing basic strategy. I'll tell the player Phuck you and thats why he is a losing player.

[ClimbSomeRocks]

OK Burt,

Why is it that 30% of the players at any table I am at will always hit in this spot and when I say anything questioning it they look at me like I am nuts.

My god could there be a more obvious decision, but I swear to god no matter what table I am playing at there is always 1 or 2 jackasses who will hit this.

Today, I bet $75 which is a big bet for me on one hand, and I am dealt 2 and then 9 for 11, the dealer turns up a 6, so right away I know I am doubling this down. I am feeling very natious (sp) already because $150 is a real big bet for me, but 11 against a 6 has to double down.

So I am at third base and the guy playing the spot right before me has 13 so I assume he stands. The ****er HITS and Draws a JACK BUST with 23. I usually dont say shit out loud but I am like **** dude that was my jack and she is showing a 6. I couldnt believe it.

The guy says "sorry dude, but I gotta play my hand ". I am like she is showing a 6 dude, and is was obvious he didnt even understand what I was saying. So I almost didnt doube, but I double and catch a king for 21 anyway. Then the dealer flips over an 8 and draws a 5 for 19.

So the guy before me fuked the whole table but not me. Then he says again, "I gotta play my hand, dude" and I am like dude, I shouldnt say anything cause its your money but she was showing a 6. The amazing thing is that I said "she was showing a 6" 3 or 4 times, and that didnt mean shit to him. Even afterwards he didnt understand the significance of her showing a 6.

Funny thing is that this happens all too often. I mean how the fuk can 30% of the people playing blackjack not understand something so simple that I would expect a junior high kid to understand.

I little food of thought for you since I play blackjack often and consider myself in the top 1% who play. In that situation, the player before you did hurt the other players at the table. However, in the long run, read that again, IN THE LONG RUN, other players moves will even out because they will help you as much as they hurt you. Contrary to popular belief, there is no sacred flow of cards, the only thing he changed by hitting was taking 1 more ten valued card out of the deck, which would drop the count by 1.

The thing is, you will always remember more times they screw you over then help you. If you play poker think of this, how many times do you remember losing with pocket Aces or pocket kings? How many times do you remember winning with them? It's selective memory and that is why people get so frustrated, most of the time you won't even notice when someone makes an incorrect play and it saves you.

I mentioned something above about the Long Run. There is no set amount of hands or hours played to reach this 'long run', but the odds will eventually prevail. Blackjack is the only casino game with history (start with 6decks or however many there are, and after a hand, the game is not reset, but instead the cards will be missing from the original cards in the shoe). If you can learn to track these cards, by card counting, you can shift the advantage of blackjack from the house to the player.

another thing to note about blackjack. You need a friggin massive bankroll to succeed. If you are counting cards, spreading your bets at 1 kelly, you should have 100 maximum bets. You also need to spread 1-10 or greater in a 6deck game to beat the house advantage. So if your minimum bet is $5, your max bet in a 6deck game needs to be at least $50. this means that you need to have $5000 as a bankroll when placing $5 bets!!

any other questions feel free to ask me- I use the Knockout blackjack counting sytem and it works wonders. I actually just got back from the casino and bought in for 80, and turned it into 245 in under an hour

[yancey72]

boy reading your post here i can see that most if not all bj "players"are regular joes as you say.to say that "i count"and "cannot be dectected"only shows how stupid some people really are the only real way to beat the house is to not play.come on guys do you not think if you keep up with every dollar won and lost each and every time you set foot inside a casino that over all your a loser.ok you do have the 1 or 2 people that do "win"but if everybody "won"there would b no casinos anywhere

[BrianLaverty]

I follow the blackjack basic strategy card perfectly... never go against it.... I just go with the flow.


but ive always wondered... whats the reasoning for not splitting 10s? You're never supposed to split 10s... but whats the mathematical reasoning to it?

[zagat]

i always go by the "don't beat yourself, let the house beat you" motto. in other words, dont dick yourself over and get delt the face card that would bust the house!

[blueghost]

if you follow this your sure to lose..always STANDunless at SBR casino

[taravat76]

stand, always